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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Wanna piss someone off? Brag about what you did to them. |
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  Neat Freak
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     Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I also don't like what it is called as it has already been mentioned that Seals work a team. The title instead of man should be MEN. Good that he mentioned his buddies, but still... |
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  More bootie than waist!
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | Gail - 2014-11-12 7:41 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2014-11-12 7:22 PM Wasn't there an entire Seal Team killed off...one by one, some back in Afghanistan, but in situations like it was known where they were. Ambush type deals. I think a bunch were in a helicopter crash.
Yes.
Let's not forget Joe Biden leaked more info than any solider ever did. I believe his leak caused the attack on the Chinook that cost us lives of 38 Americans on August 6. 2011. I attended two of the funerals of the fallen (while share the incredible witness of Seal Matthew Mason another time) Kansas City Royals allowed me to bring the son of the Chief Warrant Officer Bryan Nichols (KIA) to Royals game and attend batting practice. Braydon had barely left his room following the death of his Dad. He spent most his day in a corner crying. When he learned he was going to meet the Royals and attend pre game practice he lit up. At the end of BP, the players and coaches lined up and high fived Braydon. There wasn't a dry eye around. At the end of the game the Royals had a special gift for Braydon. They had a signed bat and ball for him to treasure. It was quite an emotional day. I think I even saw Ned Yost shed a tear.
I've rambled on long enough....sorry..just had to share a memory.
That's a beautiful thing the you and the Royals did.
As far as the original post. I didn't watch it on TV and haven't watched much tv in the past couple weeks but I'll say this. Its a "TEAM MISSION" not one man. We were asked for our personal opinions and my opinion is if this is the guy that actually pulled the trigger he needs to keep his trap shut. It wasn't just him - he had an entire team around him. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I just watched the second part. I can't say whether he did the right thing but I really was glued to the TV and thought the special was well done. I thought he went to great lengths to emphasize that this wasn't his doing...he gave the credit to the team....in fact, the entire country. One thing that impressed me was that solemn moment when he and others met with the families of 9-11 victims, and how he felt it brought them closure. He seems like a great guy, humble, and down to earth. |
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                      Location: Here | HotbearLVR - 2014-11-12 10:07 PM I just watched the second part. I can't say whether he did the right thing but I really was glued to the TV and thought the special was well done. I thought he went to great lengths to emphasize that this wasn't his doing...he gave the credit to the team....in fact, the entire country. One thing that impressed me was that solemn moment when he and others met with the families of 9-11 victims, and how he felt it brought them closure. He seems like a great guy, humble, and down to earth.
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-11-12 10:07 PM
I just watched the second part. I can't say whether he did the right thing but I really was glued to the TV and thought the special was well done. I thought he went to great lengths to emphasize that this wasn't his doing...he gave the credit to the team....in fact, the entire country. One thing that impressed me was that solemn moment when he and others met with the families of 9-11 victims, and how he felt it brought them closure. He seems like a great guy, humble, and down to earth.
I could not agree more. Vary well done. |
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  You just got to get mean and mean it.
     Location: Arkansas | I didn't watch and don't intend to. This jerk is talking out of school. But then, the image of a book and $$$$$$ are great. Wonder what Fox paid him to be the first? Shame on him for being a greedy gut.
In the early 50's, we were stationed at Sandia Base, Albuquetque, NM. They were all military police who had received training at Ft. Gordon, Ga. All had to be a certen hight and in excelent physical contions. Their job was security. (Atomic Energy Commision was there. As well in Los Almos, NM up the road) Remember, this was in the 50's, and the Cold War was in full bloom. I never knew exactly what went on at Sandia Base, I ask plenty of times. All were US Army and all had Stop Secret Clearance. Which is/was retained until death.
Remembner the old saying "Loose Lips Sink Ships" We don't have many ships any more...but we still have enemy who'd like to sink the USA. Any way they can. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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           Location: Florida.. | Did the other seals support this? |
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Holy Fruit Loops!
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    Location: Colorado | He needs to turn in his Trident and remember his Seal Ethos, "I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions".
Not everything belongs on TV.
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    Location: Missouri | I watched the last part. Since I've been thinking about my grandpa a lot lately, I dug out some of his old photos on Veterans Day and read some articles to my kids. When my grandpa died, a man in his dress uniform came to me and shook my hand. He said he had read about my grandpa in text books and when he saw his obituary in the paper, he decided to come show his respect. No one knows my grandpa, who he was, what he did. Just us few family members and that kind soldier. He was "a soldier's soldier." A hero. He is one of very few Triple CIB recipients. I've read all sorts of letters of accolades. I read the story where he saved Charlie Beckwith's life. My favorite stories were when he was reassigned due to an injury and had to travel with Barry Sadler. My grandma answered his fan mail. Oh, the stories. No one knows. And, he wouldn't have wanted them to. He's my hero, and my brother's. I guess that was enough for him. |
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| Every action is spurred on by a motivating factor, from the SEAL on up to the top and to the advertisers and to Fox. The clearance to talk about this must have burned up a ton of red tape just to watch that money roll in. I have the upmost respect for the SEALS but this was wrong and highly paid for. |
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        Location: SE KS | my first thought when I saw it advertised - WHY would he put himself out there? Why would FOX do this?
