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Location: The edge of no where | 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 10:12 AM 
I've got this saved and use it on my screensaver... LOVE it! Sometimes you've just got to outwork them. I'm so flippin excited about the time change this wknd...I'll get to see my ponies in the daylight more than on wknds. I'm incredibly grateful that we sucked it up and put lights in 2 years ago...but riding in the winter at night in the COLD is NOT fun, however it does pay off. | |
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Location: OH | Sometimes people want to look at the end product like a Jolene Montgomery, this young lady has worked her tail off to get where she is and still does to this day. She started out just saddling horses and warming them up for Troy Crumrine and gradually learned, made the right connections and worked her way up the ladder to become an overnight sensation---YEARS in the making. | |
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| Iwish - 2015-03-04 10:10 PM
I truly am my own worst enemy, always have been. Yes some of my frustration is with prices, but I realize how stupid that is because there is absolutely nothing I can do about them. I have no desire to be a breeder, if I ever did it would only be for myself. I have thought about selling my current mare and buying a nice broodmare and breed for my own nice prospect but I have more money into my mare than I could sell her for and I'm just going to have to make it work because I am tired of losing, I always lose. Plus the most important thing I have to focus on right now is going to college and getting a career, gonna have to put the dreams aside for quite awhile. Anyways, again I apologize for anyone I offended.
This post had me thinking, so I came back. You say you're tired of losing. Well, I'm here to tell you that there are a very certain few that can make their living owning, riding, training, and selling barrel horses. They usually don't have the horse for very long. If you own the horse for any time period, you are going to be sinking the money into them to keep them fit, sound, healthy, and working.
I'm a bit ashamed of the money I've lost on barrel horses throughout the last five years. I could very easily have purchased a nice proven pro horse and an excellent backup. I wish I had done so some days! 20/20 hindsight effect.
Still, I choose to see each loss as lesson. All those horses had problems. They had behavioral and physical issues that I learned to recognize and to sort through. I've spent so much money at the best vets in Texas that I deserve a plaque to hang in my house. I've also learned a ton about myself and how much I really want to run barrels to the best of my ability, and the levels I'm happy with, and what I can't accept. I'm also a lot better at recognizing what makes a good barrel horse than I was. (Old adage: Every horse can run barrels, not every horse should.)
Every situation in itself can be seen as a negative in some way. Every single horse can be seen as not good enough from the right angle. Every single rider can be seen as needing riding lessons if you only watch the frame by frame. Every single daily activity can be seen as wasteful and useless when you view it with the right (or wrong) lens. It's a matter of sucking it up, getting right with yourself, changing stuff until you're happy, and saying, "I want that." and then doing it.
You want to breed to a nice stud? First find out if your mare is worth breeding to in the first place. Is she black type? Has she won at a higher level? Has she got bloodlines that will sell if you don't like or can't keep the colt? Has the mare held up under the stress and strain of heavy hauling? What has she done to deserve to reproduce? Then, once you can justify that list, find a stud that you strongly feel would suit her conformationally and personality wise and make a nice happy medium of horse flesh. Fee higher than your check book? Go pick up cans in the road ditch. Take on some outside horses. Tend bar at night. Unload grain at the feedstore. Stock shelves at walmart. Get enough money together and get it done. This is America, and you have the opportunity to stop sniveling and get to work.
People that whine about other people having it handed to them, so what??? Those good riders that turn down nice horses every year have paid their dues, I promise you. Those folks with money, I don't care I'd they inherited it. It's an absolute blast to try to beat them on less dollars. If you're not having fun, what is the freaking point anyway? It's all about perspective, and I feel sorry for people that can't give themselves a break or a backbone depending what's needed, and carry on with a big smile in the face of life isn't fair.
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Location: The edge of no where | classicpotatochip - 2015-03-05 11:33 Fee higher than your check book? Go pick up cans in the road ditch. Take on some outside horses. Tend bar at night. Unload grain at the feedstore. Stock shelves at walmart. Get enough money together and get it done. This is America, and you have the opportunity to stop sniveling and get to work.
