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| I know one that is a nice barrel horse, fantastic lines. If he was a mare you would want him for your broodmare band based on his papers. He has a crooked front leg. I've seen full siblings & 3/4 siblings of his that are broodmares with fantastic conformation, that have thrown babies with fantastic conformation. |
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Location: Florida.. | Donnie competed successfully until he was 24 grand prix dressage then carried on some freestyles until he was 28.... NO soundness issues ...he was laid to rest few months ago at 33. so I disagree with everyone that says it will cause issues.. but With proper care and a great knowledgable farrier ..its not a fact.. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-05-22 10:26 AM
Donnie competed successfully until he was 24  grand prix dressage then carried on some freestyles until he was 28.... NO soundness issues ...he was laid to rest few months ago at 33. so I disagree with everyone that says it will cause issues.. but  With proper care and a great knowledgable farrier ..its not a fact..
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | TNcowgirl88 - 2014-05-22 8:41 AM I am confused... and I have wanted to ask before. Is he a gelding or a stud? I have heard both and its been posted here that he is both.. Clarification? Sorry :(
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Location: California | Chrome is Curly's neighbor. Bryan, who is the exercise rider for Curly, says Chrome is a colt. He sees Chrome everyday so end of story. Colt and has balls. |
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Location: Oklahoma City OK | dk66 - 2014-05-22 7:50 AM A very wise trainer once told me that you can go to a sale buy the best yearling with the best conformation but as a 2yr. old it doesn't make a bit of difference if the horse you turned your nose up at that sale beats you at the wire. There are 2 horses that come to mind when you think of exceptional individuals that were crooked as they come Exterminator and Seabiscuit. The one thing that I think is so hard to breed for unless you just know in your soul is heart and try, without these 2 things it makes it all very difficult. California Chrome is an individual that loves his job, trusts the people around him, and has the heart and determination to be the exceptional individual he is.
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Location: The Great Northwest | It is good to know that CC toes out. There is a difference in the demands in exercise for racing as for the tracks and barrel racing. I would feel that the turns, so much circle work would take a toll. |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | I have a 14.2 (on a tall day) full TB and she swims BADLY on her front left. Always has and she was old enough that we couldn't fix it when I got her. She had gotten used to it. She has maintenance for sure but I just brought her back the first weekend of April and that mare has already won me $1k. Granted on bad runs but that money still spends the same as if she won it!
I do take her to the left but that is more because of her recent surgery than anything.
I will say I agree with the more maintenance comment from someone. My mare is a conformational disaster and I don't care how much she has won me she will NEVER be bred. BUT, with that said, I will keep up on her maintenance and will continue to run her unless she has pain. Then we won't. |
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| When he is in CA I see him every weekend when I go to Santa Anita and Los Al and he is a colt. He has been on Muscle Mass since the day he came to the track to compete so I see him when I go on Sundays to deliver products and talk with trainers.
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Location: British Columbia | Just out of curiosity, I read an article about what kind of stud fee CC will command if he does not win the Belmont, which was around 25K. Now if he doesn't, his earnings are still over 3million dollars.
How is Corona Cartel's stud fee 10K higher than CC's if he wins two legs of the triple crown? Should it not be considerably higher? |
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Location: California | Even if he doesn't win the Belmont I think his initial stud fee will be $125,000.
It will go up once he produces winners. AP Indy was $150,000, Storm Cat was $500,000 and Northern Dancer was $1,000,000.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | TMEquine - 2014-05-22 5:32 PM
Just out of curiosity, I read an article about what kind of stud fee CC will command if he does not win the Belmont, which was around 25K. Now if he doesn't, his earnings are still over 3million dollars.
How is Corona Cartel's stud fee 10K higher than CC's if he wins two legs of the triple crown? Should it not be considerably higher?
Corona Cartel didn't start off that high. He proved himself as a producer. $25000 as a start off fee is average for this I believe. Look at Curlin he's proving himself and has had multiple winners and it's $25000. |
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Location: Big Blue Skies | My good vet always says look at how they are traveling if the legs are crooked. He runs straight and that's what matters. |
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Location: In a happy place | Bibliafarm - 2014-05-22 10:26 AM
Donnie competed successfully until he was 24  grand prix dressage then carried on some freestyles until he was 28.... NO soundness issues ...he was laid to rest few months ago at 33. so I disagree with everyone that says it will cause issues.. but  With proper care and a great knowledgable farrier ..its not a fact..
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| If that is a pic of CC on the first page as a weanling... how did his facial markings change so much? Or am I being blond and completely missing something here... I would call that not the right weanling...? |
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| I've been looking for my next prospect and just an observation I've noticed...it seems to me of what I have looked at the ones that are by tb mares or have a lot of tb in them have all toed out in the front. I won't buy one like that so it's making my task very difficult! |
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Location: Central Texas | I've had both toed out and toed in (not bad but still a conformational fault), never had an issues with either and they both could move and scoot. Have had one that was perfect in every way, couldn't hold up to running barrels at all and moved like a tank. So, I guess I will take the horse that can get the job done over the beauty queen if I have to. Would love the complete package of course. Also, crooked legs are not always genetics, could be the way they developed in the womb for some reason other than genetics. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | I think its whats inside a horse that makes them a winner and their legs are however God made them. No one told California Chrome he couldn't run. If you don't like it, don't breed to him. |
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Location: MD | One being crooked doesn't bother me a ton, so long as the hoof lands squarely... |
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