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| Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
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Location: Montana | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 5:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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Location: your guess is as good as mine | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 5:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
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| I have lived in CA, MI and now FL and barrel racing itself is a WHOLE different world in each place. "Exhibitions" really threw me for a loop when I first moved to FL. You literally all line up before the barrel race and work your way toward the arena. Hand the gate person a ticket and then do your thing. There is no dragging at all, so if you want to run, you may have some seriously deep/chopped up ground.
I remember when there were no TO's or arena use before the runs. You could TO after and you could ride the pattern after, but never before a run. Your horse had to know how to run fresh. This was CA.
Most of the time here in FL, I won't even get to the race until right before start time, because I hate waiting and waiting and waiting for all of the exhibitions and then the 100 plus runners in the open alone. My horses are just going to have to run without getting in the arena before hand.
Yeah, we also warmed up in the arena before the barrel race, since it wasn't being used for exhibitions.
I get it though, it's a HUGE money maker for the arena operators. $5/ea times 200+ tickets. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:33 PM Its serious up here. Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-29 9:17 AM
Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:33 PM Its serious up here.  Hard enough to exhibition colts at all but try doing it with pack of coyotes chasing the barrel setters across the pen.....Â
LOVE it ...
Gotta be tough to run up North! LOL!
OP - AWESOME video!!! I needed that this morning! |
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| The time onlys in northern nevada are horrible. Its one person in the arena but the 60 second rule doesnt apply to all individuals. There is one particular gal that I try to beat to the gate if I see her at a race. She will bring 3 colts and literally spend at least 5-10 in the arena and practice. She loves to slow down the process. Ugh! We have closed arenas up here because the local arenas cant be set up for alley ways.
Question.......Do you guys start on time? Even if there are another 10 gals wanting to do time onlys? Ive seen races start on time and allow time onlys to continue after the race and Ive also seen time onlys make the race delayed for an hour. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | We start after exhibitions down here... the up side is, I have never been late for a barrel race, lol. |
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| I've run in all the states mentioned in the video, I'm from Wyoming. I've seen time onlies and exhibitions done in all the ways mentioned. Time slots are definitely the way to go! I will say that the large scale Texas producers have their act together like nobody else. I'm spoiled for life after 4 years down here. |
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | I thought the video was funny! Foreign to the way I know exhibitions, here in Texas, BUT, I just saw a video on Facebook of an exhibition in Texas ---people were riding in the arena at the back, but some would drift further towards the alleyway side of the arena- as the rider was doing their exhibition and turned the first barrel, the horse took off bucking to the 2nd barrel and threw the rider --- GET THIS - the rider was stepped on by someeone else's horse when she was thrown - the other rider was riding along the fence down by the second barrel, just as the exhbibition rider made their way to the 2nd barrel. It was basically a collision of the 2 horses and the exhibition rider was the one who got thrown and stepped on (but not by her own horse)!!!
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Location: North Dakota | Video was HILARIOUS, by the way.
I think there are pro's and con's to doing it both ways.
At some of the jackpots I go to, some of them do a ticket system. You could buy up to 3 (one for each "run"). You had to stand in line forever to get into the arena (not to mention that your horse is no longer warmed up after you've stood in line for 30 minutes) and then the barrel race would usually start late in order to let everyone have their practice run that wanted one. The barrels were not on the markers and you weren't given a time, but you are the only one in the arena.
Most of the jackpots I do have time slots where up to 10 people are in the arena together for 15 minutes. The nice thing about this is if I sign up for the 11:00 AM slot, then that is when I can have my horse warmed up and ready and be done in 15 minutes. Of course, it's hard to simulate a real run, and you sometimes have to dodge people riding around.
I was just at a barrel race yesterday and when it was over, they announced they had one person who wanted to do a time-only. The person ran, they gave their time. Barrels were on the markers.
