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| Chandler's Mom - 2015-04-04 8:04 PM
MNcanchaser7 - 2015-04-04 1:30 PM
It's a "new to me" featherlite 4 horse that I worked my ass off for. It's my "step up" from a steel two horse bumper pull and it was in basically brand new condition when I bought it. The dents are on the outside of the trailer along the white long wall. It was dark when it happened but she did see the dents... I just sent her the pics but theres not really been any offer to pay and I feel awkward asking as it will be an expensive repair. Its not a trailer I plan on keeping forever and would someday like to trade it in and get a better living quarters and it seriously devalues the trailer....
Even tho it might be expensive, it happened because of her horse. Yes there will be dents and dings and normal wear and tear, but I'd make her aware of the cost at least. If my horse did something like that I'd be writing a check.
I'm planning on letting her know what the repair cost will be... We will just go from there I suppose. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | Years ago, I hauled a horse for a "friend." That sucker chewed the heck out of the window seal. She noticed it immediately. Not only was I never offered repairs but I never got an apology either. The no apology made me way madder than the damage. It takes a lot to make me mad enough not do something for someone but her lack of respect for me was enough, I never hauled the horse again. It could of all been resolved, for me, with a few simple words.
I understand things can happen when hauling but a true friend should not have to be asked to make something right. At least she should apologize and ask how she can make things right with the situation, then you can decide from there. |
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| I hate to hear this and I hope she "friends" up like a decent person should, if not you may want to rethink your friendship.
Does she look at BHW? You might not have to say anything to her. You gave specifics and she should be able to figure out it is her.  |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | You never answered if you have insurance on your trailer. If you do, put in an insurance claim and have her pay the deductible. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | MNcanchaser7 - 2015-04-04 6:09 PM
It is dented on the white long wall, not on the shiny portion. She can absolutely afford the repairs, but it's not worth our friendship to twist her arm into paying for it... I guess it is what it is. 
She can afford it and didn't offer to pay?!?! I would no longer be friends with this person. That is just a lack of respect for your things and I don't believe that's how a friend should act. If she couldn't afford it, that's something different. Sometimes with things like this, it's a small price to pay to rid your life of a user before it costs you any more money or heartache.
I have a tendency to put people on a pedestal when we are friends and some do take advantage of that. Some people don't have a good sense of boundaries and, before you know it, they're taking liberties that are not ok with you and your things. It might just be a glimpse into who she really is.
Only other thing that comes to mind is be sure you didn't say anything when it happened like "oh, that's ok." That might have given her the impression that you were ok with it. |
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| MNcanchaser7 - 2015-04-04 1:30 PM
It's a "new to me" featherlite 4 horse that I worked my ass off for. It's my "step up" from a steel two horse bumper pull and it was in basically brand new condition when I bought it. The dents are on the outside of the trailer along the white long wall. It was dark when it happened but she did see the dents... I just sent her the pics but theres not really been any offer to pay and I feel awkward asking as it will be an expensive repair. Its not a trailer I plan on keeping forever and would someday like to trade it in and get a better living quarters and it seriously devalues the trailer....
Since you want to maintain your friendship ... next time she wants to haul with you .. ask what horse she is taking. If it is the same kicker .. Make a comment to your friend >> >> "I got a repair estimate of such and such and as you know, I can't afford to have the kick dents repaired and no way is that horse ever getting in my trailer again and tear it up some more." and laugh..
If your friend does not pick up on your statement ... just stand by your word and don't haul that particular horse anymore. ..
My main peeve on most aluminum horse trailers is the main tie and active area is on the wrong side of the trailer (left side) where your dressing room/LQ doors are. As you know for years trailers were made with the active side and safest side on the right side. (RV travel trailers are required to have doors located on the right side for safety reasons and with water electric hookups on the left side to matchup with the way RV parks are built)
I have seen some dandy horse and cat fights when leftie and rightie trailers are parked too close to each other with horses tied rump to rump to each other.
