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Location: North Dakota | Longneck - 2015-02-03 10:00 AM
Anyone know about Renew Gold?
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Location: Florida.. | GLP - 2015-02-03 10:08 AM So Nutrena states they are monensin free but is monensin just one kind of ionophore or is it just the common name? Nutrena states on first page that the "" Majority ""is free of it.. you can contact them to find out if the facility yours is processed at is.. or isnt..so id do that..
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-03 11:02 AM SG. - 2015-02-03 6:48 AM Please share if you know of other monensin free mills. I am nervous about Adm's response to the deaths in Florida. That's exactly right...ADM's response is excluding the possibility of trace amounts being found in their feed. There are manufacturer's claiming that trace amounts of Monensin is not toxic to horses. This is blatantly untrue and misleading. Trace amounts are not toxic to "most" horses....Who on here wants to play Russian Roulette with their horses health or lives for that mattter?
Theoretically any horse that has been exposed to Monensin should never be ridden again, much less return to competition due to the possibility of heart failure.
Thank you Rachel Their blantant disregard in this is just not right  
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Location: Here | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-03 12:04 PM GLP - 2015-02-03 10:08 AM So Nutrena states they are monensin free but is monensin just one kind of ionophore or is it just the common name? Nutrena states on first page that the "" Majority ""is free of it.. you can contact them to find out if the facility yours is processed at is.. or isnt..so id do that..
The problem with majority is your big chains buying it and redistributing |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | SG. - 2015-02-03 1:26 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-03 11:02 AM SG. - 2015-02-03 6:48 AM Please share if you know of other monensin free mills. I am nervous about Adm's response to the deaths in Florida. That's exactly right...ADM's response is excluding the possibility of trace amounts being found in their feed. There are manufacturer's claiming that trace amounts of Monensin is not toxic to horses. This is blatantly untrue and misleading. Trace amounts are not toxic to "most" horses....Who on here wants to play Russian Roulette with their horses health or lives for that mattter?
Theoretically any horse that has been exposed to Monensin should never be ridden again, much less return to competition due to the possibility of heart failure.
NONE is the only tolerable answer
That is why I told them to come and pick up a whole pallet of the feed this morning and had my husband go and get straight oats. We will feed that along with perinneal peanut hay and free choice minerals from now one.
I am tired of all the "well, you just read it on the internet" bull crap. Why yes, I did and you also came to my house and still no answers. So, this consumer made a decision not to feed the product.
I know some will still feed it, but I hope they don't. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-03 9:19 AM Unfortunately I would question them .. ADM.. the way things were handled and still selling the feed with those LOT numbers and basically telling everyone that calls its ok..safe yet some horses have died and others have coliced and ended up in UF. Id never trust the company again.. to late.Lab tests, vets, feed tested etc showed it was contaminated yet Jason Hartley still is denying..I have always been a huge fan of patriot performance and ADM .. but not anymore. they handled this wrong. recall and active intervention would have been correct way..
I agree..ADM will never get anymore of my business. They tried to make the people warning about this that their claims were unfounded etc.
Prayers for all of the horses and their owners that were affected by this.
Dog Food recalls and now horse feed recalls are not acceptable. |
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Location: Here | 3canstorun - 2015-02-03 12:35 PM SG. - 2015-02-03 1:26 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-03 11:02 AM SG. - 2015-02-03 6:48 AM Please share if you know of other monensin free mills. I am nervous about Adm's response to the deaths in Florida. That's exactly right...ADM's response is excluding the possibility of trace amounts being found in their feed. There are manufacturer's claiming that trace amounts of Monensin is not toxic to horses. This is blatantly untrue and misleading. Trace amounts are not toxic to "most" horses....Who on here wants to play Russian Roulette with their horses health or lives for that mattter?
Theoretically any horse that has been exposed to Monensin should never be ridden again, much less return to competition due to the possibility of heart failure.
NONE is the only tolerable answer
I am tired of all the "well, you just read it on the internet" bull crap. Why yes, I did and you also came to my house and still no answers. So, this consumer made a decision not to feed the product.
I know some will still feed it, but I hope they don't.
I have a question, is plain grain safe? Is it only pelleted feed that is at risk? |
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Location: Oklahoma | It's scary wondering. I've contacted Nutrena to find out where the feed store I purchase from gets their feed. I feed both Nutrena Pro Force Fuel and Safe Choice original. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I just got a reply from Nutrena. " all feed in Oklahmona is from feed mills that are monensin free." |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | SG. - 2015-02-03 12:32 PM 3canstorun - 2015-02-03 12:35 PM SG. - 2015-02-03 1:26 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-03 11:02 AM SG. - 2015-02-03 6:48 AM Please share if you know of other monensin free mills. I am nervous about Adm's response to the deaths in Florida. That's exactly right...ADM's response is excluding the possibility of trace amounts being found in their feed. There are manufacturer's claiming that trace amounts of Monensin is not toxic to horses. This is blatantly untrue and misleading. Trace amounts are not toxic to "most" horses....Who on here wants to play Russian Roulette with their horses health or lives for that mattter?
Theoretically any horse that has been exposed to Monensin should never be ridden again, much less return to competition due to the possibility of heart failure.
NONE is the only tolerable answer
I am tired of all the "well, you just read it on the internet" bull crap. Why yes, I did and you also came to my house and still no answers. So, this consumer made a decision not to feed the product.
I know some will still feed it, but I hope they don't.
I don't see how it can be? My local feed mill makes every kind of feed there is. They run oats through the same equipment. So those that are running to buy plain oats, I don't think are any safer. If you can get them straight from the farmer, that would be the way to go. |
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Location: Here | TwistedK - 2015-02-03 1:36 PM I just got a reply from Nutrena. " all feed in Oklahmona is from feed mills that are monensin free."
