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| brlraceaddict - 2015-03-19 5:13 PM classicpotatochip - 2015-03-19 2:51 PM Honestly, I don't have kids. BUT I don't think it makes sense for you to work to break even. Seems like you could quit your job, stay home for your kids who need you, and kick the embroidery up a notch. And learn to make beaded tack. Or painted tack. Or anything to supplement your income. Sell some horses. Have just one barrel horse. Have one rope horse. Stay close to home to compete. Your life has forever changed and will never be the same. Just wait till they want to run barrels and rodeo. Then I bet you'll be out of competing all together until they're out on their own. Just a guess. I guess I just wouldn't want my kids being raised by somebody else, especially if was so I could just break even on my paycheck. Somebody better PAY me to make a sacrifice like that. Retirement and insurance are the big cards in this instance. Those are HUGE, even if breaking even otherwise. I applaud the OP for thinking about saving for retirement at age 25, many do not.
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| I don't have any children yet but too want to supplement income...
Maybe look for some type of product you can sell at your competitions? I would love to do this but just don't know what product to sell. |
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           Location: Kansas | arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved.
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-20 7:59 AM arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved. you're an A$$
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| Most companies that sponsor these days are NOT paying entry fees or giving gas money to haul up and down the road anyway, unless you get a ranch sponsor. When I say "ranch sponsor" I mean a good owner! LOL The only way your going to get someone to pay your way is to work for it and be a jockey good enough that people want their horses in your trailer and will pay you to ride them.
Companies are giving free product or discounts on products and usually they don't even do that for long unless your really talking up their product, available for photos, or always posting and boasting about them on social media. A sponsorship is NOT free money, usually its an exchange for quality tack, supplements, or therapies. Some companies always want you talking up their product and saying things about it enhancing performance, we've lost sponsors because we won't exaggerate to help them sale or push them on people. |
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| Someone will say this is rude, but oh well. Your living for your kids now. You work harder, and and do less fun stuff. That's just the way it is. I'm not saying you have to forgo every pleasure in life, but they become fewer and far between. Park the trailer, and ride at home. |
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     Location: Texas | Bigfoot - 2015-03-20 9:02 AM Someone will say this is rude, but oh well. Your living for your kids now. You work harder, and and do less fun stuff. That's just the way it is. I'm not saying you have to forgo every pleasure in life, but they become fewer and far between. Park the trailer, and ride at home.
Then when they are old enough they go with you!
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-20 7:59 AM
arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved.
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That's not very nice.
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    Location: Gonzales texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-20 7:59 AM
arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved.
you're an A$$Β
It was rude but it made me laugh out loud!!! Haha couldn't help it! Listen I went back to college to be a teacher so I could afford to go. I had quit myself to haul my KIDS. Then they went to college. And had weddings. Now I'm retired and riding again- finally ! But wait -I had to get a substitute job to help pay for starting over and my horses upkeep the way I want it. And now I have 5 beautiful grandkids. There's a lot of birthdays and youth rodeos and ball games etc! So good luck!! And always- KIDs come first - time flies!  |
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      Location: Beggs, OK | shelltc - 2015-03-20 9:38 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-20 7:59 AM arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved. you're an A$$ It was rude but it made me laugh out loud!!! Haha couldn't help it! Listen I went back to college to be a teacher so I could afford to go. I had quit myself to haul my KIDS. Then they went to college. And had weddings. Now I'm retired and riding again- finally ! But wait -I had to get a substitute job to help pay for starting over and my horses upkeep the way I want it. And now I have 5 beautiful grandkids. There's a lot of birthdays and youth rodeos and ball games etc! So good luck!! And always- KIDs come first - time flies! 
