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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-08-19 3:58 PM
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My thoughts are that the National Guard should have been called in after the first night of looting and stationed on the roof tops. They should have made it known....If you loot......WE SHOOT !!!!!  I don't care what color you are......I feel bad for the honest hardworking shop owners that are taking the brunt of this fiasco.

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Southtxponygirl
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rodeomom3 - 2014-08-19 3:45 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-19 3:35 PM
Itsme - 2014-08-19 3:28 PM I just trad LEOs shot another guy in St Louis...
I feel so sorry for the good people that have to live there and have to put up with all this mess. I can not picture having to live in this horror worrying about my family while the looters run the streets..
Me too, I have watched video of the citizens of Ferguson trying to protect the stores and stop the looters. 

What would happen to a family man if he did shot one of these looters while protecting his family or store? These protestors are asking for trouble and want trouble, many prayers for the people of Ferguson.  
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Itsme
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:13 PM
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MS2011 - 2014-08-19 3:35 PM

Itsme - 2014-08-19 10:32 AM
Itsme - 2014-08-19 12:15 AM This is exactly what our govt wants. These shop owners are too afraid to protect their own buildings due to lawsuits and jail time so they become dependent on govt to come to the rescue. We need the shop owners to hole up and shoot anyone coming into their shops with bad intentions, if they did this it would be over in one night.
How can you guys dislike this? Too much truth? Y'all want big govt to save you from the scary blackman?

I'm having difficulty following your train of thought.Β  You post once seeming to support the looters, but then again saying the store owners should take things into their own hands?Β  Which is it?

For the record, the scariest black man we've seen yet is sitting in the white house.Β  I don't give a damn about color, you act like a thug, then expect to get treated as such.

I really don't think the cop made a mistake, he was justified in shooting a low life criminal.

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I dont support the looters, but if I were always harassed for frivolous bs my entire life I too would take to the street at some point , but I would use force...

I guess im just a little different than most, I dont want leos to protect me from looters and sure as hell dont want the national guard involved, thats why we have the 2nd...Like I SAID BEFORE, the govt loves it when we are helpless and dependent on them.
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-08-19 4:17 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-19 3:58 PM

rodeomom3 - 2014-08-19 3:45 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2014-08-19 3:35 PM
Itsme - 2014-08-19 3:28 PM I just trad LEOs shot another guy in St Louis...
I feel so sorry for the good people that have to live there and have to put up with all this mess. I can not picture having to live in this horror worrying about my family while the looters run the streets..
Me too, I have watched video of the citizens of Ferguson trying to protect the stores and stop the looters.Β 

What would happen to a family man if he did shot one of these looters while protecting his family or store? These protestors are asking for trouble and want trouble, many prayers for the people of Ferguson. Β 

He should be given a medal, but who knows in todays America, it might be illegal to protect yourself and property in ferguson.
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2014-08-19 4:19 PM
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NJJ - 2014-08-19 3:58 PM

My thoughts are that the National Gaurd should have been called inΒ after the first night of looting and stationed on the roof tops. They should have made it known....If you loot......WE SHOOT !!!!! Β I don't care what color you are......I feel bad for the honest hardworking shop owners that are taking the brunt of this fiasco.

Thats not American! You guys would have loved Nazi Germany....
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Itsme
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:22 PM
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I did just read ISIS cut off the head of an American journalist and posted the video for all to see...
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-08-19 4:25 PM
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Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:19 PM
NJJ - 2014-08-19 3:58 PM My thoughts are that the National Guard should have been called in after the first night of looting and stationed on the roof tops. They should have made it known....If you loot......WE SHOOT !!!!!  I don't care what color you are......I feel bad for the honest hardworking shop owners that are taking the brunt of this fiasco.
Thats not American! You guys would have loved Nazi Germany....
I beg to differ......The National Guard (state militias) are authorized by the Constitution of the United States. The Constitution recognized the existing state militias, and gave them vital roles to fill: "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasion." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 15).  

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NJJ
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:30 PM
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Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:22 PM I did just read ISIS cut off the head of an American journalist and posted the video for all to see...

