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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Nevertooold - 2015-03-04 9:49 PM And KC Jones was determined the sole winner and it wasn't a tie. In a tie in rodeo, they would have taken the the whole amount and split it. They didn't.
Their score for the perf was a tie but the winner was determined by the tie breaker per the rules. So he was not the winner on a single time but on two times- aka the avg. I am sure you already know this though. Just clarifying. | |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | 4Horse - 2015-03-04 10:24 AM I had to guess at some of the sponsors. Agree, Polaris was so "present" that you could help but remember it. For me the size of the place, 2 arenas a big platform between them, so much going on it was impossible to notice sponsors. While I watched from the comfort of home, I couldn't help but be perplexed at why anyone would pay to attend when the audience was sooooo far away from the action; I did mention this in the comments. If I have to pay to watch on a big screen TV, I'll stay home and see it better, no lines for the bathroom, food, or traffic. I like smaller arenas where you can see all the events and well. Didn't care for all the holding pens in the arena either. My opinion - but a horrible venue for a rodeo.
I would disagree but I was there on not at home. There is an electricity in the air. And I was closer to the action than anytime I have been at the NFR but then again, Gold Buckle seats are very high and harder to get, NFR tickets period are nearly impossible to get- muchless decent seats.
The feedback I gave was they NEED a climate controlled vendor show. Cowboy Christmas in Vegas is so popular that they now have like 5 of them. | |
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Location: Kansas | kwanatha - 2015-03-05 7:30 AM I think they should have alternates ready in the bull riding and just keep adding contestants from the list until 4 make it to the short go. not fair to let someone that got bucked off get back on and win that money.
Totally agree..........
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | kwanatha - 2015-03-05 6:30 AM I think they should have alternates ready in the bull riding and just keep adding contestants from the list until 4 make it to the short go. not fair to let someone that got bucked off get back on and win that money.
What if they couldn't get 4 to ride?!?! It could go on forever and I want to see the short round of the barrels! :)
Bull riding has become my least favorite event because very few ever ride anymore. Wait 10 minutes for them to leave the chute and they hit the dirt in 2 seconds. I'm sure the guys love the challenge to "ride a rank one" but I'm tired of never seeing any rides. If only 3 qualified for the short round...then only 3 should advance...if nobody rides...throw the names into a hat and draw out 4. | |
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Location: North Dakota | babiemox - 2015-03-05 11:26 AM kwanatha - 2015-03-05 6:30 AM I think they should have alternates ready in the bull riding and just keep adding contestants from the list until 4 make it to the short go. not fair to let someone that got bucked off get back on and win that money. What if they couldn't get 4 to ride?!?! It could go on forever and I want to see the short round of the barrels! :)
Bull riding has become my least favorite event because very few ever ride anymore. Wait 10 minutes for them to leave the chute and they hit the dirt in 2 seconds. I'm sure the guys love the challenge to "ride a rank one" but I'm tired of never seeing any rides. If only 3 qualified for the short round...then only 3 should advance...if nobody rides...throw the names into a hat and draw out 4.
I agree....if only three qualify then only three get the opportunity to ride for the payout. Randy Bernard said that the crowd paid for their tickets to they want to see 4 ride. No, I believe the crowd wants to see those that deserve to be in the shootout ride...not someone who lucked into it to soak a bull for 10 minutes just to steal the win in the end from the three that deserved to be there. | |
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| babiemox - 2015-03-05 11:26 AM
kwanatha - 2015-03-05 6:30 AM I think they should have alternates ready in the bull riding and just keep adding contestants from the list until 4 make it to the short go. not fair to let someone that got bucked off get back on and win that money.
What if they couldn't get 4 to ride?!?! It could go on forever and I want to see the short round of the barrels! :)
Bull riding has become my least favorite event because very few ever ride anymore. Wait 10 minutes for them to leave the chute and they hit the dirt in 2 seconds. I'm sure the guys love the challenge to "ride a rank one" but I'm tired of never seeing any rides. If only 3 qualified for the short round...then only 3 should advance...if nobody rides...throw the names into a hat and draw out 4.
In TYRA, a junior rodeo assoc. in Texas, if no one covered their bull then no one won. If only 1 covered his bull he won the whole pot. If only 2 rode then they spilt it 60/40. It was the same in every event, if none of the breakaway ropers caught a calf in the finals, no one won the saddle or buckle. If only 3 qualified for the finals, then they are the only ones who should have rode in the final round. There were times this was the case. I agree babiemox, I don't care for bull riding anymore. I went to Extreme Bullriding round at San Antonio Rodeo, my gosh was I bored! The first several rounds were nothing but dinks, and the cowboys acted like they had really done something to cover them. It lasted way to long and I wanted gone long before I was. | |
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| I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. | |
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| scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM
I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part.
KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense?