I have a 13 yr old, a 5 yr old, and 10mo old twins... I get frustrated sometimes because I just want to have a horse that I can take a few times a year. Lately I can't seem to keep one sound or healthy....but I LOVE Jr Rodeos :-)
I always say that one day my kids are going to leave me and then I'll be able to afford the baddest horse at the barrel race, but I won't be able to keep up with it, lol
Then I'll be that old lady with too much horse that all the young ones mouth about out back because I'm wasting it's potential....but it's mine and they can't afford it  |
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| Honestly, I think when you're sponsored, you end up spending more money. For the most part, you just get a discount from each company. So, instead of the new boots being $200, now they're $80. Cool! Send me two. Instead of the new saddle pad being $400, now it's $190. Neat! Send me two. That new rope is now $20, instead of $40. Excellent! I'll take three.
All you have left at the end of sponsorships is a bunch of old products and a bunch of shirts you can't wear anymore.
It's much better to just get it in gear, make the proper adjustments, cull the horse herd down to the two best ones, and recalibrate the mile radius in which you compete.
The job could probably go, because of all the other options there are for insurance and retirement. I'd stay home and raise my kids, and get learning how to make tack. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-03-20 10:43 AM shelltc - 2015-03-20 9:38 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-20 7:59 AM arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved. you're an A$$ It was rude but it made me laugh out loud!!! Haha couldn't help it! Listen I went back to college to be a teacher so I could afford to go. I had quit myself to haul my KIDS. Then they went to college. And had weddings. Now I'm retired and riding again- finally ! But wait -I had to get a substitute job to help pay for starting over and my horses upkeep the way I want it. And now I have 5 beautiful grandkids. There's a lot of birthdays and youth rodeos and ball games etc! So good luck!! And always- KIDs come first - time flies!  I have a 13 yr old, a 5 yr old, and 10mo old twins... I get frustrated sometimes because I just want to have a horse that I can take a few times a year. Lately I can't seem to keep one sound or healthy....but I LOVE Jr Rodeos :-)
I always say that one day my kids are going to leave me and then I'll be able to afford the baddest horse at the barrel race, but I won't be able to keep up with it, lol
Then I'll be that old lady with too much horse that all the young ones mouth about out back because I'm wasting it's potential....but it's mine and they can't afford it 
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| classicpotatochip - 2015-03-20 10:45 AM
Honestly, I think when you're sponsored, you end up spending more money. For the most part, you just get a discount from each company. So, instead of the new boots being $200, now they're $80. Cool! Send me two. Instead of the new saddle pad being $400, now it's $190. Neat! Send me two. That new rope is now $20, instead of $40. Excellent! I'll take three.
All you have left at the end of sponsorships is a bunch of old products and a bunch of shirts you can't wear anymore.
It's much better to just get it in gear, make the proper adjustments, cull the horse herd down to the two best ones, and recalibrate the mile radius in which you compete.
The job could probably go, because of all the other options there are for insurance and retirement. I'd stay home and raise my kids, and get learning how to make tack.
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| You can always ask, the worst they can do is say no.... But sponsorships aren't all about, they give you money and you wear a patch or a sticker on your car. It's busting your hump advertising for them and promoting them. We got sponsored by several larger companies this year including a truck from Dodge, but the hours we put in trying to keep that sponsorship and advertise for them, it's almost not worth it. They 1099 you at the end of the year so don't go blowing your money and not be able to pay the taxes on it, don't ruin any of their equipment or your ass is fired(so to speak), and they better see some return on their sponsorship. When you hear people tell you, "tell them "so&so" sent you" it's probably because they need proof they are making the sponsor money, not that they are going to give you some kind of a deal for mentioning their name. Unless your a professional and everyone wants to be like you, getting and maintaining sponsorships is hard! |
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | It boils down to priorities……when my babies were young, I didn’t compete. My husband trained and showed horses and competed in rodeos. I worked a full time job, kept the home going and exercised all of the horses while he worked TWO jobs (regular and farrier). Many times he would have to stop shoeing a horse to get on his to compete. Then, along came the ponies for another few years. It wasn’t until I was 26 or 27 that my husband QUIT showing and the boys and I were able to go up and down the road. Then we juggled Jr rodeos, High School rodeos, Open/ IPRA Rodeos and jackpots. And I never would have asked for money......it is not the job of a business to "fund" the "fun" of others........ |