I am curious on how this tied up horse kicked your long white wall on the right side of trailer .. if it was tied up correctly .. I have never seen a horse be able to turn its rump around enough to kick the right hand sidewall. Paw one . .. yes.. which usually leaves a scrape mark along with the dent. Do you recall if another leftie trailer was parked close to you to have done the damage??
You have learned a lesson ... tie your horses in the ribbed sided areas .. that ribbed area triples the strength of a trailers sidewall.
Even if she pays .. go by a car body shop or call the hail no dent guys that fix dents on cars for estimates. Since your dent area is single wall .. it may be simple for a car body guy to walk out and pound it flat in 10 minutes from the inside of the trailer with another guy pressing on the outside wall with a weighted or wood block thingy to flatten the dents.... aluminum is stretchable.
DIY: You will be surprised what dry ice can do on dents .. Let hot summer sun shine on the dents .. try both sides pressing the naked blocks of dry ice on the dents ... and for overkill .. you and a buddy have hammers and two blocks of wood to tap simultaneously from both sides while metal is still cold from the dry ice .. The blocks of wood keep scratches to a minimum or wrap them in duct tape to protect the paint even more.
GOOD LUCK
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-04-05 1:56 AM OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! Get a life!!! What's next?? Are you going to sue someone because their horse farted in you're general direction?? Let me introduce you to horses... Her horse colics while riding in Your trailer... Because you suck as a driver.... Let's get ready!!!! Grow up!!!! I'm sorry to everyone else.. I'm tired of these sorrya$$ GD whinea$$ crybabies!!
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Location: Texas | If it was my horse trailer and I was in your shoes, a simple yet sincere apology would suffice for me. Not only because it is just a trailer (materialistic object) but also because I know the territory that comes with owning/hauling horses - or any livestock for that matter.
I would assume and pray to God that you have insurance on this trailer. (In the state of Texas, any vehicle has to have atleast liability insurance, no matter what the value is.)
If you do not have any insurance on the trailer, it's your own fault and had no business hauling your friend's horse. Heaven forbid you had gotten into a wreck and injured/killed your friend's horse, but you would be paying for a new horse.
So, assuming you have insurance, you should just make a claim - that's the point of having insurance.
OR like someone else suggested, wait until your ready to sell or trade the trailer in or wait until more damages occur to have everything fixed at once.  |
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| Maybe you can try a car repair place that has one of those things that pops dents out of cars just using a suction cup thingee. Sorry, don't know what they are called but it's an inexpensive fix if it's the right kind of dent and not to big, it might work. I'd try that first.
Otherwise, take a few photos and send to Featherlite to see what they recommend, ask about how much it would cost and see if they can recommend someone in your area to fix it. Since its an aluminum trailer it will need to be fixed by someone knowledgeable working with aluminum, especially if any welding is needed. I'm guessing the cost might be more than it's worth. Also check with your insurance, maybe it's covered and they will pay. The friend should have apologized and offered to have it fixed or at least help with paying to get it fixed. I do know how you feel about it being a trailer you worked hard to get but in the end it's going to get dinged and scratched with normal use. |
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Location: Iowa | Get the estimate and present it to her and allow her to make payments. She's probably scared and embarrassed that her horse did this too.
Do you have pictures you can post on here?
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| komet. - 2015-04-05 1:56 AM
OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! Get a life!!! What's next?? Are you going to sue someone because their horse farted in you're general direction??
Let me introduce you to horses... Her horse colics while riding in Your trailer... Because you suck as a driver.... Let's get ready!!!! Grow up!!!!
I'm sorry to everyone else.. I'm tired of these sorrya$$ GD whinea$$ crybabies!!
