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mikesfleet
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Posted 2014-06-05 2:33 PM
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Herbie
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Posted 2014-06-05 2:34 PM
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CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.
 I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year.  I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is.  Jesses Double Dee comes to mind.  One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered).  He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is.  I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
He is a very nice horse without a doubt and so happy that he is producing.  He was pretty tough to beat himself when he laid one down! 



I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc.  Publicity, publicity, publicity.  
We own the filly by JDD that just won the Crawfish Craze. If I could have 10 more of her I would! We are ET her next year and trying to decide who to breed her to, that isnt palomino or buckskin. JDD could be a top sire if he was promoted as a stallion more.  We are breeding and have bred to Epic Leader and Firewaterontherocks and I think they are going to be at the top of the sire charts in the years to come.  

I thought you did....very cool!  I've seen a good bit of video of Chris running her as well and she's one nice filly.  That should be a pretty cool cross for sure.   
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-06-05 3:32 PM
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Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-06-05 3:36 PM
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Slick by Design, Epic Leader, On a Gator

I liked that Fly the Red Eye stud. Don't know how big he'll be but he's nice.

Pappasito maybe?
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-06-05 3:41 PM
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casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(

Bummer. 
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-06-05 3:46 PM
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Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 3:41 PM

casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(

Bummer.Β 

I know :(. My tentative plans for next season are:
Jet of Honor daughter X firewater ta fame
Stoli daughter X slick by design
Reckless Dash daughter X ivory james


butttttt IDK if the third one will happen… lots can change!
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total performance
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-06-05 3:48 PM
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Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM
CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.
 I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year.  I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is.  Jesses Double Dee comes to mind.  One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered).  He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is.  I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
He is a very nice horse without a doubt and so happy that he is producing.  He was pretty tough to beat himself when he laid one down! 



I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc.  Publicity, publicity, publicity.  

I agree with Herbie here.  I have to thrown in Ivory James and PYC also.  PYC already has one that is setting the barrels on fire.  
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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-06-05 3:49 PM
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Firewaterontherocks would be my pick if I was breeding a mare. I was SOOOO impressed with him at the American Trials and then he would have won the whole stinkin thing plus a share of the bonus if he hadn't tipped. And in an o-ring with no tie down to boot. Not many studs like that. 
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-06-05 4:21 PM
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total performance - 2014-06-05 3:48 PM

Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM
CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.
Β I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. Β I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Β Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. Β One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). Β He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. Β I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
He is a very nice horse without a doubt and so happy that he is producing.Β  He was pretty tough to beat himself when he laid one down!Β 



I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc.Β  Publicity, publicity, publicity.Β Β 

I agree with Herbie here.Β  I have to thrown in Ivory James and PYC also.Β  PYC already has one that is setting the barrels on fire. Β 

I love Ivory James, Firewaterontherocks, and On A Gator...

Blazin Jet Olena is my horse crush too.... but I think he can be considered already big.


I would say PYC too but am scared at how fast his stud fee is skyrocketing. I don't know how many you will see in the barrel pen unless people find lots off the track still sound. 15k is a lot of $$ for him already, I'd rather breed to DTF or FG and possibly have money left in my pocket after.


ETA: I forgot Firewater Finale and I love everything about him!

I am not a huge fan of On The Money Red, but Slick is intriguing me too.

Edited by ndiehl 2014-06-05 10:36 PM
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ALGal
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-06-05 6:18 PM
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Really liking the potential of Boxers N Briefs (FWF x Famous Silk Panties). Doesn't have any babies on the ground yet but I bet he's gonna be a good one!

http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/industry-news/3974-chad-har...
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Posted 2014-06-05 6:37 PM
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jbhoot - 2014-06-05 11:24 AM
~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-06-05 11:13 AM I think On A Gator is going to be one to watch... He hasn't gotten to prove himself with this babies yet but I think he will.. I see his fee increasing rapidly... But I'm biased, I'm breeding to him this year, hopefully friday if the cards are right!!
I agree. He has two olds at the track now and they sure look good. my trainer has a 3 year old getting patterned now that is looking great. I sure like the bone, size,and attitude that he throws so far.

My On A Gator is a 3 year old.  He has such a neat way of getting around a barrel and his disposition is fantastic.  He is so darn athletic.  I bought him off of an add here on BHW.  
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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2014-06-05 8:34 PM
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I bet it's gonna be which ever one gets the most DTF mares!
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SilverCanChaser
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2014-06-05 8:39 PM
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I have an On A Gator colt too - here is mine - would love to see your's .... my colt is for sale.



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SilverCanChaser
Reg. Sep 2008
Posted 2014-06-05 8:43 PM
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forgot to say I just took this photo today - he is 15 days old.
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Fancie_That_Chrome_
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-06-05 9:18 PM
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OK So I have a question.
At the beginning of this post a couple of people said A streak of fling as the next big sire. but most of you who i know or assume are very knowledgeable people and "up with the times" ( so to speak) are not even mentioning him.

I would just like to ask why/ whats your reasoning for that.

I mean if someone asked me this question I would have had A streak of fling right near the top along with a few others i really like.

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sorrel horse ranch
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-06-05 9:53 PM
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I guess maybe I misunderstood the title.  I was thinking studs that are relatively new on the scene.  If it is all inclusive of studs standing today then yes A Streak Of Fling should be included.  I would have included Firewater Ta Fame but I included his name one time on an "up and coming" stud list and Shelly called and graciously thanked me but said she thought he was beyond "up and coming."  So let me add these to the list.....A Streak Of Fling, Firewater Ta Fame and Lions Share Of Fame.
 
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sorrel horse ranch
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-06-05 9:56 PM
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SilverCanChaser - 2014-06-05 8:39 PM I have an On A Gator colt too - here is mine - would love to see your's .... my colt is for sale.

I am crazy computer illeterate or else I would post a picture of mine.  Your baby is gorgeous.  I hope he finds a really good home! 
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-06-05 10:08 PM
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I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind.
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-06-05 10:25 PM
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-06-05 10:37 PM
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CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM

It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.

No kidding. I've said this for several years....all his colts are natural barrel horses....doesn't matter what he's bred to....I've owned 3...one out of a good mare, one out of a so-so mare and one out of a nothing mare, and they all 3 made 1D barrel horses and made them quick. I buy every one I can find that's decently priced. I think he's the best kept secret in the barrel racing world. Now that Whateva and several other get have placed high in the futurities, I bet people start looking at him closer.
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