People that whine about other people having it handed to them, so what??? Those good riders that turn down nice horses every year have paid their dues, I promise you. Those folks with money, I don't care I'd they inherited it. It's an absolute blast to try to beat them on less dollars. If you're not having fun, what is the freaking point anyway? It's all about perspective, and I feel sorry for people that can't give themselves a break or a backbone depending what's needed, and carry on with a big smile in the face of life isn't fair.
Suck it up buttercup! Study up, work on your riding, make the hard decisions with your horses.....those top trainers have **** sure paid their dues.
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Location: IL | 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 10:12 AM
First off I didn't see the other thread that you were commenting on, however, I understand where you are coming from. With that said, there's no reason to be so hard on yourself. Like others have said, there are options. You can breed to a less proven stud or save your money for a higher priced stud. For me personally, I don't have the money to go the breeding route. Realistically, the stud fee is actually the cheapest portion. So much money & time is put into those babies before you're ever able to swing a leg over them. And then you really don't know until you start riding & training on them if they'll turn out the way you want.Not to mention horses are injury prone by nature. And that's a lot of money and time to invest to possibly have things not end up the way you want.
I'm a bargain shopper. And honestly, I'm okay with that. Like I said, I don't have the money to go the breeding route. As much as I'd love to get my hands on a Streak of Fling baby, it's just not going to happen for me. But that's not to stop me from finding a horse that has the right conformation, moves well, and has the drive or willingness to be a great horse for me. Buying the top bloodlines in the industry isn't in the cards for me. So I went out and I bought a TB filly that only cost me $300. It actually cost me more to have her shipped to me than to buy her. I looked for a horse that was built to be able to get around a barrel and was fast out of the gate but wasn't able to go the distance on the track. I watched footage of her races and saw that she fought to hold onto that lead as long as she could. That showed that she had heart & "want to."
I know track horses aren't for everybody. However, they are a good option when looking for a prospect on a budget. Just make sure you do your homework before purchasing.
I got my mare as a late 4 year old. The start of her 5 year old year I did nothing but ground work and foundation training under saddle with her. I wanted to make sure she had a good handle on her before she ever saw a barrel. Her 6 year old year, I started working on the pattern with her. And this year, as a 7 year old I will be hauling her to shows. So like that picture says, if you don't have the funds, sometimes its going to take busting your rear end to get there.
(Sorry for the book, but there's no reason for someone to get down on themselves & give up on a dream. You can get there, it just depends on what you're willing to give up & how hard you want to work for it)
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| I didnt see the thread and am not a breeder but my opinion... there are a lot of local studs in your area. Your area is probably different than mine. But for example, growing up there was a stud... he was a 1d horse himself and he was a hot commodity. His offpsrings were pretty much all 1d horses, some 2d but they won Congress, AQHA Worlds, NBHA Finals, etc... if you asked about him in Texas...chances are people wouldnt have heard of him. But in the 5 state region, he was a legend. He just wasnt campaigned like a lot of those high dollar studs.
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Location: East Texas | Didn't I see where one of the girls at the American paid $800 for her horse?
I know my kids are competing against people who paid more for their hats than we paid for our horses.
I am about to trade one of my "bloodline" horses for an unregistered horse and I think I am getting the better deal.
Some of these posters my sound harsh, but they are being honest. Find a way to make it happen. If your friends do not think you can do it, find new friends. If you want to be a millionaire, find millionaires to talk to. If you want to be a top rider, find top riders to hang out with and talk to. I am new to rodeo and had no idea about this sport until a few years ago (and still do not know much) when my kids wanted to start riding, but I have found several NFR contestants and prca members that live in the area that are extremely nice and willing to help out. My son spent 14hrs at an event a couple of weeks ago, and the guys were awesome with him. They gave him a back number, made him feel welcome, and let him stay behind the chutes the whole time. I am going to throw in a pic of him to ask this..... Do you have the wonder, amazement, and joy that a 7yr old has for the sport? If not, change your attitude.
