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Location: Denver, but a Nebraska native -- GO BIG RED!!! | PC is for Pat Cowan (I believe) who owned Sun Frost. And FG and Dinero and are half brothers so crossing a daughter of one to the other would be a little close. Maybe worth a try though. Who knows! : ) |
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Location: The edge of no where | Alamo1 - 2014-07-02 4:59 PM Futurity winners are awesome but you need a horse that can go for the long haul. Rodeo or open horses have to be able to last. Too many futurity horses end up blown up and are burnt out before they are 10 years old.
Lots of rodeo horses had very successful futurity careers..... No, they don't all last, but your statement is very very dated.
Why do you worry about this so much? Do you have a Dinero baby that you're trying to sell? Since you're so high on him, go buy one if you want.....our opinions on it really shouldn't matter if you've got your mind made up. |
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| So... IF your mare throws babies that are super nice but take a while to mature then Dinero is probably NOT the best choice? |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Aqhaczy - 2014-07-02 6:29 PM Has anyone taken a FG mare and bred to Dinero? Are there any get out there performing with this particular cross? Since they both have some great attributes seems like someone would have tried this cross. We bought a 2x Sunfrost mare in foal to Dinero last summer and sold her early this year within a hour of putting her on one of the FB sale pages. She foaled a yellow horse colt after 366 days for the buyer. Late bloomers or not, the Dinero babies seem very marketable :)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sunny+money4
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Location: Kansas | teehaha - 2014-07-03 9:19 AM Aqhaczy - 2014-07-02 6:29 PM Has anyone taken a FG mare and bred to Dinero? Are there any get out there performing with this particular cross? Since they both have some great attributes seems like someone would have tried this cross. We bought a 2x Sunfrost mare in foal to Dinero last summer and sold her early this year within a hour of putting her on one of the FB sale pages. She foaled a yellow horse colt after 366 days for the buyer. Late bloomers or not, the Dinero babies seem very marketable :)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sunny+money4
WOW that is one nice mare, and a super flashy baby!!!! |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | I've never been within eyesight of a live Dinero baby. I have had several FG decendants. The reason I "think" people aren't talking about Dinero progeny is because of the above. I've never had one, never even seen one in person and I think a big reason for that is his stud fee from the get go was out of reach for most people even if you were willing to give him a try. When I bred to FG his fee was $1000. He stood for that for several years and got a whole slug of babies on the ground. The last year I tried to breed to him his fee jumped to $1500 and he was breeding 100+ mares a year. When Potters started Dinero out his fee was pretty high. I don't remember exactly how high but at least $2K if not $2500. That's why there isn't anyone talking about them. Nobody has one because they don't want to breed to him at that stud fee for what he had done at that point. I feel the same about JL Dash Ta Heaven. He performed but his fee is way too high to get many breeders. JMHO |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2014-07-03 9:48 AM
teehaha - 2014-07-03 9:19 AM Aqhaczy - 2014-07-02 6:29 PM Has anyone taken a FG mare and bred to Dinero? Are there any get out there performing with this particular cross?  Since they both have some great attributes seems like someone would have tried this cross. We bought a 2x Sunfrost mare in foal to Dinero last summer and sold her early this year within a hour of putting her on one of the FB sale pages. She foaled a yellow horse colt after 366 days for the buyer. Late bloomers or not, the Dinero babies seem very marketable :)
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/sunny+money4
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Thanks! We bought the mare in foal from Teehaha this past April. I bought for the versatility that I believe this colt will have. I think Dinero may be overpriced at $3k and I know this isnt a $20k colt but I didnt buy looking for a futurity prospect. I can also already tell he will be a handful because at 6 days old he's already a little shi*. Its all in what you like and get along with. |
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Location: WI | I have wanted for many years to own a dinero baby and finally saved my money up to breed to him last year, and i got a great little stud colt out of my main barrel horse this year. Yes, compared to other great stallions out there, his stud fee is high, and was and probably will be the highest i'll ever pay for one, but that may be why they are "holding their value" and are so marketable. Every horse i've seen for sale by him, and that isn't many, ive drooled over and dreamed of owning but just couldn't swing the $$$$. So i bit the bullet and created my own to drool over! haha
I think the Potter's are quiet smart in the price tag they have on his stud fee, it weeds out the "tire kicker" breeders i guess you could say, and with less foals on the ground and being bred to most decent or well bred mares, it makes owning one that more special! (atleast i think my baby is special  )
I'm a fan of both Dinero and frenchman's guy offspring, and i personally think their talent level is pretty comparable.
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Location: Scurry, TX | Please verify user friendly for me. I have not come accross any of his get that are hard to get a long with. Please explain |
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Location: Scurry, TX | i would have to disagree with that statement. |
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Location: Scurry, TX | That is a common sense statement.
What i was looking for with this question was a good debate and not a lot of hate and nasty comments.
I think both horses are great, equally great.
