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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: The American semi-finals round Two


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It's called rodeo . Some of the horses that were running were futurity/derby horses. And they are used to manicured ground just like the big barrelraces. Rodeo ground can be trashy and bad. You get used to it. Doesn't mean you have to like it. I have hauled hours to a rodeo only to turn out due to bad and dangerous ground. That's a choice and always a option.
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just4fun
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2015-02-22 5:24 PM
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just4fun - 2015-02-22 5:07 PM I was really rooting for Tana Poppino and Goose. That horse can't be beat when he leaves the barrels up! Such an amazing team and Tana is such an inspiration!   
They were smokin'! Even after they kind of let up after the third barrel.   

They set an arena record at the All American rodeo back in the fall. We'll see more of them this year, I'm sure!  
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-02-22 5:24 PM
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Where did you guys find it? 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:26 PM
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readytorodeo - 2015-02-22 5:16 PM It's called rodeo . Some of the horses that were running were futurity/derby horses. And they are used to manicured ground just like the big barrelraces. Rodeo ground can be trashy and bad. You get used to it. Doesn't mean you have to like it. I have hauled hours to a rodeo only to turn out due to bad and dangerous ground. That's a choice and always a option.
It is rodeo, but it is following BBR rules and they were working the ground every 5......... that's not typical rodeo conditions!  So with that it would be nice to have it more fair.  I understand with other events happening in conjuction it's hard to keep the ground even.  I know they tried.  It just didn't look the same. For the money this thing paid, I don't think anyone would have drawn out due to ground conditions. 

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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:28 PM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-02-22 5:24 PM Where did you guys find it? 

find what? I watched on the tv. 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-02-22 5:30 PM
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The rodeo. I don't have RFDTV...wondering if someone found it online. 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:31 PM
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sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:26 PM
readytorodeo - 2015-02-22 5:16 PM It's called rodeo . Some of the horses that were running were futurity/derby horses. And they are used to manicured ground just like the big barrelraces. Rodeo ground can be trashy and bad. You get used to it. Doesn't mean you have to like it. I have hauled hours to a rodeo only to turn out due to bad and dangerous ground. That's a choice and always a option.
It is rodeo, but it is following BBR rules and they were working the ground every 5......... that's not typical rodeo conditons!  So with that it would be nice to have it more fair.  I understand with other events happening in conjuction it's hard to keep the ground even.  I know they tried.  It just didn't look the same. For the money this thing paid, I don't think anyone would have drawn out due to ground conditions. 
To go along with everything else I said Mulberry Canyon Moon tripped or slipped with Troy Crummrine.  That is a horse that has run on rodeo ground all over the country and at the NFR as well as derbies and futurities.   

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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:33 PM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-02-22 5:30 PM The rodeo. I don't have RFDTV...wondering if someone found it online. 
Did you join their Country Club on their website?  That's the only other place to watch it.  There is a monthly fee for it. There is a thread about the RFDTV Country Club and those people were watching it online.  https://www.rfdcc.com/create-account

 

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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-22 5:42 PM
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sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:26 PM
readytorodeo - 2015-02-22 5:16 PM It's called rodeo . Some of the horses that were running were futurity/derby horses. And they are used to manicured ground just like the big barrelraces. Rodeo ground can be trashy and bad. You get used to it. Doesn't mean you have to like it. I have hauled hours to a rodeo only to turn out due to bad and dangerous ground. That's a choice and always a option.
It is rodeo, but it is following BBR rules andΒ they were working the ground every 5......... that's not rodeo!Β  So with that is would be nice to have it more fair.Β  I understand with other events happening inΒ conjuction it's hard to keep the ground even.Β  I know they tried.Β  It just didn't look the same.Β For the money this thing paid, I don't think anyone would have drawn out due to ground conditions.Β 
Β ^^^^what sodapop said!!!! There is zero excuse at ANY rodeo that is in a coliseum to ha be ground that is unsafe. Not to mention a coliseum that has a weekly rodeo. This event is to cater to the people who either choose not to be on the road or are unable to be due to family, jobs, lifestyles, and priorities. Nothing other than the atmosphere itself is the same as a refar rodeo. I am very disappointed that the ground eliminated nearly an entire performance of qualifiers. I would like to personally congratulate Joleen Hales, Sharin Hall, and Streakin Ta Fame on their outstanding run today. What a nice horse he is and he's proven yet again that he is an elite performer able to withstand even the poorest of conditions!

