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Location: SE Louisiana | fatchance - 2014-05-12 7:13 PM
Komet....funny you mention kissing in public.(besides our wedding picture)Â My husband and I never kissed while he was serving...hugged yes. It was a professional decision.
Never felt anyone needed to witness what was ours anyway.Â
FC.. I can remember my folks (very reclusive.. out of the depression) kissing in public... I'm just happy MY state gave birth to something that is long overdue... |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | fatchance - 2014-05-11 12:06 PM So Michael Sam get's drafted in the 7th round, that's deemed "news" because he is gay, media is there to watch him kiss his boyfriend, it makes national news, backlash against those who say anything negative about it and or fined. Whatever happened to being allowed your opinion?
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Haulin@$$ - 2014-05-11 2:14 PM TrailGirl - 2014-05-12 11:20 AM I hear ya.
Right now in Arkansas they are seeking (and being successful) in overturning a law that was voted on and approved overwhelmingly by the people of the state to ban recognition of Same Sex Marriages. A small vocal activist minority is suing to overturn the wishes of the majority. I have a problem with that. Itf the voters speak...it should stand. If they want to change it...take another vote. It could be any issue...not just this one...and I'd feel the same way. What people do in their bedroom isn't my concern...it's when they push their agenda on everyone else with zero tolerance of other opinions that I take issue.
The wishes of the people mean nothing to this government...but we already knew that. So what you are saying is that the will of the majority should trump the rights of the minority? There are reasons we have constitutional rights....one of them being to protect individual (minority ) from this thinking. What if the majority voted to ban interracial marriage, would that be ok? If certain states (majority ) think black people shouldn't be allowed to vote is that ok? I am as conservative as they come, and while I don't necessarily agree with gay marriage, I don't see how, constitutionally speaking, the rights of gay people to marry can even be questioned. Marriage is not strictly a religious institution. In our society marriage also carries with it tax, inheritance, and a slew of other implications.....all of which are essentially being denied to gay individuals who are not allowed to marry (in certain states ). While I agree that the will of the majority should decide most issues, rights afforded to individuals is not one of them.
Agree.....my only issues is now those that disagree with the lifestyle are being punished......from incidents like this.....to the Duck Dynasty, Chick fli a, HGTV recently canning a program due to the brothers Christians principles.........etc........ |
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Location: Oklahoma | When I was Active Duty AF, we could be reprimanded for PDA (Public Displays of Affection). Even holding hands was considered PDA when in uniform. Both my husband and I are very conservative in public, most likely from our military careers. I get bothered by any overt PDA, but I will not condemn anyone for it - not my position to do so.
"The kiss" looked to be an emotional reaction to the phone call, but Sams did have the option of excusing the media from his home.
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I find it ironic that one player gets praise and reorganization for kissing his boyfriend on camera but let another player (Tim Tebow) take a knee on the field and praise God for his success and the media hangs him out to dry. My point is, if the media wants these athletes to keep their personal lives and views, just that PERSONAL then lets be equal across the board! So sick and tired of the media shoving what THEY think is morally "right" and "wrong" down our throats.
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Location: MD | GoGaited - 2014-05-12 4:55 PM
kdb2qq - 2014-05-12 12:15 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-12 11:49 AM It shouldn't be a big deal but it is because it's something that will create a "story" since it's a controversial topic. It can be really easy to say that gays/lesbians/bis "ask for it" and that it's "not a big deal they just make it one" but as a girl with a girlfriend AND a person that does not like attention, I don't ask for it. You'll never see me at a protest or gay pride parade lol. But even if I don't ask for it, I still get dirty looks or smart comments. It might not necessarily be the player himself wanting the attention, it's just the way the media is. For example if I were a NFR level rider and everyone knew I had a girlfriend I'm sure it would be talked about to some extent whether I wanted it to be or not. Sometimes if I really think about it, it hurts that I can't tell someone I have a girlfriend without a pin prick of nervousness about how they're going to react. It's fine that some people don't agree with it - we have mutual friends that are devout Christian but they're still nice to us and don't lecture us. And then some people are just jerks about it. I guess it's something that people don't really get if you aren't in that position. I'm pretty sure none of you have ever been scared that you were going to get ridiculed for saying you had a boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband. I'm sure if this guy ends up being a really good football player they'll forget about it to some extent. Kind of like how everyone knows Ellen DeGeneres is a lesbian but it's not really "news" and it's not "why" she's famous. I agree 100%. Sometimes it's not the Michael Sams of the world who are creating the "media frenzy", they just have to live with it. Edited for spelling And it would be a cold day in hell before my employer sent me to a homosexual re-education indoctrination camp to keep my job. Did the nfl ever say a word about all the feces flung at Tebow because he is a Christian? Oh hell, no, white Christian male be the debil! Â
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic.
