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Location: Kansas | jd&ez - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 8:25 AM jd&ez - 2014-05-04 7:42 PM Great story but this is an aberation. Just the fact that it is a story should tell you that. Proven breeding lines and proven training methods are proven because they work. We will have the occasional outlier in this business. They for good stories because of that. If you take a look at the breeding on this horse, his dam is well bred. Just because she didnt run, doesnt mean she wont produce. And just because the stud fee wasnt 150k, doesnt mean it wasnt a good cross.
Pretty ignorant statement if you ask me....
California Chrome's background and the people who own him, train him, ride him etc., are a story because he just won the Kentucky Derby. Therefore people are interested in him and his connections. It's what journalists call a 'TIMELY' story and every journalist covering the Triple Crown is going to look for his/her own angle to make their story unique, so each story has a little bit different set of information in it. California Chrome would be a story no matter who his sire & dam were. |
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Location: /ARKANSAS | I almost choked when one of the announcers called him "cowbred" I looked at the pedigree, all I could see were some nice thoroughbreds. |
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| I like the part where when they interviewed the owner, he said people just think we're a bunch of dumb a$$e$. So they put a bucked tooth jacka$$ on the back of the silks and DAP on the jockey helmet (which stands for dumb a$$ partners) I think they're looking pretty smart now  |
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Location: NE Texas | fastwrapn3 - 2014-05-05 4:26 PM I almost choked when one of the announcers called him "cowbred" I looked at the pedigree, all I could see were some nice thoroughbreds.
CAL bred.....as in California Bred. LOL Did sound like they were saying "cow" bred sometimes though. :) |
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| Herbie - 2014-05-05 4:34 PM fastwrapn3 - 2014-05-05 4:26 PM I almost choked when one of the announcers called him "cowbred" I looked at the pedigree, all I could see were some nice thoroughbreds. CAL bred.....as in California Bred. LOL Did sound like they were saying "cow" bred sometimes though. :)
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | jd&ez - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 8:25 AM jd&ez - 2014-05-04 7:42 PM Great story but this is an aberation. Just the fact that it is a story should tell you that. Proven breeding lines and proven training methods are proven because they work. We will have the occasional outlier in this business. They for good stories because of that. If you take a look at the breeding on this horse, his dam is well bred. Just because she didnt run, doesnt mean she wont produce. And just because the stud fee wasnt 150k, doesnt mean it wasnt a good cross.
Pretty ignorant statement if you ask me....
The horse himself is the story along with how he and his connections got there.
The ignorant statement you made is saying he was an aberation
And when you post on a public forum, dont expect all people to agree with you. |
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Location: NE Texas | Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 4:52 PM jd&ez - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 8:25 AM jd&ez - 2014-05-04 7:42 PM Great story but this is an aberation. Just the fact that it is a story should tell you that. Proven breeding lines and proven training methods are proven because they work. We will have the occasional outlier in this business. They for good stories because of that. If you take a look at the breeding on this horse, his dam is well bred. Just because she didnt run, doesnt mean she wont produce. And just because the stud fee wasnt 150k, doesnt mean it wasnt a good cross.
Pretty ignorant statement if you ask me....
The ignorant statement you made is saying he was an aberation
And when you post on a public forum, dont expect all people to agree with you.
I'm with you, canchaser1.....I've watched this horse since befor ethe Santa Anita Derby and have been following this horse for more than a couple of months. In the SA, I thought he finished stronger than i'd seen any TB finish in quite a long time. Typically they look like they are about to trot at the wire, but not CC...he came aroudn the turn and sprinted home. Right then I knew he'd win the Derby if he got out. I think he's a super horse....and I don't care what his pedigree is or isn't; he's special! He's proven to me and alot of others who are dreamers that with hardwork and a fast horse with a big heart, anything is possible when given the chance.
The horse isn't poorly bred at all, he's just not by a royal stallion and out of a royal mare, which is what the owners and trainers look for in colts. Some of these that are well bred a generation or two back are never given the chance to compete. Much like my colt, he's not by a name brander or out of a name brander, but that sucker worked 220 yards in 11.7, which is pretty handy even for a horse that IS name brand. Most of the horses that are well bred a generation or two back are never given the chance to play....how many more are we missing out on? This is a special horse, a special situation, and it has inspired me to go home and work hard, believe in myself and my horse, and enjoy the ride...wherever it may take us! |
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Location: North Dakota -> Colorado | reditorun - 2014-05-05 6:55 PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUF4_FL91gk&feature=share[/quote...
I teared up a little watching them so anxiously watching CC win, I don't exactly know why it choked me up a little but it did. I am rooting for him to go all the way, but just that fact that he won the Derby and his story already makes him almost "immortalized" |
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Location: Washington | CC is letting his connections to live the dream, and to come full circle. SO important in life. Love the fact that everyone here is so into this animal. He has a hard road to go from here. He no longer lives his legacy, he is carrying those who need to see another Triple Crown. I know I am guilty...but I thank him for his past races and believing he can do it. Been a fan and will remain one reqardless.