I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware. | |
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| stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
absolutley, thank you. | |
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Location: Coffeyville KS | I still think if you make the top 4....you should all get money....also if winning the long go...should merit some money... | |
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Location: Where I am happiest | stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
Actually, KC Jones did in the end get a part of the Million. Randy Barnard was on The American Recap last night on RFD TV and they said he did get to share in the million. Rightfully so! | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 2:16 PM stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
Sounds good to me..
If in fact they had split first and second, that would have been a tie. They undid the tie and he was the outright winner and many of us old farts looked at it the same way.
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I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part.
KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense?
I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
The way the rule actually is written, KC should have been eligible for part of the million. The rule, and I am paraphrasing here, reads that in the event of a tie the winner will be chosen based on the two head average from the shoot out round and the long round. If a winner cannot be determined from the tie breaker (they have an identical time in each round), then they will be co-champions, and the money will be split equally. The rule states that no co-champion will be eligible for the million dollar side pot. In this case KC was not a "co-champion", as he was determined the sole winner via the tie-breaker and earned the $100,000, rather than having to split $125,000 with nick guy (who won second).
I don't know all the details, but heard that they decided to bring him back in and split the million. | |
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Location: Arkansas | ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 2:16 PM
stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware.
So they took part of the million from the other two contestants? | |
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | Chandler's Mom - 2015-03-05 9:41 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 2:16 PM stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware. So they took part of the million from the other two contestants?
Yes, they took $83k from Price & Reemer and paid KC $283k, which is great. The founder of RFD-TV wanted to make it right. Though, I do not understand the math at all. It seems that 1 million split 3 ways should be about $333k. Hopefully someone has an explanation this old cowboy can understand! ;-) | |
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Location: North Dakota | paysonw - 2015-03-06 10:54 AM Chandler's Mom - 2015-03-05 9:41 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 2:16 PM stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware. So they took part of the million from the other two contestants?
It was suppose to be $333k? Did they just decide to give him less in an attempt to make everyone happy? The two guys that thought they were getting $500k and KC who thought he was only getting $100k??? | |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Not sure if there was a thread on here about the calf roping yesterday? Did you see on FB the big story someone with inside info posted about it being supposedly rigged by "letting" him win if he would split his bonus? | |
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paysonw - 2015-03-06 10:54 AM Chandler's Mom - 2015-03-05 9:41 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 2:16 PM stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware. So they took part of the million from the other two contestants?
There was a posting from Randy on fb, all parties agree to the amount. The two volunatrily gave up x amount of their winnings and KC agreed to a little less to make it right. The intention of the rules were that he wasnt eligible for the million but due to confusion with the rule, they agreed he should be given a cut. Randy stated the rule was interpreted differently by multiple readers. I would guess they will word it better for next year.
I just wana say I think hes gotten a lot of crap thus far... and I wanna give a hand though to dealing with the hostility so professional and doing his best to satisfy everyone. I loved his event and I would hate for him to get discouraged and not produce it anymore!
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | stayceem - 2015-03-06 3:25 PM Just Bring It - 2015-03-06 11:00 AM paysonw - 2015-03-06 10:54 AM Chandler's Mom - 2015-03-05 9:41 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 2:16 PM stayceem - 2015-03-05 12:09 PM scwebster - 2015-03-05 11:53 AM I saw something about KC, what exactly happened? I missed that part. KC was a qualifer and technically tied for 1st in the shootout. He qualified with one of the invitees. To break the time, they took the average and KC has the faster average. Therefore, he won the 100,000 and the other guy (forget his name ) took 2nd for 25,000. However, KC didnt get added to the million pot because he didnt win his event "outright" since it was a tie and he was deemed the winner due to a tie-breaker system. Make sense? I personally am not upseet by this. These rules are in place prior to the rodeo and each contestant is aware. So they took part of the million from the other two contestants? There was a posting from Randy on fb, all parties agree to the amount. The two volunatrily gave up x amount of their winnings and KC agreed to a little less to make it right. The intention of the rules were that he wasnt eligible for the million but due to confusion with the rule, they agreed he should be given a cut. Randy stated the rule was interpreted differently by multiple readers. I would guess they will word it better for next year. I just wana say I think hes gotten a lot of crap thus far... and I wanna give a hand though to dealing with the hostility so professional and doing his best to satisfy everyone. I loved his event and I would hate for him to get discouraged and not produce it anymore!
This post says he got another $283k so that makes more sense;Did you hear the news last night on ?#RFDTV? during ?#TheAmerican? Wrap-Up Show? KC Jones, who tied for the fastest steer wrestling time in Sunday’s Shootout Round, will be making some more money! "Unfortunately, there was some confusion with the way the rule was written that made it ambiguous," said Randy Bernard. "RFD-TV is hosting The American to help the sport, not to hurt anybody. We want to do what's right." After a conference call with everyone involved, it was agree...d that Jones would receive an extra $283,000. Everybody gave up a little money, including KC, to make the agreement work.
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