So I think if you are trying to get a futurity colt going, most of the gals and producers here "up North" would probably not have a problem with a few people doing a time-only at the end of the race to get a time on their colt.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I've done the ticket system at one barrel race, but I didn't like it. I also did exhibition at a horse show once where you just went whenever you could and it was terrible. From reading the other ways, I'm glad we do them like we do here. Each barrel racer signs up for a slot and they call out what page they're on and call people in order. They do try and make everyone stick to the sixty second rule. You can sign up for as many as you want and in any order. |
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Location: Moving soon..... | Why can't we just laugh at it and move on? No one is dissing anyone. and...who pooped in your Post Toasties??
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Location: Way up North | The video and Frenchie are spot on! You are lucky if you can get in there and there aren't ruts big enough to lose a large shetland in and a dog doesn't zip in to heel you along and we definately don't run on stakes or with a timer. A few producers have started to do a seperate exhibition spot for next years futurity colts and they do run on stakes with a timer so that is really nice! On the upside your horse sure gets seasond to distractions and watching their feet in a hurry! |
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| In my area timed onlies are done prior to the jackpot, not on the markers, and up to the host either one trip around the barrel, or a certain amount of time.
How we buy them is different too, sometimes we buy a chip/ticket and wait in line, sometimes we buy a time slot, and sometimes we prepurchase when we send in entries. The electric eye is never out.
There are many discussions that have occurred, the highlights I have heard, is if the barrels are on the markers, this is giving an advantage to the horses that have purchased timed onlies. Having the barrels on the markers and not working the ground every 5 wrecks the ground for the barrel race. If you harrow every 5 tractor every 25-50 this takes time, and man power and reduces the revenue brought in by the timed onlies.
We have exhibitions after the barrel race, if you have a futurity horse you want to see if the horse is clocking this is an option it is run just like the jackpot raked, time announced, and majority of the time it is recorded.
The argument having the exhibition at the end is the horses eligible to win money are offered better ground then the people just paying exhibition. If you have a bad run in the jackpot, you can also pay for an exhibition and correct the mistake.
For our big runs/futurities most of these will not have the exhibitions, but luckily if one wants to know how a horse is running in that certain arena there are jackpots at the arena that offer exhibitions throughout the year.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | NJJ - 2014-09-28 9:41 AM Even though we are continually told that things are MUCH better in Texas……shame on you for “dissing” the barrel racers from the “North”. You “might” have seen videos of such things but it is NOT the norm. Yes, there are places that sell 20 minute time slots; yes, there are places where there is an open arena BEFORE the exhibitions and yes, we do have small pens just because we don't live in boondock junctions. I have NEVER made an exhibition run with other people IN the arena….so please, do the “northerners” a favor and don’t make “blanket assumptions”.
Thank you Norma. Around here we have exhibitions. 60 seconds long, barrels aren't on the stakes and no one is in the arena other than you. You get one time through the pattern. A lot of jackpots are also doing time slots where you buy 10 - 20 minutes depending on the producer. Yes there's more than one person in the pen at that time but you know that when you're buying it. I prefer the time slots as my horse doesn't need to run the pattern - she just needs to look around a bit, and then I walk and trot the pattern doing some Connie Combs drills. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Frenchie - 2014-09-28 6:27 PM I'm from way up north and I don't think you southerners really understand the deal. Have you ever tried to exhibition up here? You HAVE to be in the arena while the others are going, if you stand outside you run the risk of a serous goring by one of the buffalo that still roam free. Add that to the fact only the big cities have power you just really have to hurry everyone through so you can get home before dark. This isn't just so you can see but also because it gets SO COLD up here 10 months a year that you can freeze to death after sun sets.
Our indoor pens are indeed tiny. You try building one of those things out of logs you cut yourself, thats all we have up here. As far as time onlies we'd probably do more but the gal running the little glass deal with sand in it gets tired of flipping it over everytime a new rider comes in the arena. Can't blame her, she usually also has to scoop all the snow out of the barrel path before the first runner can go....
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