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| So I've been thinking about this cross for a few days now. The problem is that the race people who know 5bar dont want the DOD. and the people who what the DOD probably wont recognize or be willing to pay the price you will need. I still think you're better to breed your other mare to 5bar. |
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| All solid points ^^^^ what is your market for the foal?
But I will take a five bar ;-) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I don't think I said that I'd be selling the foal. In fact, I'd hope greatly for a stud prospect at some point, but wouldn't mind a filly either. Now, if we got more than one from her, I'd probably be ok selling one, but she's older and I would like to keep that bloodline in my program somehow. |
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| If you are keeping it, then go for it. I think it would be a neat cross! |
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| If your plan is to keep the offspring then by all means breed how ya like!
 ETA - Scorchy is getting older ... maybe breed to him to keep that streakin' six line in there too? I really like that idea .... hmmmm maybe flush her and breed one egg to scorcho and one egg to ASOF. Then, cross your fingers for filly's and breed the heck outa them? They'd be similar breeding with streakin' six on the top side, same bottom, and a little different mare line on the sire side ... hmmmm I like this idea more and more ...
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I really like him, but I'm thinking of the "whole package." I want it all lol. I want a barrel prospect, stud potential, marketablility, conformation, pedigree, etc. all rolled up into one super horse lol. |
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| I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | Judge Cash or Firewater Finale
I saw a picture of the mare and she is beautiful! I think with both my choices you will get size and bone to exceed at anything! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | got boost? - 2015-01-09 10:54 AM Judge Cash or Firewater Finale
I saw a picture of the mare and she is beautiful! I think with both my choices you will get size and bone to exceed at anything!
Thank you, I really appreciate it. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help!
I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | In short, I'm trying to breed my own Dash ta Fame lol. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'd be ok with my own Easy Jet too. |
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Location: Montana | Just try this cross on for size...his first foals I believe are 3 or 4 this year.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hearts+for+lean+foal+2
Also, whoever said Judge Cash, that would a pretty cool cross! |
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I think if you have the funds, you should just go straight to the source, and not a son of DTF.
Judge Cash is interesting too. |
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| If I knew I was only getting one foal in the lifetime of this mare I would stick with something that is a proven producer. Although family lines are proven there are offspring that do not produce and an unproven horse is risky if you have the budget to take her to the best of the proven sires. I like the Judge Cash thought. I think his colts are proven enough would add speed and should stay sound. Just my opinion. |
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| LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
I completely understand. And, at this point while you are still building the program, I have found it to be the toughest part! Waiting for the babies to hit the ground can be frustrating. You could seriously speed it up by flushing and dropping several foals from that mare in the same year. You could pick a couple differnt stallions and drop maternal siblings on the ground to breed back to Scorcho ... hmmmmmm I like that idea too! Are they sexing equine embryos yet? I know that it is successfully done in the cattle and sheep industry .... |
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Location: Montana | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 11:49 AM LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
I'm not a breeder nor a scientist, but I don't think you can sex embryos as I believe the gender of the foal is determined by the stud. But perhaps I'm confused on that point. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 12:49 PM LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
I don't know about sexing. I'm totally new to ET. I think plans for next year will be to try to get a few from her. I'll have to save up. |
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I like pretty much any CC stud, so I think that is nice.
I would go with something straight race, that is what I did for my cowbred. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-01-09 12:57 PM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 11:49 AM LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
perhaps I should have said are they sexing equine semen. My bad, but I know when you flush a cow; you pull eggs, drop 'em in a dish, grab the correct sex of semen, mate them, watch 'em develop, then drop 'em in donors. (yes, I know it is more specific, that's just a rough outline of the work flow).
This is routinely done in the Dairy cattle industry as females are worth more. My ex-fiance did it with some beef cows (simmies) and my dad has done it with some ewes of ours ... I just wasn't sure if the equine industry was to that point yet  Must google ....... |
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