Why would you even waste the time to post this? You're rude. This statement is so far off base, and so far from being even remotely helpful. Go find another thread to troll on please, your comments are useless. If it was some kind of freak accident that would be one thing, it wasn't. The mare is notorious for being an idiot while tied and stalled and she usually has kick chains with her. The owner was gone getting water when this all happened and I wasn't watching the mare. Usually we don't need to... If the damage wasn't so severe I wouldn't even blink at it. I AM AWARE that my trailer will receive dents and dings... that's part of hauling horses. This mare kicked the CRAP out of a 5ft span of the trailer. It's not usual wear and tear it is damage. I have been friends with this girl for a really long time and she is a dear, DEAR, friend to me. Maybe she sits on the same side of the fence of those of you who have commented saying $hit happens... She has already said she's done hauling the mare with other people from now on, as it's no fun for her to have to babysit her anyhow. The trailer will get fixed, and whether she pays or not our friendship will remain intact... It's a lesson on my part of what kind of horse to haul and where they should be tied. She shouldn't have been on the long wall portion. |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-04-04 11:26 PM
You never answered if you have insurance on your trailer. If you do, put in an insurance claim and have her pay the deductible.
Yes it is insured. |
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| Everyone who commented something helpful, THANK YOU! :) This is unchartered territory for me, and I've been sick over it since it happened.. Happy Easter! |
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Location: Austin, Texas, where it can get really weird!! | I used to feel this way, "its just stuff right". No its not just stuff, I worked way hard for that equipment. I didn't buy tons but i bought quality when i did. I was taken advantage of by a "friend" who i let her use whatever ever she wanted bc she was my bf, I heard she broke her clippers but they were really mine she had so long she just considered them "hers". i finally saw her pics on face book lunging a horse she was getting paid to train in a creek wearing my only pair of sport boots at the time. It was the straw that broke the camels back. I took my rose colored glasses of and saw the tack she ruined, my trailer she used and never swept out. Your friends should treat you the way you them not take advantage of you. Never again! |
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-04-05 2:36 AM
MNcanchaser7 - 2015-04-04 1:30 PM
It's a "new to me" featherlite 4 horse that I worked my ass off for. It's my "step up" from a steel two horse bumper pull and it was in basically brand new condition when I bought it. The dents are on the outside of the trailer along the white long wall. It was dark when it happened but she did see the dents... I just sent her the pics but theres not really been any offer to pay and I feel awkward asking as it will be an expensive repair. Its not a trailer I plan on keeping forever and would someday like to trade it in and get a better living quarters and it seriously devalues the trailer....
Since you want to maintain your friendship ... next time she wants to haul with you .. ask what horse she is taking. If it is the same kicker .. Make a comment to your friend >> >> "I got a repair estimate of such and such and as you know, I can't afford to have the kick dents repaired and no way is that horse ever getting in my trailer again and tear it up some more." and laugh..
If your friend does not pick up on your statement ... just stand by your word and don't haul that particular horse anymore. ..
My main peeve on most aluminum horse trailers is the main tie and active area is on the wrong side of the trailer (left side ) where your dressing room/LQ doors are. As you know for years trailers were made with the active side and safest side on the right side. (RV travel trailers are required to have doors located on the right side for safety reasons and with water electric hookups on the left side to matchup with the way RV parks are built )
I have seen some dandy horse and cat fights when leftie and rightie trailers are parked too close to each other with horses tied rump to rump to each other.
I am curious on how this tied up horse kicked your long white wall on the right side of trailer .. if it was tied up correctly .. I have never seen a horse be able to turn its rump around enough to kick the right hand sidewall. Paw one . .. yes.. which usually leaves a scrape mark along with the dent. Do you recall if another leftie trailer was parked close to you to have done the damage??
You have learned a lesson ... tie your horses in the ribbed sided areas .. that ribbed area triples the strength of a trailers sidewall.
Even if she pays .. go by a car body shop or call the hail no dent guys that fix dents on cars for estimates. Since your dent area is single wall .. it may be simple for a car body guy to walk out and pound it flat in 10 minutes from the inside of the trailer with another guy pressing on the outside wall with a weighted or wood block thingy to flatten the dents.... aluminum is stretchable.