That reporter (Foley) has been missing since November of 2012..... 
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CurlyQ
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2014-08-19 4:40 PM
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 They're slaves to the handouts and don't even realize that that's where their entitlement attitude comes from. Everyone needs a purpose in life and when you don't work for anything and receive a paycheck for your efforts, there's no sense of pride and your beholden to the system. Generation after generation,it's a crutch, an excuse to loot and steal and destroy other peoples livelihoods because they ( looters/thieves) don't own anything so what difference does it make when it gets destroyed? I think that evidence is pretty damning that this shooting was justified in that the policeman was in fear of his life. How would any of us handle this? Hopefully well never know. I haven't formed much of an opinion until today simply waiting on reports to come in and as far as the looters, they need to crack down on them. Jail etc is going to be more effective rather that reasoning with thugs. Lastly, lol.  The media needs to leave. None of us need minute by minute reports. Keeps people pissed and in turmoil....
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Itsme
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:44 PM
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NJJ - 2014-08-19 4:30 PM

Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:22 PM I did just read ISIS cut off the head of an American journalist and posted the video for all to see...

That reporter (Foley)Β has been missing since November of 2012.....Β 



I read he "walked in" in 2012...

Was he just beheaded?
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Itsme
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:45 PM
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Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:19 PM
NJJ - 2014-08-19 3:58 PM My thoughts are that the National Guard should have been called inΒ after the first night of looting and stationed on the roof tops. They should have made it known....If you loot......WE SHOOT !!!!! Β I don't care what color you are......I feel bad for the honest hardworking shop owners that are taking the brunt of this fiasco.
Thats not American! You guys would have loved Nazi Germany....
I beg to differ......The National Guard (state militias)Β are authorized by the Constitution of the United States. The Constitution recognized the existing state militias, and gave them vital roles to fill: "to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasion." (Article I, Section 8, Clause 15). Β 

Im not getting into a copy and paste contest over this, protect yourself and dont rely upon the govt to do it.
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-08-19 4:46 PM
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....but the police just keep screwing up....

Three journalists from German newspapers were taken into custody on Monday evening. Two of them, Ansgar Graw and Frank Herrmann of the newspaper Die Welt, were detained for three hours and then released without any charges.

"This was a very new experience," Graw wrote, according to an English-language translation of his German-language account. "I've been in several conflict zones: I was in the civil war regions in Georgia, the Gaza strip, illegally visited the Kaliningrad region when travel to the Soviet Union was still strictly prohibited for westerners, I've been in Iraq, Vietnam and in China, I've met Cuba dissidents. But to be arrested and yelled at and be rudely treated by police? For that I had to travel to Ferguson and St. Louis in the United States of America."
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jbhoot
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:58 PM
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komet. - 2014-08-19 4:46 PM

....but the police just keep screwing up....

Three journalists from German newspapers were taken into custody on Monday evening. Two of them, Ansgar Graw and Frank Herrmann of the newspaper Die Welt, were detained for three hours and then released without any charges.

"This was a very new experience," Graw wrote, according to an English-language translation of his German-language account. "I've been in several conflict zones: I was in the civil war regions in Georgia, the Gaza strip, illegally visited the Kaliningrad region when travel to the Soviet Union was still strictly prohibited for westerners, I've been in Iraq, Vietnam and in China, I've met Cuba dissidents. But to be arrested and yelled at and be rudely treated by police? For that I had to travel to Ferguson and St. Louis in the United States of America."

With this I have to agree with you Komet. No leadership by anyone in this whole thing from the Police all the way to the Governor. Now the AG is coming to town to add fuel to the fire.
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CurlyQ
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Posted 2014-08-19 5:04 PM
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jbhoot - 2014-08-19 4:58 PM
komet. - 2014-08-19 4:46 PM ....but the police just keep screwing up.... Three journalists from German newspapers were taken into custody on Monday evening. Two of them, Ansgar Graw and Frank Herrmann of the newspaper Die Welt, were detained for three hours and then released without any charges. "This was a very new experience," Graw wrote, according to an English-language translation of his German-language account. "I've been in several conflict zones: I was in the civil war regions in Georgia, the Gaza strip, illegally visited the Kaliningrad region when travel to the Soviet Union was still strictly prohibited for westerners, I've been in Iraq, Vietnam and in China, I've met Cuba dissidents. But to be arrested and yelled at and be rudely treated by police? For that I had to travel to Ferguson and St. Louis in the United States of America."
With this I have to agree with you Komet. No leadership by anyone in this whole thing from the Police all the way to the Governor. Now the AG is coming to town to add fuel to the fire.

 Why is holder involved in a local issue? I'd think that they had bigger fish to fry.    Rome is burning
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Posted 2014-08-19 5:09 PM
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NJJ - 2014-08-19 4:30 PM
Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:22 PM I did just read ISIS cut off the head of an American journalist and posted the video for all to see...
That reporter (Foley) has been missing since November of 2012..... 

