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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 8:16 AM jbhoot - 2014-09-30 8:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-30 9:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-09-30 7:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-29 11:13 PM The only people that are better off are those who are rich and knee deep in the stock market, or those on welfare. The middle class who work their asses off to scrimp and save and live paycheck to paycheck are the ones who are hurting. Fuel prices, food prices, and of course everybody's favorite...... Higher taxes to pay for those who are standing in line at walmart with their ebt cards talking on their Obama iphone.
I voted FOS in the poll. He is a narcissist. Of course he thinks America is better off after he took control. All he sees are puppy dogs and kittens. And his followers are still fall down drunk on the koolade.
How so??????no they arent. trust me.AND the stocks Plummeted and might have came up a fraction but still lost asses in them..and alot of wealthy worked their asses off to get there and has lost alot as well..
welfare I can agree on.. He won't be smiling when the federal reserve stops propping it up.
I just love how Libs only focus on the "positive". Even if that positive is a false positive. They can't see that. When you ask a Liberal how it's so great they tell you half truths and spin the facts. Or the old stand by...... Well Bush did it. That one drives me the most insane. Because Bush did it, does it make it ok? That's the weakest argument yet.
In all fairness……..the economy DID go into a deep recession during Bush’s tenure (2007) and was tumbling down long before that time. And from that, it has never recovered ….Has this administration helped it recover….I don’t think so……but to "pooh-pooh" Bush's (or the Republican) responsibillity is asinine too! |
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Location: East Texas | Do I think the country is worse off? Of course I do. Everyone wants to blame O, but there are 500 other elected officials that have more pull and power than he does. The real problem is that a majority of our country voted these fools into office.
Now with that said. My family is better off than it was 8 years ago and I am neither extremely rich or whatever else you guys were claiming it benefited...... Not questioning how hard anyone is working, but what you are working hard at. I tell my HS students all the time that they can walk out the door with no HS degree and make $40/hr with little to no capital investment. I know right now that companies around me a begging for truck drivers, and if you are willing to relocate, you can make $1000/day.
Again, I think our country is worse off, and I hate paying over 50% of my income in taxes. I started my herd with 12 old cows I bought off a local guy that was selling out. Bitching about fuel prices? Go to work in the petroleum industry and cash in on the boom. Find a way.....I was talking to an plumbing contractor the other day who is a multi-millionaire. He immigrated here about 20 years ago with only the clothes he was wearing and could not speak the language.......crap, everyone on here is ahead of that guy when he started. My cousin who has a college degree felt the economic pressure several years ago started a rural trash pick up business. He is now bringing in $30K/ month.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NJJ - 2014-10-01 9:13 AM
rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 8:16 AM jbhoot - 2014-09-30 8:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-30 9:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-09-30 7:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-29 11:13 PM The only people that are better off are those who are rich and knee deep in the stock market, or those on welfare. The middle class who work their asses off to scrimp and save and live paycheck to paycheck are the ones who are hurting. Fuel prices, food prices, and of course everybody's favorite...... Higher taxes to pay for those who are standing in line at walmart with their ebt cards talking on their Obama iphone.
I voted FOS in the poll. He is a narcissist. Of course he thinks America is better off after he took control. All he sees are puppy dogs and kittens. And his followers are still fall down drunk on the koolade.
How so??????no they arent. trust me.AND the stocks Plummeted and might have came up a fraction but still lost asses in them..and alot of wealthy worked their asses off to get there and has lost alot as well..
welfare I can agree on.. He won't be smiling when the federal reserve stops propping it up.
I just love how Libs only focus on the "positive". Even if that positive is a false positive. They can't see that. When you ask a Liberal how it's so great they tell you half truths and spin the facts. Or the old stand by...... Â Well Bush did it. That one drives me the most insane. Because Bush did it, does it make it ok? That's the weakest argument yet.Â
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I agree. The best thing that could happen, politically speaking, is for a group of people to embrace the idea of intellectual honesty that is without regard to party affiliation. If that group of people happened to be conservative and Republican, that would eventually be the best thing that could happen to the Republican Party. Republicans who are true conservatives really should display brutal intellectual honesty, and focus first on the hypocrites and scoundrels within their own party. Once that is established, they would have also established some genuine respect and credibility. For example, how Mark Sanford managed to get elected to congress is an enigma to me. He was a liar and a crook who abused his power and displayed some of the most blatant hypocrisy one can imagine while he was governor of South Carolina. It's obvious to me that this country is crying out for THIS kind of change. That's probably the only way we will ever get the most important change we need.....term limits. |
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Location: Online | NJJ - 2014-10-01 8:13 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 8:16 AM jbhoot - 2014-09-30 8:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-30 9:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-09-30 7:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-29 11:13 PM The only people that are better off are those who are rich and knee deep in the stock market, or those on welfare. The middle class who work their asses off to scrimp and save and live paycheck to paycheck are the ones who are hurting. Fuel prices, food prices, and of course everybody's favorite...... Higher taxes to pay for those who are standing in line at walmart with their ebt cards talking on their Obama iphone.