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readytorodeo
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:47 PM
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sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:26 PM
readytorodeo - 2015-02-22 5:16 PM It's called rodeo . Some of the horses that were running were futurity/derby horses. And they are used to manicured ground just like the big barrelraces. Rodeo ground can be trashy and bad. You get used to it. Doesn't mean you have to like it. I have hauled hours to a rodeo only to turn out due to bad and dangerous ground. That's a choice and always a option.
It is rodeo, but it is following BBR rules and they were working the ground every 5......... that's not rodeo!  So with that is would be nice to have it more fair.  I understand with other events happening in conjuction it's hard to keep the ground even.  I know they tried.  It just didn't look the same. For the money this thing paid, I don't think anyone would have drawn out due to ground conditions. 
 ^^^^what sodapop said!!!! There is zero excuse at ANY rodeo that is in a coliseum to ha be ground that is unsafe. Not to mention a coliseum that has a weekly rodeo. This event is to cater to the people who either choose not to be on the road or are unable to be due to family, jobs, lifestyles, and priorities. I am very disappointed that the ground eliminated nearly an entire performance of qualifiers. I would like to personally congratulate Joleen Hales, Sharin Hall, and Streakin Ta Fame on their outstanding run today. What a nice horse he is and he's proven yet again that he is an elite performer able to withstand even the poorest of conditions!

 The ground in that coliseum has had problems before.  And yes a indoor rodeo can have ground problems.  I saw a horse break it's leg at Athens Pro Rodeo.  If the BBR was in control then I agree they should have taken better care of the ground.  Glad no horses were hurt bad or riders.
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 5:50 PM
Subject: RE: The American semi-finals round Two


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readytorodeo - 2015-02-22 5:47 PM
Herbie - 2015-02-22 5:42 PM
sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:26 PM
readytorodeo - 2015-02-22 5:16 PM It's called rodeo . Some of the horses that were running were futurity/derby horses. And they are used to manicured ground just like the big barrelraces. Rodeo ground can be trashy and bad. You get used to it. Doesn't mean you have to like it. I have hauled hours to a rodeo only to turn out due to bad and dangerous ground. That's a choice and always a option.
It is rodeo, but it is following BBR rules and they were working the ground every 5......... that's not rodeo!  So with that is would be nice to have it more fair.  I understand with other events happening in conjuction it's hard to keep the ground even.  I know they tried.  It just didn't look the same. For the money this thing paid, I don't think anyone would have drawn out due to ground conditions. 
 ^^^^what sodapop said!!!! There is zero excuse at ANY rodeo that is in a coliseum to ha be ground that is unsafe. Not to mention a coliseum that has a weekly rodeo. This event is to cater to the people who either choose not to be on the road or are unable to be due to family, jobs, lifestyles, and priorities. I am very disappointed that the ground eliminated nearly an entire performance of qualifiers. I would like to personally congratulate Joleen Hales, Sharin Hall, and Streakin Ta Fame on their outstanding run today. What a nice horse he is and he's proven yet again that he is an elite performer able to withstand even the poorest of conditions!
 The ground in that coliseum has had problems before.  And yes a indoor rodeo can have ground problems.  I saw a horse break it's leg at Athens Pro Rodeo.  If the BBR was in control then I agree they should have taken better care of the ground.  Glad no horses were hurt bad or riders.
I don't know who was in charge of the ground.  I just know they had to follow BBR rules since the BBR was the sanctioning association for the qualifiers and therefore will be the rules they follow for The American as well. I know it is difficult to manage rodeo ground with all the different events and the changing weather.  The weather would even contribute somewhat an inside arena as well..... humidity, moisture and whatnot.