I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | GoGaited - 2014-05-13 1:06 AM fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic. I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades.
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Location: Midwest | WrapSnap - 2014-05-12 10:09 PM GoGaited - 2014-05-12 4:55 PM kdb2qq - 2014-05-12 12:15 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-12 11:49 AM It shouldn't be a big deal but it is because it's something that will create a "story" since it's a controversial topic. It can be really easy to say that gays/lesbians/bis "ask for it" and that it's "not a big deal they just make it one" but as a girl with a girlfriend AND a person that does not like attention, I don't ask for it. You'll never see me at a protest or gay pride parade lol. But even if I don't ask for it, I still get dirty looks or smart comments. It might not necessarily be the player himself wanting the attention, it's just the way the media is. For example if I were a NFR level rider and everyone knew I had a girlfriend I'm sure it would be talked about to some extent whether I wanted it to be or not. Sometimes if I really think about it, it hurts that I can't tell someone I have a girlfriend without a pin prick of nervousness about how they're going to react. It's fine that some people don't agree with it - we have mutual friends that are devout Christian but they're still nice to us and don't lecture us. And then some people are just jerks about it. I guess it's something that people don't really get if you aren't in that position. I'm pretty sure none of you have ever been scared that you were going to get ridiculed for saying you had a boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband. I'm sure if this guy ends up being a really good football player they'll forget about it to some extent. Kind of like how everyone knows Ellen DeGeneres is a lesbian but it's not really "news" and it's not "why" she's famous. I agree 100%. Sometimes it's not the Michael Sams of the world who are creating the "media frenzy", they just have to live with it. Edited for spelling And it would be a cold day in hell before my employer sent me to a homosexual re-education indoctrination camp to keep my job. Did the nfl ever say a word about all the feces flung at Tebow because he is a Christian? Oh hell, no, white Christian male be the debil!
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Location: Kansas | The media really likes to blow "gay" stories out of proportion. Sheperd Smith from FOX has outted himself. Once the liberal media got hold of it suddenly the story is FOX changed Shep's schedule from primetime evening to afternoon because this embarrassed them. Come on liberal media, you can do better than that.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Frodo - 2014-05-13 8:11 AM The media really likes to blow "gay" stories out of proportion. Sheperd Smith from FOX has outted himself. Once the liberal media got hold of it suddenly the story is FOX changed Shep's schedule from primetime evening to afternoon because this embarrassed them. Come on liberal media, you can do better than that.
That's interesting. I would have never guessed that Shep is gay. So he came out.....good for him. I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to have to act like you are someone you aren't, especially when you are always in the spotlight. Shep is one of the best in the business, in my opinion, and he has always been very proud of his "Fox family". I hope they have treated him well and nothing else changes, apart from his happiness and the weight of the world off his shoulders. I doubt the quality of his work will change a great deal, except it might get just a bit better.
What I have always liked about Shep is that I believe he has said he was a Democrat, but you would be hard pressed to see any liberal bias in his work. He seems like one of those "old school" journalists who has a pretty strict code of journalistic ethics.....like we used to see 40-50 years ago. Back in the 60s you would have a hard time guessing Cronkite was liberal, for instance. |
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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-12 1:57 PM.......Also, his size and speed hurts him. He's not big enough to play his college position in the NFL and not fast enough to really be moved elsewhere. And if I had paid better attention, I could have told you which positions. I don't think his sexuality helped him in the draft, but I don't believe it really hurt him either.
...... That's right. It's what the pro's refer to as a "tweener".
Michael Sam wasn't the only tweener to go lower than projected. Jackson Jeffcoat was also projected as to go as high as the 3rd round but went undrafted because of it.
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Location: South Dakota | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-13 11:09 AM Frodo - 2014-05-13 8:11 AM The media really likes to blow "gay" stories out of proportion. Sheperd Smith from FOX has outted himself. Once the liberal media got hold of it suddenly the story is FOX changed Shep's schedule from primetime evening to afternoon because this embarrassed them. Come on liberal media, you can do better than that.
That's interesting. I would have never guessed that Shep is gay. So he came out.....good for him. I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to have to act like you are someone you aren't, especially when you are always in the spotlight. Shep is one of the best in the business, in my opinion, and he has always been very proud of his "Fox family". I hope they have treated him well and nothing else changes, apart from his happiness and the weight of the world off his shoulders. I doubt the quality of his work will change a great deal, except it might get just a bit better.
