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 Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | ChicksInferno - 2014-11-05 3:30 PM I wish Merial would realize if they dropped the price more on their product they would probably sell more of it. Really who can afford to treat their horse for 30 days with a product that costs $35/tube. Thats more than what I make in a month! They are missing a huge horse population that wants to do whats best for their horses but are ruled by their income.
Where do you buy it that it cost $35 tube? Ouch!
Do you realize how much money they have tied up in the process of researching to find a carrier that will stay intact through the acid in the stomach, formulating that to find the right mixure.. to be effective but not overly effective so it will get absorbed, then in house research to find the dosage amount to be effective once admistered to the horse to treat/cure the ulcers, then the FDA testing required? I for sure understand their stance on price, considering they only have a certain time frame to recoup money before the patent runs out and gernerics can be made.
I also understand us poor folks trying to buy it, but they don't have it priced that way just to gouge us.
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| Extra-Label Drug Use (ELDU):
"ELDU describes the use of an approved drug in a manner that is not in accordance with the approved labeling, yet meets the conditions set forth by the Animal Medicinal Drug Use Clarification Act of 1994 (AMDUCA) and U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regulations. Deviations from FDA-approved labeling include use in another species, use for a different indication, use at a different dose or frequency, and use via a different route of administration."
https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/FAQs/Pages/ELDU-and-AMDUCA-FAQs.as...
The issue I see here is the claim to treat or prevent a medical condition. Simple solution: change the claims made by the drug manufacturers. It just happened in our town with a company that makes human nutraceuticals. They went too far on their claims and were told to back off by the FDA. Once they did, they were back in production.
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 Banjo and Baby
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Location: South of Canada and North of Mexico | ChicksInferno - 2014-11-05 3:30 PM I wish Merial would realize if they dropped the price more on their product they would probably sell more of it. Really who can afford to treat their horse for 30 days with a product that costs $35/tube. Thats more than what I make in a month! They are missing a huge horse population that wants to do whats best for their horses but are ruled by their income.
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| ChicksInferno - 2014-11-05 4:30 PM
I wish Merial would realize if they dropped the price more on their product they would probably sell more of it. Really who can afford to treat their horse for 30 days with a product that costs $35/tube. Thats more than what I make in a month! They are missing a huge horse population that wants to do whats best for their horses but are ruled by their income.
THIS! I actually just said this SAME thing to my vet this morning while discussing this FDA warning. |
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 Husband Spoiler
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Location: North Dakota | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 12:27 PM linds - 2014-11-05 12:09 PM Can't the companies that received this letter just change the claim to something like 'promotes digestive health' like all the other ulcer supplements out there? As far as I can tell, this is more of a marketing issue that a generic drug issue. Maybe, but then how does one of these companies get the attention of the ulcer treater by saying "digestive health". If I was reading that, I would think it was like a probiotic or something that just helped my horse to better utilize their feed/forage, not treat for ulcers.
That is why you read the ingredients and compare. I never just go by what the product is advertised as. I read the ingredients and learn about what is in the product and why the product does what is says it does. |
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| Just Bring It - 2014-11-06 9:16 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 12:27 PM linds - 2014-11-05 12:09 PM Can't the companies that received this letter just change the claim to something like 'promotes digestive health' like all the other ulcer supplements out there? As far as I can tell, this is more of a marketing issue that a generic drug issue. Maybe, but then how does one of these companies get the attention of the ulcer treater by saying "digestive health". If I was reading that, I would think it was like a probiotic or something that just helped my horse to better utilize their feed/forage, not treat for ulcers.
Which is all well and good that you read the ingredients - but that's exactly what this is about...with products that are not FDA approved, what the label says and what is ACTUALLY in the product are not always the same. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | SuckerForHorses - 2014-11-06 9:23 AM Just Bring It - 2014-11-06 9:16 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 12:27 PM linds - 2014-11-05 12:09 PM Can't the companies that received this letter just change the claim to something like 'promotes digestive health' like all the other ulcer supplements out there? As far as I can tell, this is more of a marketing issue that a generic drug issue. Maybe, but then how does one of these companies get the attention of the ulcer treater by saying "digestive health". If I was reading that, I would think it was like a probiotic or something that just helped my horse to better utilize their feed/forage, not treat for ulcers. Which is all well and good that you read the ingredients - but that's exactly what this is about...with products that are not FDA approved, what the label says and what is ACTUALLY in the product are not always the same.