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    Location: Gonzales texas | astreakinchic - 2015-03-20 9:46 AM
rachellyn80 - 2015-03-20 10:43 AM shelltc - 2015-03-20 9:38 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-20 7:59 AM arion - 2015-03-20 7:08 AM It would seem to me that if you are needing help with fees to enter a rodeo that you may have more problems that lack of funds. Like maybe you both suck. Win and you are self funded. Bing Bang problem solved. you're an A$$Β It was rude but it made me laugh out loud!!! Haha couldn't help it! Listen I went back to college to be a teacher so I could afford to go. I had quit myself to haul my KIDS. Then they went to college. And had weddings. Now I'm retired and riding again- finally ! But wait -I had to get a substitute job to help pay for starting over and my horses upkeep the way I want it. And now I have 5 beautiful grandkids. There's a lot of birthdays and youth rodeos and ball games etc! So good luck!! And always- KIDs come first - time flies!  I have a 13 yr old, a 5 yr old, and 10mo old twins... Β I get frustrated sometimes because I just want to have a horse that I can take a few times a year. Β Lately I can't seem to keep one sound or healthy....but I LOVE Jr Rodeos :-)
I always say that one day my kids are going to leave me and then I'll be able to afford the baddest horse at the barrel race, but I won't be able to keep up with it, lol Β
Then I'll be that old lady with too much horse that all the young ones mouth about out back because I'm wasting it's potential....but it's mine and they can't afford itΒ 
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That's me! 2 frenchmans fabulous colts!! An awesome 4yr old I'm "riding" almost ready to exhibition, and a fancy yearling. Now I gotta go pay for core strengthening exercise lol! |
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   Location: Buffalo, TX | I would say a lot of it has to do with the level you want to compete at and what the cost is to go at that level....like someone else said, if you just want to have fun and make runs, you can always save money by going to the cheaper playdays and smaller jackpots and still have fun on a budget.....When my son was born (long time ago...LOL), I went to little budget type shows close to home for several years and I only got to go a couple times a month...but I worked hard at upgrading my horse and doing the best with what I had to deal with at the time on training, and eventually I had a horse good enough to go to better things and rodeos and place regularly, so it paid for itself, and it kept getting better from there...
I think a major key to moving up from hobby (fun and spending money and not getting much of it back) to making money with your barrel racing is to work hard at upgrading your horse....you have to be realistic with what you are riding and be willing to let go of what isn't working and work on your training skills and horsemanship so you can recognize when you have a good horse or one you need to ship down the road and get something that works better, and then you have to have the skills to pick out a better horse and keep it working and winning....
On the other hand, if you are wanting to go to the big barrel races that charge bigger entry fees and need stalls etc, then it's harder because unless you have a consistent 1D horse, where you have a chance of getting a check most of the time, then we all know it's potluck with the D's, and that makes it a hobby deal because you can't count on placing in the lower D's unless you are lucky....
And if you are wanting to rodeo, especially in an association, you have membership dues, stock charges, higher entry fees and tough competition, so I would say don't rodeo unless you have a horse that can place enough to pay his way....rodeo is tough, and is an expensive hobby if you don't place...and maybe you could make or sell some products to horse people, or be a dealer for something...I see lots of girls who sell a product line or tack and make enough money to pay their way...good luck! |
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           Location: Florida.. | You can also establish your name and training and take on other peoples horses and compete.. They usually pay the entrys..it takes time and alot of determination |
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        Location: Sunny So Cal | Doing books on the side! Once everything is straightened out in the financial books they are usually fairly easy to do and don't take a long time. My mom currently does books for 5 different companies. Some are bigger so she has to go in a few days a week but it is only for like 3 or 4 hours and some she does every Saturday for a few hours. And some she does at home because she accesses them online. You could do them while at a show as long as you have internet. Just have to find the right company. |
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