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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SaraJean - 2015-03-21 7:31 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-21 4:46 PM I keep going back to the pictures, to me if he was barefooted and just shoed I would not think his heels would be contracted they would have some spread to them. Barefoot only benefits a horse if the trim is correct. If the horse is in the hands of a crummy trimmer being barefoot doesn't help anything.
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Location: ND | I don't like the work on either of your horses. The bay is a little better than the sorrel but still way more heel than I like. The sorrels feet look terrible (and I'm not saying this to be harsh to you) but he needs some major changes. His heels are underrun as well as way to high & i do not like how the farrier is dubbing the toe off in the front to "fit" into where he has the shoe set. |
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Location: ND | I'm going to post this just for comparison for you. I put the right front on your horse next to the same foot on one of mine. This is a horse I recently bought & am still working on getting is feet where I want him as I'm not totally happy with them yet but we're getting there.
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Location: SE Louisiana | SaraJean - 2015-03-21 7:38 PM
I'm going to post this just for comparison for you. I put the right front on your horse next to the same foot on one of mine. This is a horse I recently bought & am still working on getting is feet where I want him as I'm not totally happy with them yet but we're getting there.
Wow!! You have a good farrier... You can see the growth rings all the way down to the toe nail!!! (nice clenches too)  |
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Location: ND | komet. - 2015-03-21 6:46 PM SaraJean - 2015-03-21 7:38 PM I'm going to post this just for comparison for you. I put the right front on your horse next to the same foot on one of mine. This is a horse I recently bought & am still working on getting is feet where I want him as I'm not totally happy with them yet but we're getting there. Wow!! You have a good farrier... You can see the growth rings all the way down to the toe nail!!! (nice clenches too )
Lol he's 6 years old, only been trimmed twice in his life before I brought him home in December. |
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Location: Phoenix | Hmm....this was the barefoot trim done in January. (Then shoes were put on in February, and now we at the end of March in the same set of shoes).
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Location: ND | I like the barefoot trim a lot better. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Are those old sole bruises?? All that black?? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I like the barefoot trim better too |
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Location: Phoenix | So can I try and shoot for the barefoot shape and put shoes on? If I do that, are there chances of it growing back the "wrong" way? I just don't think I have the patience to transition. Not to mention my horse is a complete baby and was 3 legged lame/ouchy. I know there's a boot, but I worry about them rubbing or falling off. I know I didn't try long last time, but I figured it was better to put him back into what he's always had: shoes. Ugh I'm so exasperated and worn out from worrying about this. I don't know if I should find another shoer (wouldn't know where to start) or if I should try this guy one more time and state my concerns. I mean, my horse isn't lame, so I shouldn't be beating myself up, but there's the center sulcus thrush and then I worry about permanent damage....if only the forum would recognize the emojis I want to use right now.....mostly the pouty sad ones!!
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Location: ND | Any chance you could get the barefoot trimmer to shoe? I have no issues with a horse being shod as long as the trim is correct underneath. |
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Location: Phoenix | I checked with her and she said she's only done the glue on ones.... |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Glue ons could be really helpful! Check out the new ones from easy care! I'm sure he was sore in a barefoot trim, you can see in the barefoot pics he doesn't have much of a frog and looks thrushy there too. So I'm guessing he would land toe first to protect the ouchy back of his foot. He will need protection in the form of boots or glue ons till that thrush is cleared up and he can build a healthy frog. |
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| How long has this horse had these shoes on? Looks like a ton of wear on the shoes and nail heads. If that's the case we cant judge the shoe job accurately. The second horse you posted, nothing wrong with that shoe job from the pictures. My impression is that this is a way over due shoe job and you can't say the farrier is bad from these pics. Show some pictures of a fresh shoe job. |
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Location: Phoenix | He's due to be shod. But so is the other horse. Perhaps he needs a shorter shoeing interval. I think I will try and pull his shoes the day before the shoer comes and do a round of Clean Trax to kill the thrush. In the meantime I will start treating the cracks this week. I've never had any experience with thrush so this is all new to me. His stall stays pretty dry and clean, but I know stalling doesn't help but he gets to stay turned out for 2 nights a week. |
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| What makes you think he has thrush? Every horse grows a different foot at a different pace. Some need to be done 4 weeks on the dot, some 6, 8, etc. You can't really go by a number for every horse. If you are afraid of thrush just wrap with sugar/iodine paste for a few days. But I don't think your horse looks thrushy. I honestly think you are worrying about nothing. And you said he is sound. Don't make a problem out of nothing, just get him reset more often IMHO People have an ideal foot in their head and think that's how all horses should be |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Since this was the first time this shoer shoed this horse I would give him another try, I would show him the pictures of the barefoot trim and show him the angles of the foot and how the heel is sitting. How long ago was this horse shoed? If this horse growns this much heel in a short time I would be having him reset more offten.
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Location: Phoenix | UPDATE 3/28: Had a different shoer out today. Another gal at the barn was using him and he was highly recommended. I really liked what I saw. He was explaining things to me and didn't do that thing where they rasp the hoof to meet the shoe. He said he had pretty thin walls, and you could see the bruising where the coffin bone was coming down because he was so steep. I felt so bad!!!! ??. I'm going to see how it all pans out but I think he did a good job. Time will tell but I'm hoping some other "slight" lameness issues will be resolved as his coffin bone gets to the correct angle. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | I would like to see pictures of the new shoer job. |
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| skye - 2015-03-28 10:20 PM
I would like to see pictures of the new shoer job.
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