DIY: You will be surprised what dry ice can do on dents .. Let hot summer sun shine on the dents .. try both sides pressing the naked blocks of dry ice on the dents ... and for overkill .. you and a buddy have hammers and two blocks of wood to tap simultaneously from both sides while metal is still cold from the dry ice .. The blocks of wood keep scratches to a minimum or wrap them in duct tape to protect the paint even more.
GOOD LUCK
She was tied on the ring closest to the front of the trailer on the right side. In hind sight that was probably horrible place for her to be. She just turned her self sideways and kicked the trailer with her hind right leg repeatedly. I heard it and when I ran out she was in that same position, obviously ****ed off, trying to do it again. |
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Location: TN | Nevertooold - 2015-04-04 11:26 PM You never answered if you have insurance on your trailer. If you do, put in an insurance claim and have her pay the deductible.
This is what I would suggest too. My SO's mare kicked a friend's trailer door and dented it up. He paid the deductible when she turned it into insurance to have it fixed. |
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| Investigate your insurance before using it and look at the deductible and compare to
your damage estimate.
I think everyone is aware of the fact that insurance companies will move your policy
to a bad list because you made a claim.
Their revenge is usually going up on your truck and other vehicles polices by a $100 each for the next 5 years which amounts to a lot of money when on a 6 month renewal insurance program.
It might take a year for this to catch up with you since their
underwriters review each policy on a delayed computer generated list that has made a damage claim. It may even cost you points on your drivers license depending on the
state you live in regardless of the root cause of the claim. Their computers have no common sense and will automatically tag your license from insurance data.
This is the reason you see so many people paying for damage with their own money instead of using their insurance... especially if you have teenage drivers on your policies!!
Next time your policies come due .. get an identical policy quote from Shelter ins. Co.
they only operate in 16 states. They have saved me tons of money... and I liked their answer when I asked why they were so much lower than my previous company.....>> Answered: We have no massive advertising expenses and our name is not on any Nascar or gigantic football stadiums.....
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-04-05 9:50 PM
Investigate your insurance before using it and look at the deductible and compare to
your damage estimate.
I think everyone is aware of the fact that insurance companies will move your policy
to a bad list because you made a claim.
Their revenge is usually going up on your truck and other vehicles polices by a $100 each for the next 5 years which amounts to a lot of money when on a 6 month renewal insurance program.
It might take a year for this to catch up with you since their
underwriters review each policy on a delayed computer generated list that has made a damage claim. It may even cost you points on your drivers license depending on the
state you live in regardless of the root cause of the claim. Their computers have no common sense and will automatically tag your license from insurance data.
This is the reason you see so many people paying for damage with their own money instead of using their insurance... especially if you have teenage drivers on your policies!!
Next time your policies come due .. get an identical policy quote from Shelter ins. Co.
they only operate in 16 states. They have saved me tons of money... and I liked their answer when I asked why they were so much lower than my previous company.....>> Answered: We have no massive advertising expenses and our name is not on any Nascar or gigantic football stadiums.....
Wow great info! Thank you! My deductible is $750. I'm assuming the damage repair will be around that, possibly more... Going to get on the phone tomorrow and look around. |
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| K this is my opinion and not at all trying to sound rude in any way here... But you say you were fully aware the mare was notorious for bad behavior. So knowing that When you agreed to haul her you had to of assumed the risks. Horses will definitely be horses and can't be controlled 100% of the time. In my opinion this is a lesson learned, and I've been in your position and it sucks... If the trailer means that much to you, you shouldn't be hauling anyone's horses but your own, so any damage done is done by your horses ya know? I hope all goes well for everyone involved! |
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If I was the one with the ill mannered horse and my horse caused damage to my friend's trailer I would be apologizing and doing whatever was needed to make it right. I would absolutely pay for the repair. It shouldn't even be something they would have to ask.
Say what you will...I know you call her a dear friend. But if she balks at the repair bill...I'd consider her a "casual friend" and nothing more. If she doesn't offer to pay the bill she is clearly telling you that YOU are not HER dear friend.
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