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Location: flatlands | ozcancrasher13 - 2014-04-29 1:24 PM Ashley Gustafson - 2014-04-29 1:14 PM rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:03 PM LabRat - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM Not happy with the producers who chose not to postpone. "The show must go on" attitude is quite irresponsible. But ultimately it's the competitor's decision to enter or not. And if several are choosing to turn-out, why wouldn't the producers decide to postpone and possibly have a better turnout later in the year? Doesn't make sense to me. Last time this was going around, I was told (and I can't say how reliable that information is) that KS NBHA was going to be stuck paying for the facility that weekend even if no horses showed up. (I looked at results from 2011 online today and there were probably 40 of the nearly 300 entered who scratched and stayed home) It was a bad deal and I didn't envy the state director at all having to make that decision. She was pretty much in a no-win situation, like she will be this year again. Fees were due April 11th, so everyone who entered & then went to Lincoln probably dropped the check in the mail on their way out the driveway like I did, and now we're all going to have to make decisions about whether we go or not after the money is spent. I guess to the facility owners it's tough also however I would feel that allowing a reschedule for maybe one or 2 events during affected times/areas would be less loss than multiple weeks of cancellations because of holding producers feet to the fire over the decision to cancel or go on when this kind of issue is happening and allowing the issue to perpetuate and continue on.
People were willing to let the NBHA keep the processing fee which is suppose to cover the venue cost.
They were even willing to receive a 75% refund of entry fees, but no refund was an option.
The USTRC cancelled a roping in Kansas that weekend.
I think someone sent a sign as there was a tornado and hail. The entry fees I lost was a lot less than the hail damage my rig would have gotten. 
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Location: Kansas | ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 1:24 PM Where at in Kansas was the horse that was euthanize from? I was up at the brf but in pavilion 3. I have been to two local races since then and am planning on going to a race in Logan on saturday and then am hauling 3 horses to state NBHA.
Northeast, so probably not someone you ran against in the weeks leading up to Lincoln, but I'm betting its someone I have seen at least a few times this year just because I run in northeast KS a lot. I haven't been anywhere except the vet clinic since Lincoln and I luckily did not stall up there or spend much time hanging around that stall barn. I'm entered at state but didn't buy stalls and if I go will be very anti-social as usual.
I remember the requests to refund partial entry fees to the 2011 state show, and I thought that was a good solution, particularly for those close to Colorado since it had the virus going around then.
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The horse was in Douglas County Kansas.
No one is hiding any information but the diagnoses is not official. The owners are grieving but will come foward after the State Vet has confirmed the EHV-1. |
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| Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 1:25 PM
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Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2. 
If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps.
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Location: North Central Kansas | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:33 PM
ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 1:24 PM Where at in Kansas was the horse that was euthanize from? I was up at the brf but in pavilion 3. I have been to two local races since then and am planning on going to a race in Logan on saturday and then am hauling 3 horses to state NBHA.
Northeast, so probably not someone you ran against in the weeks leading up to Lincoln, but I'm betting its someone I have seen at least a few times this year just because I run in northeast KS a lot. I haven't been anywhere except the vet clinic since Lincoln and I luckily did not stall up there or spend much time hanging around that stall barn. I'm entered at state but didn't buy stalls and if I go will be very anti-social as usual.
I remember the requests to refund partial entry fees to the 2011 state show, and I thought that was a good solution, particularly for those close to Colorado since it had the virus going around then.
It makes me worried about going to state. Especially if the horse in question was from that area. I will have to make the decision if I will go to state or not. If nothing else pops up, I will for sure go. |
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Location: Kansas | ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 1:52 PM
rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:33 PM
ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 1:24 PM Where at in Kansas was the horse that was euthanize from? I was up at the brf but in pavilion 3. I have been to two local races since then and am planning on going to a race in Logan on saturday and then am hauling 3 horses to state NBHA.
Northeast, so probably not someone you ran against in the weeks leading up to Lincoln, but I'm betting its someone I have seen at least a few times this year just because I run in northeast KS a lot. I haven't been anywhere except the vet clinic since Lincoln and I luckily did not stall up there or spend much time hanging around that stall barn. I'm entered at state but didn't buy stalls and if I go will be very anti-social as usual.
I remember the requests to refund partial entry fees to the 2011 state show, and I thought that was a good solution, particularly for those close to Colorado since it had the virus going around then.