The mental part of what you want to do is huge. Now go make it happen.
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Location: East Texas | Didn't I see where one of the girls at the American paid $800 for her horse?
I know my kids are competing against people who paid more for their hats than we paid for our horses.
I am about to trade one of my "bloodline" horses for an unregistered horse and I think I am getting the better deal.
Some of these posters my sound harsh, but they are being honest. Find a way to make it happen. If your friends do not think you can do it, find new friends. If you want to be a millionaire, find millionaires to talk to. If you want to be a top rider, find top riders to hang out with and talk to. I am new to rodeo and had no idea about this sport until a few years ago (and still do not know much) when my kids wanted to start riding, but I have found several NFR contestants and prca members that live in the area that are extremely nice and willing to help out. My son spent 14hrs at an event a couple of weeks ago, and the guys were awesome with him. They gave him a back number, made him feel welcome, and let him stay behind the chutes the whole time. I was going to throw in a pic of him to ask this..... Do you have the wonder, amazement, and joy that a 7yr old has for the sport? If not, change your attitude.
The mental part of what you want to do is huge. Now go make it happen.
Edited by CrossDRanch 2015-03-05 1:03 PM
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| Mighty Broke - 2015-03-05 11:32 AM Sometimes people want to look at the end product like a Jolene Montgomery, this young lady has worked her tail off to get where she is and still does to this day. She started out just saddling horses and warming them up for Troy Crumrine and gradually learned, made the right connections and worked her way up the ladder to become an overnight sensation---YEARS in the making.
You have to start with talent and/or the ability to learn, then you either need money or a work ethic and a great work ethic is available to anyone who wants it. | |
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Location: Texas | craigslist has done wonders for me. 
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| casualdust07 - 2015-03-05 1:47 PM craigslist has done wonders for me.
LOL, yes it has!!~ | |
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Location: Where I am happiest | All you defeated and deflated, please please take the time to really watch and listen to this. This is older video, of Amberly Snyder giving a speech on "Over Comming Obstacles". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P278mxzDDYc | |
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| CrossDRanch - 2015-03-05 12:57 PM Didn't I see where one of the girls at the American paid $800 for her horse? I know my kids are competing against people who paid more for their hats than we paid for our horses. I am about to trade one of my "bloodline" horses for an unregistered horse and I think I am getting the better deal. Some of these posters my sound harsh, but they are being honest. Find a way to make it happen. If your friends do not think you can do it, find new friends. If you want to be a millionaire, find millionaires to talk to. If you want to be a top rider, find top riders to hang out with and talk to. I am new to rodeo and had no idea about this sport until a few years ago (and still do not know much) when my kids wanted to start riding, but I have found several NFR contestants and prca members that live in the area that are extremely nice and willing to help out. My son spent 14hrs at an event a couple of weeks ago, and the guys were awesome with him. They gave him a back number, made him feel welcome, and let him stay behind the chutes the whole time. I was going to throw in a pic of him to ask this..... Do you have the wonder, amazement, and joy that a 7yr old has for the sport? If not, change your attitude. The mental part of what you want to do is huge. Now go make it happen.
Check out the back story on Brittany Diaz's horse, Rootie ... http://ontherodeoroad.com/nfrbarrelracerbritanydiaz/
$800, lots of time spent making her ... | |
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... | |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? | |
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| 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"?
I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.  | |
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| Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:26 PM
3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"?
I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.
Then why are you on this thread? To argue!?! | |
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Location: Oklahoma | Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:01 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
I think you are looking for an argument. Many of us don't have the bloodlines and we are just fine | |
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Location: The edge of no where | Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.
If she's got your charming personality.....good luck finding a trainer. | |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself. not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.
Edited to say - a lot of the girls we see on TV - I know too much personal dirt on and wouldn't send mine to them anyway. LOL
Edited by 3canstorun 2015-03-05 3:41 PM
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