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       Location: Bandera, TX | BarrelRacing4Christ - 2014-06-02 3:56 PM Bergdahl is a traitor and a deserter. He abandoned his post and is responsible for the deaths of many members of the armed forces. I have no respect for him, and I have no respect for his family. I have many more thoughts and very strong opinions on the matter and would love to offer them but will not due to my own affiliation in the armed forces. One last note, he does not even come close to deserving the title of 'hero' that so many people have naively bestowed upon him. Bergdahl is no better than the lowest scum on the earth.
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         Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I don't have time to sit down and read all the posts....
My only thought is that America does NOT negotiate. It has worked for generations and our fore fathers honored that.
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  The Original Cyber Bartender
          Location: Washington | So many strong opinions.
I still cannot wrap one brain cell around the fact that he will not face any charges when he comes home. This has me baffled. HE should be held accountable for his actions. He has recieved two promotions while being held, which is S.O.P, but what if he decides he wants to stay in the military?
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | brlraceaddict - 2014-06-02 3:27 PM Gail - 2014-06-02 11:33 AM
Forwarded from XXXXXX. "We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday." The men that wrote this post were there. Thank you Gail, for this post. What I want to know is who dislikes this post and how can you dislike the truth?
A member of the Taliban...LOL |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | fatchance - 2014-06-02 4:13 PM So many strong opinions.
I still cannot wrap one brain cell around the fact that he will not face any charges when he comes home. This has me baffled. HE should be held accountable for his actions. He has recieved two promotions while being held, which is S.O.P, but what if he decides he wants to stay in the military?
This whole deal just doesn't make sense!!!!!
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 4:41 PM fatchance - 2014-06-02 4:13 PM So many strong opinions.
I still cannot wrap one brain cell around the fact that he will not face any charges when he comes home. This has me baffled. HE should be held accountable for his actions. He has recieved two promotions while being held, which is S.O.P, but what if he decides he wants to stay in the military?
This whole deal just doesn't make sense!!!!!
I couldn't agree more.
I agree! This whole scenario stinks to high heaven!!! |
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I'm a Cry Baby
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        Location: n.c. | He is a deserter! He just did it in such a way that he wouldn't be court martialed. Pansy. And he won't be charged with desertion when he gets home either. Crock! Big fat crock! |
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Praying for Palin to get pzzed enough to jump in when Hillary does. Our goose is cooked if we don't get someone that can rally up this country and it will take a highly charismatic enigma to do this. LIke or nor not, nobody else can get an entire country to listen to them the way she can.
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  Semper Fi
             Location: North Texas | ergdahl's controversial disappearance costs American Servicemen's Lives. And all the circumstances surrounding this individual are NOT in favor of Bergdahl. Also, Obama broke His Own Legislation by withholding information from Congress. Per reports I have read, The Adminstration had the idea of Replicating Reagan's Release of The Iranian Hostages in 1980. Obiviously this has NOT been the case. And is most likely the nail in Obama's Coffin that will bring about Impeachment Proceedings. Years too late as far am I concerned. And I believe Bergdahl's Unit Members in regards to the circumstances surrounding His Disappearance. Deserters are Court Marshaled! |
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  Keeper of the King Snake
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    Location: Dubach, LA | foundation horse - 2014-06-02 7:11 PM ergdahl's controversial disappearance costs American Servicemen's Lives. And all the circumstances surrounding this individual are NOT in favor of Bergdahl.
Also, Obama broke His Own Legislation by withholding information from Congress. Per reports I have read, The Adminstration had the idea of Replicating Reagan's Release of The Iranian Hostages in 1980. Obiviously this has NOT been the case. And is most likely the nail in Obama's Coffin that will bring about Impeachment Proceedings. Years too late as far am I concerned.
And I believe Bergdahl's Unit Members in regards to the circumstances surrounding His Disappearance. Deserters are Court Marshaled!
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  A Lady with Fight
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    Location: NC | foundation horse - 2014-06-02 8:11 PM
ergdahl's controversial disappearance costs American Servicemen's Lives. And all the circumstances surrounding this individual are NOT in favor of Bergdahl. Also, Obama broke His Own Legislation by withholding information from Congress. Per reports I have read, The Adminstration had the idea of Replicating Reagan's Release of The Iranian Hostages in 1980. Obiviously this has NOT been the case. And is most likely the nail in Obama's Coffin that will bring about Impeachment Proceedings. Years too late as far am I concerned. And I believe Bergdahl's Unit Members in regards to the circumstances surrounding His Disappearance. Deserters are Court Marshaled!
