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| crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM
My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway )
Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids? |
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  The Original Cyber Bartender
Location: Washington | Lobo - 2014-05-19 7:21 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 9:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) I don't think he will either. Too many stalking him that have had plenty of rest.
Just my personal opinion, I wouldn't run him. California Chrome doesn't have a thing to prove.
Seriously?
The NY stewards needs to make a decision about flair strips then put it in the books. They need to stop having say who can't and who can use them. It truly is that simple.
The owners are on record calling CC the people's horse, well the people want a Triple Crown winner. And the amount of money Belmont and New York will make if CC runs is staggering. Not sure it is about a horse anymore, it's about what is always has been about....money. |
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Location: The birthplace of Honest Abe | He is running with his nasal strips. |
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Location: SW MO | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
I guess we just have different standards of what a historial champion should be |
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Location: Kentucky | crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
I think he *can* run without the nasal strip, but he runs better with it on. I can run with flip flops.... but I'm better in tennis shoes. I don't strike him for the strip at all. That's like saying he shouldn't be on THE either. |
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Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | fatchance - 2014-05-19 9:46 AM Lobo - 2014-05-19 7:21 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 9:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) I don't think he will either. Too many stalking him that have had plenty of rest.
Just my personal opinion, I wouldn't run him. California Chrome doesn't have a thing to prove.
The NY stewards needs to make a decision about flair strips then put it in the books. They need to stop having say who can't and who can use them. It truly is that simple.
The owners are on record calling CC the people's horse, well the people want a Triple Crown winner. And the amount of money Belmont and New York will make if CC runs is staggering. Not sure it is about a horse anymore, it's about what is always has been about....money.
If they have it as a rule they should keep it. It is just one more example of lowering your standards. |
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Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | Murphy - 2014-05-19 10:43 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
Well like I said it's just my opinion. LOL & that about worth a 1/2 cent |
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| crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
Fair enough -however- the past champions did their best with what they had in body, technology, and technique. The present and future champions should be afforded the same chance. |
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Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 10:51 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
I see it as this isn't just any athlete this is the triple crown winner & him having to have an aid to win just takes something away from his greatness. If he has to have that to win then is he as great as past winners. Would he have been able to win with it? We'll never know |
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The Original Cyber Bartender
Location: Washington | crossspur - 2014-05-19 8:45 AM fatchance - 2014-05-19 9:46 AM Lobo - 2014-05-19 7:21 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 9:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) I don't think he will either. Too many stalking him that have had plenty of rest.
Just my personal opinion, I wouldn't run him. California Chrome doesn't have a thing to prove.
The NY stewards needs to make a decision about flair strips then put it in the books. They need to stop having say who can't and who can use them. It truly is that simple.
The owners are on record calling CC the people's horse, well the people want a Triple Crown winner. And the amount of money Belmont and New York will make if CC runs is staggering. Not sure it is about a horse anymore, it's about what is always has been about....money.
There was never a rule on it. It was the Belmont stewards that had the say, and that is never a good idea. After the voting by the racing commisson and the Jockey Club it will be in the books, as it needs to be. |
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| crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:59 AM
Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 10:51 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
So by your way of thinking he should not run in blinkers or have his tongue tied either? After all these are aids to. |
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|  YAY!!! HE GETS to wear the STRIP!!!!!  |
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| crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:59 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 10:51 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
I might agree with you if we had a Triple Crown winner every year or at least frequently.
The horse that wins the Triple Crown is a champion, aids or no aids.
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 11:22 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:59 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 10:51 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
The horse that wins the Triple Crown is a champion, aids or no aids.
Agreed! |
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Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 11:22 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:59 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 10:51 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
The horse that wins the Triple Crown is a champion, aids or no aids.
Ok for me it's just the opposite the reasons you listed are the reasons I'm against it. But like I said it's just me. I'm not saying anyone else is right or wrong. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | " I see it as this isn't just any athlete this is the triple crown winner & him having to have an aid to win just takes something away from his greatness. If he has to have that to win then is he as great as past winners. Would he have been able to win with it? We'll never know"
This statement made me chuckle a bit. I get what you are saying/feeling...but one of the universally agreed greatest horses ever...Secretariat... Ran his TC races with a hood/blinkers to help him focus and run better. He wasn't as good without them apparently. Does that diminish his greatness? Not for me it doesn't. But at the time it was seen as a potential weakness. Much as the nasal strip discussion today.
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Location: SE Louisiana | crossspur - 2014-05-19 9:00 AM
My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway )
Ya know.... I don't think he can win either.... But they allow blinders as aids and other things as well.... |
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Location: Sperry, OK | crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:59 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 10:51 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 11:40 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-05-19 9:44 AM crossspur - 2014-05-19 10:00 AM My question is though do you really want the next triple crown winner to need an aid to run.
( JMO I don't think he can win anyway ) Because shoes, certain bits, boots, and blinkers aren't aids?
So does that mean they shouldn't allow them to run on Lasix? Should they have to be able to run at that caliber without bleeding to be considered great? Lasix even has the potential to be performance inhancing since it is a vasodialator, we are talking about nose strips to just allow a little more air flow, that is all. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Definitely some California Chrome haters going on...yay California Chrome! Went to the Santa Anita Race Track this past weekend and they showed the Preakness on the big screen. Haven't heard the crowd get that excited and loud since Zenyatta. This is what we need right now. A fantastic story with a fantastic ending. Glad he gets to wear his nasal strips. GO CALIFORNIA CHROME! I'm rooting for the Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner California Chrome. |
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Roan Wonder
Location: SW MO | Ok so once again you all have made me sorry I said anything. I said it was just my feelings on the subject. Why did you paint your house the color you did? Why did you buy the brand of car you did? Because it's you opinion how you feel & what you like.
I maybe very wrong in my line of thinking & and I said my opinion wasn't worth a lot, but I think I should still be able to have that opinion
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