It makes me worried about going to state. Especially if the horse in question was from that area. I will have to make the decision if I will go to state or not. If nothing else pops up, I will for sure go.
Me too. I may end up turning one of my spots out just so I don't have to haul the old man. I figure he'd be the most likely one of mine to get stressed and wind up sick. Tonight I'm going to do some digging and see if there's anything I can give to boost Cliff's immune system since I do plan on going with him. Just not sure about my second spot at this point. |
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Location: North Dakota | I am surprised Red Horse is allowing R4R to go on. When the outbreak first hit they closed their doors, cancelled up coming events, and had a no in and no out policy. |
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| On top of the Run for the Roses, Big J is having their first 3 day event in Waterloo, IA. It's co-sanctioned with NBHA and usually a very big show. I know lots of BRF horses that will be there. |
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| Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 1:57 PM
I am surprised Red Horse is allowing R4R to go on. When the outbreak first hit they closed their doors, cancelled up coming events, and had a no in and no out policy.
Yeah- the feedback I got directly from the producer was that we are out of the 7-14 day period from when BRF was held so we are fine! :-/
I don't think they have adopted the new information that the period this go around is much longer than they have ever seen in the past; which makes sense. It's the nature of the virus to continually evolve..... As it was mentioned before the weather has been crappy the last week... If it were hot and sunny it would be less concerning as the temps and sunlight have a lot to do with the longevity of it hanging around. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 1:25 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 1:08 PM Shushi - 2014-04-29 12:54 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 11:57 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 10:56 AM northerngirl - 2014-04-29 10:43 AM Timber Creek - 2014-04-29 10:36 AM Is the second horse being treated? I wasn't sure? It says the timeline is the same meaning the horse showed symptoms on 4/24? I'm not sure if I'm reading this right. On the BRF facebook page, it says the 2nd horse from KS was also put down last week. Yes. That's true. That horse was also euthanized on the 24th. The same day as Mama. Both horses were stalled in the same general area in barn 2. If it helps at all both our horses had pretty noticeable blankets. One had a red PHT with zebra squares. The other had a customized BOT blanket on. It had white/pink/black fabric stitched onto the straps.
I do remember those blankets. Was one of your horses kinda crabby and a bay if I remember right? |
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Location: NE | The Kansas State Vet has confirmed the case, that the Douglas County horse did test positive to EHV-1 |
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Location: North Dakota | Ashley Gustafson - 2014-04-29 2:13 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 1:57 PM I am surprised Red Horse is allowing R4R to go on. When the outbreak first hit they closed their doors, cancelled up coming events, and had a no in and no out policy. Yeah- the feedback I got directly from the producer was that we are out of the 7-14 day period from when BRF was held so we are fine! :-/ I don't think they have adopted the new information that the period this go around is much longer than they have ever seen in the past; which makes sense. It's the nature of the virus to continually evolve..... As it was mentioned before the weather has been crappy the last week... If it were hot and sunny it would be less concerning as the temps and sunlight have a lot to do with the longevity of it hanging around.
That info was never the protocol anyways. It was 14 days after the official positive results not from when the event was that the horse contracted it. The positive results were only 3 days ago and making it 6 days for the first day of R4R. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rockinas - 2014-04-29 2:16 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:53 PM rockinas - 2014-04-29 12:44 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-29 12:01 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-04-29 11:44 AM The Race for the Roses is going on this weekend at the Red Horse Ranch Arena. I'm paid into the slot race in poles and am going, but I'm not going to stall there overnight. I'll just pay the jump out fee. I'm really itching to make a run somewhere, but I'm not going to haul 2-3 horses and keep them there overnight like I have done in the past. I'm going to warm up, make my runs and haul back home. Besides I'm only a half hour away. I have a feeling the turnout won't be as good as usual, but maybe I'm wrong. I'm really surprised Race for the Roses hasn't been postponed. Renea Bolling caught all kinds of hell for not postponing but yet this one is close to affected area and continues on without any flack.
I am afraid I might be looking at scratching.
It's just not worth it.
Had the weather been sunny & 70 all week it'd be different.
Instead it's been in the 30s and 40s and rain/snow and that is stressful on these horses that have been used to 60/70 degree temps and now don't have a winter coat. Or at least mine don't have much hair left. 