Deserters are shot. At least during war time. |
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    Location: Friendswood, Texas | We'll be seeing those five terrorists again. And it wouldn't surprise me if that missing Malaysian airliner is involved when we do....
I am praying for the safety of America and her soldiers. God help us all. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | FriendswoodKat - 2014-06-02 8:10 PM We'll be seeing those five terrorists again. And it wouldn't surprise me if that missing Malaysian airliner is involved when we do.... I am praying for the safety of America and her soldiers. God help us all.
Yep! This was my thoughts exactly! These 5 will be back and it wouldnt suprise me one bit that Obama chose those specific 5 in a deal so he can impliment marshal law when they unleash more mayham that makes 9-11 look like a warm up drill. |
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             Location: North Texas | ThreeCorners - 2014-06-02 8:40 PM FriendswoodKat - 2014-06-02 8:10 PM We'll be seeing those five terrorists again. And it wouldn't surprise me if that missing Malaysian airliner is involved when we do.... I am praying for the safety of America and her soldiers. God help us all. Yep! This was my thoughts exactly! These 5 will be back and it wouldnt suprise me one bit that Obama chose those specific 5 in a deal so he can impliment marshal law when they unleash more mayham that makes 9-11 look like a warm up drill.
Martial/Marshal Law will difficult to implement upon an armed society. Hence the idea behind gun control/grabbing. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | And once again Susan Rice is on TV spewing more BS. I couldn't believe when she called him a hero. |
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           Location: Florida.. | Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 11:07 PM And once again Susan Rice is on TV spewing more BS. I couldn't believe when she called him a hero.
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    Location: South Dakota | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-02 10:08 PM Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 11:07 PM And once again Susan Rice is on TV spewing more BS. I couldn't believe when she called him a hero. I cant even watch.. it makes me Ill
I feel the same way...it turns my stomach ...the whole bunch of them... |
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       Location: your guess is as good as mine | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-02 9:22 AM he is of Muslim faith..
and the washington men do nothing but alllow this.. what is this relation to carney stepping down anyone know or does it?
This^^.
There's too much not making sense about all of this...like RSS said - we haven't cared about this guy for 5 years. Why now? One thing I have learned is that Obama does NOTHING that does not benefit Obama. He couldn't care less about our soldiers, the military, America itself - except in relation to how it benefits him. So how does he gain from this? He's no longer worried about popularity...he's a lame duck president - he knows this is it, short of setting himself up as dictator. So what is his end game?
The naive part of me - the part that grew up watching "Scarecrow & Mrs King" and other spy shows wants to believe that this was an elaborate set up from the beginning. A way to plant an American soldier in the Taliban to maybe learn their secrets...a way to track these leaders that were released in hopes of finally bringing down the Taliban once and for all.
The far-too-cynical part of me - the part that has taken over more & more of my psyche since Obama was first elected - wonders if we haven't just invited the fox back into the henhouse. Wonders if we haven't just declared open season on every American now that the whole world realizes that Obama will indeed negotiate with terrorists & will bypass Congress if need be.
All I know is that I don't trust anyone in Washington right now - Democrat or Republican. I know that I don't trust the civilian (I refuse to call him a soldier) that we're getting back...anymore than I trust the 5 Taliban officers that were released. I know that I respectfully disagree with those that claim it's just the media stirring up sh**...a precedent has been set with this - a very dangerous precedent.
And yes...I believe that the President committed treason and should be impeached - but unlike FH I also believe that it will never happen. I "believe" more...but I think I've ranted enough.  |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Did anybody catch the interview with the father where he said he son was a Hero, he's proud of him for wanting to help the Afganastan children? |
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   Location: SE Louisiana | Lobo - 2014-06-02 9:43 AM
So do I.Β But I'm going to wait until there is moreΒ reliable information out.Β So far it sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.Β
I do take exception to the member's of Congress squalling because they weren't notified before the hand off.Β I suppose they wanted to debate it for a few weeks. They couldn't get anything done without debate even if their pant's were on fire!  Β Β
....and here is the problem with congress.... I you allow them to debate ANYTHING, you can rest assured it will not get done properly... |
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