I voted FOS in the poll. He is a narcissist. Of course he thinks America is better off after he took control. All he sees are puppy dogs and kittens. And his followers are still fall down drunk on the koolade.
How so??????no they arent. trust me.AND the stocks Plummeted and might have came up a fraction but still lost asses in them..and alot of wealthy worked their asses off to get there and has lost alot as well..
welfare I can agree on.. He won't be smiling when the federal reserve stops propping it up.
I just love how Libs only focus on the "positive". Even if that positive is a false positive. They can't see that. When you ask a Liberal how it's so great they tell you half truths and spin the facts. Or the old stand by...... Well Bush did it. That one drives me the most insane. Because Bush did it, does it make it ok? That's the weakest argument yet.
Yes, this is true. But who took over Congress in 2007? I see a direct correlation......
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2014-09-30 9:01 AM
I think alot of americans are independent and can handle anything thrown at them, that is why our country is so amazing. I have nothing nice to say of Obama, other than.....I will make the best I can of the situation that was given to us, no matter who is president. Â
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Location: East Texas | The so called recession started with the housing market crash. You know what cause the house bubble and crash? Govt. programs.....
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 9:33 AM NJJ - 2014-10-01 8:13 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 8:16 AM jbhoot - 2014-09-30 8:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-30 9:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-09-30 7:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-29 11:13 PM The only people that are better off are those who are rich and knee deep in the stock market, or those on welfare. The middle class who work their asses off to scrimp and save and live paycheck to paycheck are the ones who are hurting. Fuel prices, food prices, and of course everybody's favorite...... Higher taxes to pay for those who are standing in line at walmart with their ebt cards talking on their Obama iphone.
I voted FOS in the poll. He is a narcissist. Of course he thinks America is better off after he took control. All he sees are puppy dogs and kittens. And his followers are still fall down drunk on the koolade.
How so??????no they arent. trust me.AND the stocks Plummeted and might have came up a fraction but still lost asses in them..and alot of wealthy worked their asses off to get there and has lost alot as well..
welfare I can agree on.. He won't be smiling when the federal reserve stops propping it up.
I just love how Libs only focus on the "positive". Even if that positive is a false positive. They can't see that. When you ask a Liberal how it's so great they tell you half truths and spin the facts. Or the old stand by...... Well Bush did it. That one drives me the most insane. Because Bush did it, does it make it ok? That's the weakest argument yet.
TRUE…..however, you need to look back further than 2007……..There is certainly enough BLAME to go around for BOTH parties. I agree with Scott's..….that WE, the people, are the stupid ones since we keep electing both Republican and Democrat dumbA$$s that only take care of themselves. After they are elected, any promises, etc go out the window and they “pander” to the “money”……..instead of what is best for the country. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | CrossDRanch - 2014-10-01 9:50 AM The so called recession started with the housing market crash. You know what cause the house bubble and crash? Govt. programs.....
The government certainly played a role in the recession with mortgage, banking, and energy policies, but there was also a large segment of the population living STUPIDLY, like the good times would never end and the high values in the stock and housing markets were justified, rather than a bubble ripe for popping. There are some farmers getting caught in the same trap right now, after the last few years of prosperity and high land values. They convinced themselves it was the new normal. Ha! |
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Location: Online | NJJ - 2014-10-01 9:02 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 9:33 AM NJJ - 2014-10-01 8:13 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 8:16 AM jbhoot - 2014-09-30 8:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-30 9:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-09-30 7:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-29 11:13 PM The only people that are better off are those who are rich and knee deep in the stock market, or those on welfare. The middle class who work their asses off to scrimp and save and live paycheck to paycheck are the ones who are hurting. Fuel prices, food prices, and of course everybody's favorite...... Higher taxes to pay for those who are standing in line at walmart with their ebt cards talking on their Obama iphone.
I voted FOS in the poll. He is a narcissist. Of course he thinks America is better off after he took control. All he sees are puppy dogs and kittens. And his followers are still fall down drunk on the koolade.
How so??????no they arent. trust me.AND the stocks Plummeted and might have came up a fraction but still lost asses in them..and alot of wealthy worked their asses off to get there and has lost alot as well..
welfare I can agree on.. He won't be smiling when the federal reserve stops propping it up.
I just love how Libs only focus on the "positive". Even if that positive is a false positive. They can't see that. When you ask a Liberal how it's so great they tell you half truths and spin the facts. Or the old stand by...... Well Bush did it. That one drives me the most insane. Because Bush did it, does it make it ok? That's the weakest argument yet.
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Location: Online | Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-01 9:12 AM CrossDRanch - 2014-10-01 9:50 AM The so called recession started with the housing market crash. You know what cause the house bubble and crash? Govt. programs..... The government certainly played a role in the recession with mortgage, banking, and energy policies, but there was also a large segment of the population living STUPIDLY, like the good times would never end and the high values in the stock and housing markets were justified, rather than a bubble ripe for popping. There are some farmers getting caught in the same trap right now, after the last few years of prosperity and high land values. They convinced themselves it was the new normal. Ha!
This would be a lot easier if we had a like button....