What I have always liked about Shep is that I believe he has said he was a Democrat, but you would be hard pressed to see any liberal bias in his work. He seems like one of those "old school" journalists who has a pretty strict code of journalistic ethics.....like we used to see 40-50 years ago. Back in the 60s you would have a hard time guessing Cronkite was liberal, for instance.
For as long as I can remember...Shep has been on at 2pm... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-13 11:09 AM
Frodo - 2014-05-13 8:11 AM  The media really likes to blow "gay" stories out of proportion. Sheperd Smith from FOX has outted himself.  Once the liberal media got hold of it suddenly the story is FOX changed Shep's schedule from primetime evening to afternoon because this embarrassed them. Come on liberal media, you can do better than that.Â
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That's interesting. Â I would have never guessed that Shep is gay. Â So he came out.....good for him. Â I can't even begin to imagine what it would be like to have to act like you are someone you aren't, especially when you are always in the spotlight. Â Shep is one of the best in the business, in my opinion, and he has always been very proud of his "Fox family". Â I hope they have treated him well and nothing else changes, apart from his happiness and the weight of the world off his shoulders. Â I doubt the quality of his work will change a great deal, except it might get just a bit better. Â
What I have always liked about Shep is that I believe he has said he was a Democrat, but you would be hard pressed to see any liberal bias in his work. Â He seems like one of those "old school" journalists who has a pretty strict code of journalistic ethics.....like we used to see 40-50 years ago. Â Back in the 60s you would have a hard time guessing Cronkite was liberal, for instance. Â
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| TXBO - 2014-05-13 12:10 PM aggiejudger - 2014-05-12 1:57 PM.......Also, his size and speed hurts him. He's not big enough to play his college position in the NFL and not fast enough to really be moved elsewhere. And if I had paid better attention, I could have told you which positions. I don't think his sexuality helped him in the draft, but I don't believe it really hurt him either.
...... That's right. It's what the pro's refer to as a "tweener".
Michael Sam wasn't the only tweener to go undrafted, Jackson Jeffcoat was also projected as to go as high as the 3rd round but went undrafted because of it.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | GoGaited - 2014-05-13 6:27 PM 3canstorun - 2014-05-13 7:12 AM GoGaited - 2014-05-13 1:06 AM fatchance - 2014-05-12 6:14 PM GoGaited, IMHO there are better ways to state your stance on this topic. I don't seek your approval for my stance or how I state it. P/C can go to hades.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | barrelracr131 - 2014-05-13 7:43 AM WrapSnap - 2014-05-12 10:09 PM GoGaited - 2014-05-12 4:55 PM kdb2qq - 2014-05-12 12:15 PM livexlovexrodeo - 2014-05-12 11:49 AM It shouldn't be a big deal but it is because it's something that will create a "story" since it's a controversial topic. It can be really easy to say that gays/lesbians/bis "ask for it" and that it's "not a big deal they just make it one" but as a girl with a girlfriend AND a person that does not like attention, I don't ask for it. You'll never see me at a protest or gay pride parade lol. But even if I don't ask for it, I still get dirty looks or smart comments. It might not necessarily be the player himself wanting the attention, it's just the way the media is. For example if I were a NFR level rider and everyone knew I had a girlfriend I'm sure it would be talked about to some extent whether I wanted it to be or not. Sometimes if I really think about it, it hurts that I can't tell someone I have a girlfriend without a pin prick of nervousness about how they're going to react. It's fine that some people don't agree with it - we have mutual friends that are devout Christian but they're still nice to us and don't lecture us. And then some people are just jerks about it. I guess it's something that people don't really get if you aren't in that position. I'm pretty sure none of you have ever been scared that you were going to get ridiculed for saying you had a boyfriend/girlfriend/wife/husband. I'm sure if this guy ends up being a really good football player they'll forget about it to some extent. Kind of like how everyone knows Ellen DeGeneres is a lesbian but it's not really "news" and it's not "why" she's famous. I agree 100%. Sometimes it's not the Michael Sams of the world who are creating the "media frenzy", they just have to live with it. Edited for spelling And it would be a cold day in hell before my employer sent me to a homosexual re-education indoctrination camp to keep my job. Did the nfl ever say a word about all the feces flung at Tebow because he is a Christian? Oh hell, no, white Christian male be the debil!
Well, bless your heart!
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