Just wanted to know about the lack of buzz about Dinero |
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Location: torrington, wy | The talk on fg is his strong maternal side,with that being said who has the better mom? Was FG not advertised as being related to Bozo? I'm just trying to fiqure out if Dinero or FG has the better dam? I also think the owners have had very different plans for the horses. Potter's want versitile horses and aren't that worried about futurities, if they were I can qurantee the out come would be different. FG is in it for the futurities and $'s. Neither is wrong it's just the difference in one owner and the other. I have yet to see a son or daughter of FG do what Stingray has done in the rodeo world, but have not seen futurity horses by him done what the FG have done. I would like to know how many starters they each had and what they got done. Not just the ones that have won money. Like the race horses # of starters # of money earners etc. |
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| tebar - 2014-07-03 5:38 PM
The talk on fg is his strong maternal side,with that being said who has the better mom? Was FG not advertised as being related to Bozo? I'm just trying to fiqure out if Dinero or FG has the better dam? I also think the owners have had very different plans for the horses. Potter's want versitile horses and aren't that worried about futurities, if they were I can qurantee the out come would be different. FG is in it for the futurities and $'s. Neither is wrong it's just the difference in one owner and the other. I have yet to see a son or daughter of FG do what Stingray has done in the rodeo world, but have not seen futurity horses by him done what the FG have done. I would like to know how many starters they each had and what they got done. Not just the ones that have won money. Like the race horses # of starters # of money earners etc.
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Location: California | tebar - 2014-07-03 2:38 PM The talk on fg is his strong maternal side,with that being said who has the better mom? Was FG not advertised as being related to Bozo? I'm just trying to fiqure out if Dinero or FG has the better dam? I also think the owners have had very different plans for the horses. Potter's want versitile horses and aren't that worried about futurities, if they were I can qurantee the out come would be different. FG is in it for the futurities and $'s. Neither is wrong it's just the difference in one owner and the other. I have yet to see a son or daughter of FG do what Stingray has done in the rodeo world, but have not seen futurity horses by him done what the FG have done. I would like to know how many starters they each had and what they got done. Not just the ones that have won money. Like the race horses # of starters # of money earners etc.
I agree, this post is spot on. I just shake my head when people talk about his stud fee being too high? I think he has earned it. Heck, he's even ran at the NFR himself, let alone full brother to Bozo, sire of Stingray, and sired horses who have broke arena records, plus he is such a good athlete he's competed professionally at the pro rodeo level in three different events..... So I guess I just personally don't see a problem with the stud fee.. I don't know if I understand the "User friendly" comment. Maybe it's not the horse thats lacking, but the horsemanship that's lacking?? Not meaning to flame but I honestly do not understand that. Dinero, FG, Sun Frost, Driftwood, all those great lines just make me think of a horse with a great mind? Please don't read that in a bad tone, just discussing    |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | *almost there* - 2014-07-03 10:22 PM tebar - 2014-07-03 2:38 PM The talk on fg is his strong maternal side,with that being said who has the better mom? Was FG not advertised as being related to Bozo? I'm just trying to fiqure out if Dinero or FG has the better dam? I also think the owners have had very different plans for the horses. Potter's want versitile horses and aren't that worried about futurities, if they were I can qurantee the out come would be different. FG is in it for the futurities and $'s. Neither is wrong it's just the difference in one owner and the other. I have yet to see a son or daughter of FG do what Stingray has done in the rodeo world, but have not seen futurity horses by him done what the FG have done. I would like to know how many starters they each had and what they got done. Not just the ones that have won money. Like the race horses # of starters # of money earners etc. I agree, this post is spot on. I just shake my head when people talk about his stud fee being too high? I think he has earned it. Heck, he's even ran at the NFR himself, let alone full brother to Bozo, sire of Stingray, and sired horses who have broke arena records, plus he is such a good athlete he's competed professionally at the pro rodeo level in three different events..... So I guess I just personally don't see a problem with the stud fee.. I don't know if I understand the "User friendly" comment. Maybe it's not the horse thats lacking, but the horsemanship that's lacking?? Not meaning to flame but I honestly do not understand that. Dinero, FG, Sun Frost, Driftwood, all those great lines just make me think of a horse with a great mind? Please don't read that in a bad tone, just discussing
The comment was made that his stud fee was very high before he was proven and is why many people passed on him in the beginning. Value is Value.
Far as user friendly..That was my comment. Take for example the sons of FWF that are standing at stud and are running. I've been around numerous ones and you would never know they are studs. They are just easy to get along with and are people pleasers. I've seen and owned a gelded son that would go out and babysit a timid rider and then go back and win the 1-D. That is a user friendly horse and why wouldn't anyone want one of those over a broncy horse? I love it when I hear people talk about their young horses that just seemed to go out and train themselves. |
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Location: Prosser, WA | Alamo1 - 2014-07-03 11:13 AM
That is a common sense statement.
What i was looking for with this question was a good debate and not a lot of hate and nasty comments.
I think both horses are great, equally great.Â
Just wanted to know about the lack of buzz about DineroÂ
 I think you got just what you asked for. I didn't see any snarky posts just ones that differ from your opinion. But you asked for our opinions and that's what you got. No more no less. I'm sure you will have lots of fun with your Dinero babies and that is great too. |
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Location: Prosser, WA | Itsme - 2014-07-04 6:34 AM
FGs and FWF are like illegal immigrants, they are flooding our country at an alarming rate...
But not Dash Ta Fame? LOL. You just don't like blondes? |
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Location: My own little world! | kakbarrelracer - 2014-07-05 6:56 AM
Itsme - 2014-07-04 6:34 AM
FGs and FWF are like illegal immigrants, they are flooding our country at an alarming rate...
But not Dash Ta Fame? LOL. You just don't like blondes?
 
Tee hee.............
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