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Location: East Texas | three 4 luck is on to something
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-01 10:12 AM CrossDRanch - 2014-10-01 9:50 AM The so called recession started with the housing market crash. You know what cause the house bubble and crash? Govt. programs..... The government certainly played a role in the recession with mortgage, banking, and energy policies, but there was also a large segment of the population living STUPIDLY, like the good times would never end and the high values in the stock and housing markets were justified, rather than a bubble ripe for popping. There are some farmers getting caught in the same trap right now, after the last few years of prosperity and high land values. They convinced themselves it was the new normal. Ha!
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-10-01 10:12 AM
CrossDRanch - 2014-10-01 9:50 AM The so called recession started with the housing market crash. You know what cause the house bubble and crash? Govt. programs.....
 The government certainly played a role in the recession with mortgage, banking, and energy policies, but there was also a large segment of the population living STUPIDLY, like the good times would never end and the high values in the stock and housing markets were justified, rather than a bubble ripe for popping.  There are some farmers getting caught in the same trap right now, after the last few years of prosperity and high land values.  They convinced themselves it was the new normal.  Ha! Â
If you look at the history of all the recessions that this country has had they all where lead by the bottom falling out of the housing market. You can go back as far as the early 1800 hundreds this has been true. And every time the Government has tried the control this market it has failed. |
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Location: Florida.. | we were alot safer before obama got in there and there wasnt so much danger and chaos.at least we knew bush was american and not allowing our enemies to gain control of our weapons and $$ and into our country. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-10-01 11:55 PM we were alot safer before obama got in there and there wasnt so much danger and chaos.at least we knew bush was american and not allowing our enemies to gain control of our weapons and $$ and into our country.
THIS! I don't even feel like THIS prez is on OUR side! He's about as far from being an American as a Chinese pug! |
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| Griz - 2014-10-02 5:34 AM Bibliafarm - 2014-10-01 11:55 PM we were alot safer before obama got in there and there wasnt so much danger and chaos.at least we knew bush was american and not allowing our enemies to gain control of our weapons and $$ and into our country. THIS! I don't even feel like THIS prez is on OUR side! He's about as far from being an American as a Chinese pug!
His ideology of America is the world's bully and he is the one to change all that is stopping him in his tracks. You have to deal with the hand that is dealt you and he trying his hardest not to. He takes no responsibility for any failures. "I promised to end the war in Iraq and I did." "I killed Osama Bin Laden" "Al queda is decimated and on the run" When it comes to Isis: The CIA under estimated, failed intelligence- no I or we any where in his statements. He had daily briefings on ISIS and the danger presented by them. He has ignored all advice from the military brass for years. Maybe we would not need boots on the ground now if he had paid attention to the briefings, followed the military's advice and not taken a passive approach to the middle east.
His passive approach is leading us down a scary path.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Griz - 2014-10-02 5:34 AM
Bibliafarm - 2014-10-01 11:55 PM we were alot safer before obama got in there and there wasnt so much danger and chaos.at least we knew bush was american and not allowing our enemies to gain control of our weapons and $$ and into our country.Â
THIS! I don't even feel like THIS prez is on OUR side! He's about as far from being an American as a Chinese pug!Â
That's an insult to Chinese pugs. |
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Location: East Texas | One of the things that bugs me is that America has always done it different than the rest of the world. O is trying to make us more like the rest of the world.
Also, politicians treat the symptoms and not the cure. Such as the border. We do not need more at the border. We need to take the incentives away for making the illegals want to come. Take that away and we no longer have a huge border issue |
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Location: Online | A guy on TV today.... Talking about Obama's dropping approval rating. "But, Congress approval is 7%". Um..... I thought this was about Obama? Spin spin spin, change the subject. Nothing to see here folks! Oh look! A squirrel! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | NJJ - 2014-10-01 10:02 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 9:33 AM NJJ - 2014-10-01 8:13 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-10-01 8:16 AM jbhoot - 2014-09-30 8:28 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-30 9:00 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-09-30 7:10 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-09-29 11:13 PM The only people that are better off are those who are rich and knee deep in the stock market, or those on welfare. The middle class who work their asses off to scrimp and save and live paycheck to paycheck are the ones who are hurting. Fuel prices, food prices, and of course everybody's favorite...... Higher taxes to pay for those who are standing in line at walmart with their ebt cards talking on their Obama iphone.
I voted FOS in the poll. He is a narcissist. Of course he thinks America is better off after he took control. All he sees are puppy dogs and kittens. And his followers are still fall down drunk on the koolade.
How so??????no they arent. trust me.AND the stocks Plummeted and might have came up a fraction but still lost asses in them..and alot of wealthy worked their asses off to get there and has lost alot as well..
welfare I can agree on.. He won't be smiling when the federal reserve stops propping it up.
I just love how Libs only focus on the "positive". Even if that positive is a false positive. They can't see that. When you ask a Liberal how it's so great they tell you half truths and spin the facts. Or the old stand by...... Well Bush did it. That one drives me the most insane. Because Bush did it, does it make it ok? That's the weakest argument yet.
Things certainly changed on Sept. 11, 2001 and it wasn't for the better.
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