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Lobo
Reg. Sep 2003
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2014-07-18 9:31 PM
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RE: Malaysia Airlines having a crappy year
You just got to get mean and mean it.
Location: Arkansas
VonDigger - 2014-07-18 8:39 PM
Farrierlady - 2014-07-18 8:28 PM
Okay... I'll tell the pilots that fed me this info they are wrong...including my husband.
That how it was explained to me by a fighter pilot LOL. Agree to disagree.
And yes Bibs I do remember that.
Gee Von Digger, did you sleep at a Motel Six?
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VonDigger
Reg. Jul 2007
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2014-07-18 9:43 PM
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RE: Malaysia Airlines having a crappy year
Got to have my Pepsi
Posts: 6252
Location: Baden, PA
LMAO, no, but they still left the light on for me.
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
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2014-07-20 12:56 AM
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RE: Malaysia Airlines having a crappy year
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Location: SE Louisiana
VonDigger - 2014-07-18 8:27 PM
Farrierlady - 2014-07-18 5:55 PM
VonDigger - 2014-07-18 5:48 PM
Farrierlady - 2014-07-18 5:38 PM
The first Malaysian Airliner that disappeared into the ocean was actually headed to China, not Amsterdam. Â The Pro Russian Ukraines is who they believe shot this one down and they "thought" it was a cargo plane, not a passenger plane. Â They had already shot down 2 cargo planes prior to this.
Very sad.Â
With the radar used to guide the missles, it would have been identified as a commercial jet
(AKA civilian
).  There is no way to mistake it as a military plane.Â
We can agree to disagree on this one. Â Radar detects size, not the call number. Â Military
(missile
) radar is quite different than radar that air traffic control uses. Â So, yes, it can easily be mistaken for a cargo plane.
Â
I should have expounded on this a little more. In the black box, all airplanes carry a trasponder that the radar, military planes have 2. The first transponder marks the plane as either civilian or military, the 2nd marks a military plane by country
(freind of foe
). When the missle locks onto a target before launch, it first looks for the #1 transponder signal to tell if the plane is civilian or military, once it is determined military it looks for the 2nd signal to tell wether friend or foe. This can be over riden to hit any airborne target. The missle used was the latest incarnation of the BUK missle or SA-11.
It was my understanding that all civilian aircraft, even the little Cessnas, carry an IFF and have for a long time. I don't know all the goodies the military aircraft have but they do have a radar detector that lets the pilot know if a missile targeting radar hits them.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
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2014-07-20 9:22 AM
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RE: Malaysia Airlines having a crappy year
Accident Prone
Posts: 22277
Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR
All aircraft send out a transponder number that is identifiable on radar. VFR
(visual flight rules
) aircraft squawk 1200, IFR
(Instrument Flight Rules, which commercial aircraft would be
) squawk an individually assigned number, which is paired with its tail number in the computer system. There is no reason to mistake commercial aircraft for military.
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