 There's reports from today that he was beheaded.
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NJJ
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Posted 2014-08-19 5:10 PM
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CurlyQ - 2014-08-19 5:04 PM
jbhoot - 2014-08-19 4:58 PM
komet. - 2014-08-19 4:46 PM ....but the police just keep screwing up.... Three journalists from German newspapers were taken into custody on Monday evening. Two of them, Ansgar Graw and Frank Herrmann of the newspaper Die Welt, were detained for three hours and then released without any charges. "This was a very new experience," Graw wrote, according to an English-language translation of his German-language account. "I've been in several conflict zones: I was in the civil war regions in Georgia, the Gaza strip, illegally visited the Kaliningrad region when travel to the Soviet Union was still strictly prohibited for westerners, I've been in Iraq, Vietnam and in China, I've met Cuba dissidents. But to be arrested and yelled at and be rudely treated by police? For that I had to travel to Ferguson and St. Louis in the United States of America."
With this I have to agree with you Komet. No leadership by anyone in this whole thing from the Police all the way to the Governor. Now the AG is coming to town to add fuel to the fire.
 Why is holder involved in a local issue? I'd think that they had bigger fish to fry.    Rome is burning

Because Sharpton and "Civil Rights" leaders are screaming that his civil rights have been violated........
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NJJ
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Posted 2014-08-19 5:12 PM
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CurlyQ - 2014-08-19 5:09 PM
NJJ - 2014-08-19 4:30 PM
Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:22 PM I did just read ISIS cut off the head of an American journalist and posted the video for all to see...
That reporter (Foley) has been missing since November of 2012..... 
 There's reports from today that he was beheaded.

The video was "shown" today......still unknown when the execution happened. There was another journalist in the pictures. That journalist has been missing since 2013.  
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CurlyQ
Reg. Sep 2006
Posted 2014-08-19 5:14 PM
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NJJ - 2014-08-19 5:12 PM
CurlyQ - 2014-08-19 5:09 PM
NJJ - 2014-08-19 4:30 PM
Itsme - 2014-08-19 4:22 PM I did just read ISIS cut off the head of an American journalist and posted the video for all to see...
That reporter (Foley) has been missing since November of 2012..... 
 There's reports from today that he was beheaded.
The video was "shown" today......still unknown when the execution happened. There was another journalist in the pictures. That journalist has been missing since 2013.  

 Gotcha. Hate watching the news.
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komet.
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Posted 2014-08-19 5:18 PM
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jbhoot - 2014-08-19 4:58 PM
komet. - 2014-08-19 4:46 PM ....but the police just keep screwing up.... Three journalists from German newspapers were taken into custody on Monday evening. Two of them, Ansgar Graw and Frank Herrmann of the newspaper Die Welt, were detained for three hours and then released without any charges. "This was a very new experience," Graw wrote, according to an English-language translation of his German-language account. "I've been in several conflict zones: I was in the civil war regions in Georgia, the Gaza strip, illegally visited the Kaliningrad region when travel to the Soviet Union was still strictly prohibited for westerners, I've been in Iraq, Vietnam and in China, I've met Cuba dissidents. But to be arrested and yelled at and be rudely treated by police? For that I had to travel to Ferguson and St. Louis in the United States of America."
With this I have to agree with you Komet. No leadership by anyone in this whole thing from the Police all the way to the Governor. Now the AG is coming to town to add fuel to the fire.

Β Why is holder involved in a local issue? I'd think that they had bigger fish to fry. Β  Β Rome is burning

Holder is involved because Obozo sent him there.. Make no mistake. No mater what the grand jury return, the feds will come down on this cop in some form or another.
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Posted 2014-08-19 5:23 PM
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I am sorry but this whole thing ticks me off... working within law enforcement, its sad how little respect they have. So many people are throwing stones at LE yet then they need help, who do they call? These officers have families, friends, children, pets to go home to and they have to articulate every move they make and put themselves in danger everday for others. I had an officer who ran into a fully englufed home and drug the home owners out. Do you think it made news? nope.

Racism goes both ways and I can tell you, I take calls from african american males frequently and i cant tell you how hateful they are towards white people. Racism goes both ways and you bet your ass LE profiles. HOWEVER, people are mistaken that its goes both ways. If you are white in a primarily black, hispanic neighborhood you are going to be suspicious.

I pray for this officer and his agency. His career will forever change. You ask any officer, opening fire and killing someone isnt easy on your conscious no matter how big of a scum bag they are.
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