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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 6:01 PM
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WrapSnap
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-02-22 6:03 PM
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I honestly thought the ground wasn't forgiving, but I'm not going to say that it was as bad as many think it was. If a horse was square and upright, they could stand up on it, as Bo proved.
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-02-22 6:05 PM
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 It is just a shame to make it that far and be taken out because of ground.  Way too many slips and trips and ground not holding as they tried to push off in both rounds 2 and 3.   How awesome would it have been to have everyone get the same ground and have a chance.  I was hoping to see 30 great runs,  instead 1/2 of them were tripping and slipping and falling.
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 6:08 PM
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WrapSnap - 2015-02-22 6:03 PM I honestly thought the ground wasn't forgiving, but I'm not going to say that it was as bad as many think it was. If a horse was square and upright, they could stand up on it, as Bo proved.
Several did seem to handle it pretty well for whatever reason.

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SKM
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-02-22 7:33 PM
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I totally get bad rodeo ground. But...when you have 30 top notch horses....and 5 or 6 of the top 10 come out of the first perf... sorry but something isn't right. When the tractor guy says "Well the tractor just slid into the fence so it's probably going to be slick today"...that's not right.

Not trying to take away from those that made it to the Finals. But you hate to see over half of the qualifiers get beat by the luck of the draw. Especially the ones that got the last perf. Shame on the BBR for not making sure the ground was equal for all 3 perfs.
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JSwantner
Reg. Aug 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 7:33 PM
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So who will be running at the Finals?  And do you know when the finals will air on RFDTV? (if this info has already been posted, my apologies for being lazy
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Posted 2015-02-22 7:50 PM
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WrapSnap - 2015-02-22 4:03 PM

I honestly thought the ground wasn't forgiving, but I'm not going to say that it was as bad as many think it was. If a horse was square and upright, they could stand up on it, as Bo proved.

Agreed. The horses that had trouble were out of position to make the turn in the first place. Not saying the ground didn't contribute, but it wasn't like well groomed jackpot ground where you can pull their head away and give it back or run in there 9-0 and hope to bank around the turn and it will hold. Mulberry tripped right after Troy let go of the outside rein. Her head was cranked to the wrong side to make the turn in the first place. Bad body position + speed + shifty ground = slips, trips & trouble. You can't get away with as many bad riding habits on bad ground as you can on good. You can't run a 2 hour perf with all the events and still have perfect ground by the time barrels rolls around.
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 7:52 PM
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JSwantner - 2015-02-22 7:33 PM So who will be running at the Finals?  And do you know when the finals will air on RFDTV? (if this info has already been posted, my apologies for being lazy
The top 10 from the NFR in barrels, steer wrestling, calf roping, team roping, saddle bronc riding and bareback riding. Then the top 10 from the PBR finals. The top 10 barrel racers from the American Semi-Finals. The top 5 from all the other events at the American Semi-Finals is the way I understand it. They also have the exemptions like Charmayne, Amberely Snyder, Fred Whitfield and Ote Berry. Not sure of the other exemptions. They have everything list on their facebook page. Results and times for tv viewing. It's a public business page. You don't have to have facebook to view it all.
edit- I forgot Speed Williams and Rich Skelton will be the team roping exemption.
https://www.facebook.com/RFDTVTheAMERICAN

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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-02-22 7:53 PM
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3 To Go - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-02-22 4:03 PM I honestly thought the ground wasn't forgiving, but I'm not going to say that it was as bad as many think it was. If a horse was square and upright, they could stand up on it, as Bo proved.
Agreed. The horses that had trouble were out of position to make the turn in the first place. Not saying the ground didn't contribute, but it wasn't like well groomed jackpot ground where you can pull their head away and give it back or run in there 9-0 and hope to bank around the turn and it will hold. Mulberry tripped right after Troy let go of the outside rein. Her head was cranked to the wrong side to make the turn in the first place. Bad body position + speed + shifty ground = slips, trips & trouble. You can't get away with as many bad riding habits on bad ground as you can on good. You can't run a 2 hour perf with all the events and still have perfect ground by the time barrels rolls around.

Mulberry always runs that way.  Whoever rides her is always holding her off like hat.  I remember seeing Angie Meadors having to do the same thing. I don't know if she is in a habit of tripping and slipping or not. 
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