Sold in OKlahoma or manufactured in Oklahoma
What about what tractor supply brings in for example |
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Location: Here | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-03 1:37 PM SG. - 2015-02-03 12:32 PM 3canstorun - 2015-02-03 12:35 PM SG. - 2015-02-03 1:26 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-03 11:02 AM SG. - 2015-02-03 6:48 AM Please share if you know of other monensin free mills. I am nervous about Adm's response to the deaths in Florida. That's exactly right...ADM's response is excluding the possibility of trace amounts being found in their feed. There are manufacturer's claiming that trace amounts of Monensin is not toxic to horses. This is blatantly untrue and misleading. Trace amounts are not toxic to "most" horses....Who on here wants to play Russian Roulette with their horses health or lives for that mattter?
Theoretically any horse that has been exposed to Monensin should never be ridden again, much less return to competition due to the possibility of heart failure.
NONE is the only tolerable answer
I am tired of all the "well, you just read it on the internet" bull crap. Why yes, I did and you also came to my house and still no answers. So, this consumer made a decision not to feed the product.
I know some will still feed it, but I hope they don't.
Thank you That is what I was thinking |
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Location: Oklahoma | SG. - 2015-02-03 1:38 PM
TwistedK - 2015-02-03 1:36 PM I just got a reply from Nutrena. " all feed in Oklahmona is from feed mills that are monensin free."
Sold in OKlahoma or manufactured in Oklahoma
What about what tractor supply brings in for example
When I emailed them originally I told the the feed store I purchased my feed from and asked if he received his feed from monensin free mills. That is a good question. I will ask them |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | SG. - 2015-02-03 2:38 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-02-03 1:37 PM SG. - 2015-02-03 12:32 PM 3canstorun - 2015-02-03 12:35 PM SG. - 2015-02-03 1:26 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-03 11:02 AM SG. - 2015-02-03 6:48 AM Please share if you know of other monensin free mills. I am nervous about Adm's response to the deaths in Florida. That's exactly right...ADM's response is excluding the possibility of trace amounts being found in their feed. There are manufacturer's claiming that trace amounts of Monensin is not toxic to horses. This is blatantly untrue and misleading. Trace amounts are not toxic to "most" horses....Who on here wants to play Russian Roulette with their horses health or lives for that mattter?
Theoretically any horse that has been exposed to Monensin should never be ridden again, much less return to competition due to the possibility of heart failure. NONE is the only tolerable answer
I am tired of all the "well, you just read it on the internet" bull crap. Why yes, I did and you also came to my house and still no answers. So, this consumer made a decision not to feed the product.
I know some will still feed it, but I hope they don't.
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Location: East Texas | I am curious about triple crown! I recently had this experience: 27 year old gelding been on triple crown for about a month and a half. Gaining weight looked great and still being ridden, not your average 27 year old horse. Opened a New bag and fed two feeding and my horse began to act like he was mildly colicing. Stool became loose, then normal. He refused to eat. Gave banamine and it helped the first day. This was Saturday afternoon. Kept on banamine, probiotics, ulcer meds etc till Tuesday when we finally went to lone star park. His gums were almost purple and he was extremely dehydrated! He stayed until Saturday, still wouldn't eat but was drinking. I brought him home and he still refused to eat. Sunday and Monday I thought it was the end, but refused to give up. I wet feed and fed him through a syringe just trying to get something in him. During the whole time he has water poop! Became dehydrated again and Tuesday my last option was to get fluids going. I ran 9 bags in him and noticed a turn around. He began eating some. Of course he has lost all muscle and is very thin! During this he began urinating excessively, which in caused the second dehydration. This all started in January 10 and with no answers from the vet After spending $1000 I began treating him myself with no other options left and he is still alive. I started him in tribrisson and b12 which got him to eat a little. He never ran a temp, but began labored breathing before antibiotics were started. He still isn't 100%, but he does it, just not as fast. He lost so much weight and muscle it's unreal but he is still here and fighting! I have always thought it could have been the feed but will be having it tested now!!
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Location: Beggs, OK | In the case of trace amounts it's due to residue in the mixer or a mixing issue itself. That means that any feed whether it's pellets or not would be possibly contaminated if proper procedures are not followed.
Knowing that processes and procedures are only as reliable as the people that are supposed to follow them....I would prefer to remove the risk completely. Medicated cattle feed should not be produced in a facility that produces horse feed. |
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Location: Oklahoma | SG- I just asked Nutrena about selling/manufacturing. Here is their response.
"Feed in both independent retailers in OK, as well as feed found in TSC stores in OK, come from our plant in OKC - so it good to go |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | What the whole contamination thing boils down to this - laziness on the part of the workers who are mixing the feed. The other problem is big corporations and they dont give a sh............. Most people don't have the time and money to fight them.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-03 12:04 PM GLP - 2015-02-03 10:08 AM So Nutrena states they are monensin free but is monensin just one kind of ionophore or is it just the common name? Nutrena states on first page that the "" Majority ""is free of it.. you can contact them to find out if the facility yours is processed at is.. or isnt..so id do that..
I would quit feeding it. It would be like a restaurant saying most of their restaurants use fresh meat but some don't. Call us and we'll tell you which one uses old meat.. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TwistedK - 2015-02-03 1:43 PM SG- I just asked Nutrena about selling/manufacturing. Here is their response. "Feed in both independent retailers in OK, as well as feed found in TSC stores in OK, come from our plant in OKC - so it good to go
Well isn't that swell. |
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