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| TurnNBurn-3Barrels - 2014-05-05 6:20 PM
 I teared up a little watching them so anxiously watching CC win, I don't exactly know why it choked me up a little but it did. I am rooting for him to go all the way, but just that fact that he won the Derby and his story already makes him almost "immortalized"
I teared up too. It's just so unbelievable that a horse from around here could win the Kentucky Derby! You could tell they sure wanted him to win but weren't sure he was going to. I hope he goes all the way! But even if he doesn't he's been a miracle. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Herbie - 2014-05-05 5:03 PM
Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 4:52 PM jd&ez - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 8:25 AM jd&ez - 2014-05-04 7:42 PM  Great story but this is an aberation. Just the fact that it is a story should tell you that. Proven breeding lines and proven training methods are proven because they work. We will have the occasional outlier in this business. They for good stories because of that. If you take a look at the breeding on this horse, his dam is well bred. Just because she didnt run, doesnt mean she wont produce. And just because the stud fee wasnt 150k, doesnt mean it wasnt a good cross.
Pretty ignorant statement if you ask me.... Â
The ignorant statement you made is saying he was an aberation
And when you post on a public forum, dont expect all people to agree with you. Â
The horse isn't poorly bred at all, he's just not by a royal stallion and out of a royal mare, which is what the owners and trainers look for in colts.  Some of these that  are well bred a generation or two back are never given the chance to compete. Much like my colt, he's not by a name brander or out of a name brander, but that sucker worked 220 yards in 11.7, which is pretty handy even for a horse that IS name brand. Most of the horses that are well bred a generation or two back are never given the chance to play....how many more are we missing out on? This is a special horse, a special situation, and it has inspired me to go home and work hard, believe in myself and my horse, and enjoy the ride...wherever it may take us!
Dear Herbie...what you said...makes me feel good all over about this story. What a wonderful winning attitude, thank you! |
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Location: Sorrow Not! Defending against workplace bullies | I love that he has 4 white feet! |
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| ninaom - 2014-05-05 11:19 PM
I love that he has 4 white feet!
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Location: California | Honeymoney - 2014-05-06 9:47 PM That was pretty cool.
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Location: Florida | He's got nice breeding, can't beat AP Indy and Mr. Prospector. That is not cow bred unless you are wanting to rope jet propelled steers. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Vickie - 2014-05-06 6:39 AM He's got nice breeding, can't beat AP Indy and Mr. Prospector. That is not cow bred unless you are wanting to rope jet propelled steers.
Cal not cow. The announcer talked funny. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Vickie - 2014-05-06 6:39 AM He's got nice breeding, can't beat AP Indy and Mr. Prospector. That is not cow bred unless you are wanting to rope jet propelled steers. Exactly! He may not be by a "Fashionable" sire but he is a graded stakes horse and he is by Pulpit!! Who IS a very high profile sire. Also when you look at his pedigree, it is a tutorial in line breeding. He is sex balanced Mr Prospector who appears in more Kentuckt Derby winners then any other sire, and he is sex balanced Northern Dancer! He alsobrings the sibling factor through the mare Numbered Account who is by none other then Buckpasser!! This is a classic pedigree and his dosages and center of distribution is also indicitive of a Classic horse.
http://www.pedigreequery.com/california+chrome
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Location: NE Texas | CrossCreek - 2014-05-05 10:57 PM Herbie - 2014-05-05 5:03 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 4:52 PM jd&ez - 2014-05-05 4:08 PM Canchasr1 - 2014-05-05 8:25 AM jd&ez - 2014-05-04 7:42 PM Great story but this is an aberation. Just the fact that it is a story should tell you that. Proven breeding lines and proven training methods are proven because they work. We will have the occasional outlier in this business. They for good stories because of that. If you take a look at the breeding on this horse, his dam is well bred. Just because she didnt run, doesnt mean she wont produce. And just because the stud fee wasnt 150k, doesnt mean it wasnt a good cross.
Pretty ignorant statement if you ask me....
The ignorant statement you made is saying he was an aberation
And when you post on a public forum, dont expect all people to agree with you.
The horse isn't poorly bred at all, he's just not by a royal stallion and out of a royal mare, which is what the owners and trainers look for in colts. Some of these that are well bred a generation or two back are never given the chance to compete. Much like my colt, he's not by a name brander or out of a name brander, but that sucker worked 220 yards in 11.7, which is pretty handy even for a horse that IS name brand. Most of the horses that are well bred a generation or two back are never given the chance to play....how many more are we missing out on? This is a special horse, a special situation, and it has inspired me to go home and work hard, believe in myself and my horse, and enjoy the ride...wherever it may take us! Dear Herbie...what you said...makes me feel good all over about this story. What a wonderful winning attitude, thank you!
Thanks, Cross Creek. I think so often we forget how wonderful the journey is....how the daily grind should bring us just as much enjoyment as the end success. Success doesn't have to be winning the Kentucky Derby....though that would be nice! It can be something as simple as loading up and attending a barrel race after a long lay off, or working up from 5D to the 4D.....there are all different levels of success. Sure, we all strive to win the 1D, or win the big race we dream of going to, but I think we forget to set attainable goals along the way to help us see that we are, in fact, making progress and improving each day in reaching that long term goal.
Go California Chorme!!!!!! You and all of your connections have a big fan in NE Texas and no matter what happens from here on out, you have brought me alot of joy and renewed my will to enjoy today! 
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