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 Famous for Not Complaining
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Location: Broxton, Ga | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-04 5:14 PM ChicksInferno - 2014-11-05 3:30 PM I wish Merial would realize if they dropped the price more on their product they would probably sell more of it. Really who can afford to treat their horse for 30 days with a product that costs $35/tube. Thats more than what I make in a month! They are missing a huge horse population that wants to do whats best for their horses but are ruled by their income. Where do you buy it that it cost $35 tube? Ouch!
Do you realize how much money they have tied up in the process of researching to find a carrier that will stay intact through the acid in the stomach, formulating that to find the right mixure.. to be effective but not overly effective so it will get absorbed, then in house research to find the dosage amount to be effective once admistered to the horse to treat/cure the ulcers, then the FDA testing required? I for sure understand their stance on price, considering they only have a certain time frame to recoup money before the patent runs out and gernerics can be made.
I also understand us poor folks trying to buy it, but they don't have it priced that way just to gouge us.
Patents are not cheap either..........unless one has done one you have no clue.......then there is just the cost of the patent maintenance.........that's where we should complain as to the government ripping off companies just because they can..........but I do agree the stuff is HIGH! |
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 BHW's Lance Armstrong 
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 4:14 PM ChicksInferno - 2014-11-05 3:30 PM I wish Merial would realize if they dropped the price more on their product they would probably sell more of it. Really who can afford to treat their horse for 30 days with a product that costs $35/tube. Thats more than what I make in a month! They are missing a huge horse population that wants to do whats best for their horses but are ruled by their income. Where do you buy it that it cost $35 tube? Ouch!
Do you realize how much money they have tied up in the process of researching to find a carrier that will stay intact through the acid in the stomach, formulating that to find the right mixure.. to be effective but not overly effective so it will get absorbed, then in house research to find the dosage amount to be effective once admistered to the horse to treat/cure the ulcers, then the FDA testing required? I for sure understand their stance on price, considering they only have a certain time frame to recoup money before the patent runs out and gernerics can be made.
I also understand us poor folks trying to buy it, but they don't have it priced that way just to gouge us.
ACEINTHEHOLE you are preaching what I was preaching about 8 years ago on here about illegal compounded bute and the ladies chewed my ass up and spit me out. Yep we all spend tons of money to get a drug FDA approved (SUPERIORBUTE POWDER) problem was the vets weren't ethical enough to support it. I have loyal customers but not enough of them. Maybe the FDA is actually doing something. |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-11-06 10:57 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 4:14 PM ChicksInferno - 2014-11-05 3:30 PM I wish Merial would realize if they dropped the price more on their product they would probably sell more of it. Really who can afford to treat their horse for 30 days with a product that costs $35/tube. Thats more than what I make in a month! They are missing a huge horse population that wants to do whats best for their horses but are ruled by their income. Where do you buy it that it cost $35 tube? Ouch!
Do you realize how much money they have tied up in the process of researching to find a carrier that will stay intact through the acid in the stomach, formulating that to find the right mixure.. to be effective but not overly effective so it will get absorbed, then in house research to find the dosage amount to be effective once admistered to the horse to treat/cure the ulcers, then the FDA testing required? I for sure understand their stance on price, considering they only have a certain time frame to recoup money before the patent runs out and gernerics can be made.
I also understand us poor folks trying to buy it, but they don't have it priced that way just to gouge us.
DJG, I am sorry you got chewed up and spit out.. LOL.. I can recall that name, so I am pretty sure I ordered it when I was working for the Equine clinic here in OK... I was the head tech and in charge of all orders and stocking the pharmacy. I supported you Doug! Anyway.. once I went through tech school and learned the laws and regulation on things.. It for sure opened my eyes to a whole new world! |
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