I was only paid into the Huron double header but I agree that if anyone got sick all eyes would be on those of us at BRF. I'm tickled Lynn shredded my check and entry. I figure I'll be in the clear (hopefully) when the Spring Fling rolls around. |
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| Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 2:17 PM
Ashley Gustafson - 2014-04-29 2:13 PM Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 1:57 PM I am surprised Red Horse is allowing R4R to go on. When the outbreak first hit they closed their doors, cancelled up coming events, and had a no in and no out policy. Yeah- the feedback I got directly from the producer was that we are out of the 7-14 day period from when BRF was held so we are fine! :-/ I don't think they have adopted the new information that the period this go around is much longer than they have ever seen in the past; which makes sense. It's the nature of the virus to continually evolve..... As it was mentioned before the weather has been crappy the last week... If it were hot and sunny it would be less concerning as the temps and sunlight have a lot to do with the longevity of it hanging around.
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| This is totally off the topic of the shows but I was wondering did the age have anything to do with these horse contracting it? I am just trying to learn more about this and with the horses being 17 and 18 of age and us only hearing about 2 cases out of 700-800 horses wouldn't this make people think that it has something to do with age? Again if I am wrong and misinformed please let me know and correct me so I have correct information. |
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| EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 2:29 PM This is totally off the topic of the shows but I was wondering did the age have anything to do with these horse contracting it? I am just trying to learn more about this and with the horses being 17 and 18 of age and us only hearing about 2 cases out of 700-800 horses wouldn't this make people think that it has something to do with age? Again if I am wrong and misinformed please let me know and correct me so I have correct information.
Everything I've read says it doesn't discriminate. Age, gender, etc. |
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Location: MO | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:56 PM ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 1:52 PM rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-29 1:33 PM ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-29 1:24 PM Where at in Kansas was the horse that was euthanize from? I was up at the brf but in pavilion 3. I have been to two local races since then and am planning on going to a race in Logan on saturday and then am hauling 3 horses to state NBHA. Northeast, so probably not someone you ran against in the weeks leading up to Lincoln, but I'm betting its someone I have seen at least a few times this year just because I run in northeast KS a lot. I haven't been anywhere except the vet clinic since Lincoln and I luckily did not stall up there or spend much time hanging around that stall barn. I'm entered at state but didn't buy stalls and if I go will be very anti-social as usual.
I remember the requests to refund partial entry fees to the 2011 state show, and I thought that was a good solution, particularly for those close to Colorado since it had the virus going around then.
It makes me worried about going to state. Especially if the horse in question was from that area. I will have to make the decision if I will go to state or not. If nothing else pops up, I will for sure go. Me too. I may end up turning one of my spots out just so I don't have to haul the old man. I figure he'd be the most likely one of mine to get stressed and wind up sick. Tonight I'm going to do some digging and see if there's anything I can give to boost Cliff's immune system since I do plan on going with him. Just not sure about my second spot at this point.
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Location: North Dakota | Nateracer - 2014-04-29 2:39 PM EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 2:29 PM This is totally off the topic of the shows but I was wondering did the age have anything to do with these horse contracting it? I am just trying to learn more about this and with the horses being 17 and 18 of age and us only hearing about 2 cases out of 700-800 horses wouldn't this make people think that it has something to do with age? Again if I am wrong and misinformed please let me know and correct me so I have correct information. Everything I've read says it doesn't discriminate. Age, gender, etc.
Age may play a part if they have a suppressed immune system but I honestly don't think age is much of a deciding factor on what horse can become infected. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Now after reading more about this, I'm having second thoughts about even going near the RHR even if I haul back and forth. They had an AQHA team penning at the RHR last weekend, and the turnout was pitiful. If we end up seeing a couple more cases up here in the aftermath of that, we can kiss barrel racing goodbye until the 4th of July, once the dust has settled, if we're lucky. |
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Location: somewhere up north | Just Bring It - 2014-04-29 2:47 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-29 2:39 PM EmtRoper - 2014-04-29 2:29 PM This is totally off the topic of the shows but I was wondering did the age have anything to do with these horse contracting it? I am just trying to learn more about this and with the horses being 17 and 18 of age and us only hearing about 2 cases out of 700-800 horses wouldn't this make people think that it has something to do with age? Again if I am wrong and misinformed please let me know and correct me so I have correct information. Everything I've read says it doesn't discriminate. Age, gender, etc.
Age has nothing to do with it. I know two horses here in MN that tested positive were only 6 or 7. I think it has more to do with their immune system, stress, etc. |
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