What a way to become a target. I did not watch the program.
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The Seal Community AND the SOF community largely dissaproves of talk about missions. ONeill did not reveal anything that wasn't in the book "No Easy Day". However the author of that book has received huge back lash from his own brotherhood. |
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| Gail - 2014-11-13 9:15 AM FOX never pays for interviews.
The Seal Community AND the SOF community largely dissaproves of talk about missions. ONeill did not reveal anything that wasn't in the book "No Easy Day". However the author of that book has received huge back lash from his own brotherhood.
Thankyou for sharing that! I really enjoyed watching the show......if you didn't watch it, I dont think it is fair to judge it. He gave credit to all involved and said it was luck that put him in the position to fire the killing shot. He did not reveal anything that would aid the enemy.......but he certainly put himself out there as far as his own security, I would think. From my take, he did this to help give closure to the families of 9/11 that were not at the museum when he was there.......very touching and very well done. Hard for me to sleep last night after watching it........I dont know how he could ever sleep....... |
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I just read the headlines
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| komet. - 2014-11-12 7:06 PM
LRQHS - 2014-11-12 7:01 PM
Did he give a reason for telling his story? I'm feeling a movie deal here....
I have my suspicions.. I wonder if this is a disinformation job by Obama. Just because HE is the one that told us OBL was dead, I don't believe it. It could be he was taken alive and has been undergoing some (much needed ) torture to milk him for information. That would explain why this man has not been arrested.
I also have my suspicions. I do believe these men believe they killed OBL but I don't believe it was OBL. |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | I have a question. If there is some danger in revealing special ops actions, then why not have them sign a contract of silence when they become a member of SOF? If they violate that contractual agreement they could be prosecuted. Why this gray area? If a retired CIA employee reveals classified info they can be prosecuted. Fair enough.... Then do the same for SOF. This isn't the first time SOF activities have been revealed or exposed. Books have been written, movies have been made. Those movies are made with the assistance of former Special Ops people as consultants. If there is some unwritten code of silence, it doesn't seem to me that it has been adhered to rigidly or consistently. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my impression. |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | The SEAL Code
• Loyalty to Country, Team and Teammate • Serve with Honor and Integrity On and Off the Battlefield • Ready to Lead, Ready to Follow, Never Quit • Take responsibility for your actions and the actions of your teammates • Excel as Warriors through Discipline and Innovation • Train for War, Fight to Win, Defeat our Nation’s Enemies • Earn your Trident everyday
United States Navy SEAL
In times of war or uncertainty there is a special breed of warrior ready to answer our Nation’s call. A common man with uncommon desire to succeed.
Forged by adversity, he stands alongside America’s finest special operations forces to serve his country, the American people, and protect their way of life.
I am that man.
My Trident is a symbol of honor and heritage. Bestowed upon me by the heroes that have gone before, it embodies the trust of those I have sworn to protect. By wearing the Trident I accept the responsibility of my chosen profession and way of life. It is a privilege that I must earn every day.
My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own.
I serve with honor on and off the battlefield. The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men.
Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond.
We expect to lead and be led. In the absence of orders I will take charge, lead my teammates and accomplish the mission. I lead by example in all situations.
I will never quit. I persevere and thrive on adversity. My Nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down, I will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight.
We demand discipline. We expect innovation. The lives of my teammates and the success of our mission depend on me – my technical skill, tactical proficiency, and attention to detail. My training is never complete.
We train for war and fight to win. I stand ready to bring the full spectrum of combat power to bear in order to achieve my mission and the goals established by my country. The execution of my duties will be swift and violent when required yet guided by the very principles that I serve to defend.
Brave men have fought and died building the proud tradition and feared reputation that I am bound to uphold. In the worst of conditions, the legacy of my teammates steadies my resolve and silently guides my every deed. I will not fail. |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | Gail - 2014-11-12 10:15 AM FOX never pays for interviews.
The Seal Community AND the SOF community largely dissaproves of talk about missions. ONeill did not reveal anything that wasn't in the book "No Easy Day". However the author of that book has received huge back lash from his own brotherhood.
That was my understanding.........no money has changed hands or will............. The show was interesting.......... |
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| I am a little shocked (Pissed really) at some off the remarks on this thread. How can you run your gum's about this show or Rob Oneal WITH OUT VIEWING THE SHOW. If you had watched the show you would see that he is not being paid did not reveal any tact's nor names that has not been released by the New York times, Nat Geo channel, Discovery Channel,Hollywood,several books already written about this, and the White House. |
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| jbhoot - 2014-11-13 9:48 AM
I am a little shocked (Pissed really) at some off the remarks on this thread. How can you run your gum's about this show or Rob Oneal WITH OUT VIEWING THE SHOW. If you had watched the show you would see that he is not being paid did not reveal any tact's nor names that has not been released by the New York times, Nat Geo channel, Discovery Channel,Hollywood,several books already written about this, and the White House.
Because it's the fact the he is even talking that has people upset... it's not what he's saying but that he shouldn't be saying anything at all! |
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