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| cheryl makofka - 2015-04-12 10:57 PM The other half is obsessed with game of thrones, and he just told me the first 5 episodes were leaked onto the Internet, he is now debating on if he is watching them early, or waiting. HBO I guess is not happy
lol. I'll wait for quality purposes. Plus. I support Hbo and already by then channel, we record them too. I kind of like having adedicated tv show night on sunday evenings | |
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Location: Missouri | I read the books and I have come to the conclusion.....the show sucks :( The books are so much better and I have ruined myself on the show. I will keep my mouth shut about what happens but....IT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | mlh0972 - 2015-04-13 9:16 AM I read the books and I have come to the conclusion.....the show sucks :( The books are so much better and I have ruined myself on the show. I will keep my mouth shut about what happens but....IT'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
I bought the series of books to read and the printing is so small that even with my cheaters I can't read very long as it gives me a headache.
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Location: Missouri | So far I can't choose. I absolutely love how he goes to each chapter with a new character! | |
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| mlh0972 - 2015-04-20 6:45 AM
So far I can't choose. I absolutely love how he goes to each chapter with a new character!
I hated that in the last book.
But so far it's my favorite. There's just a LOT of new characters, most of which I can't remember it's been so long since I read them. I'll have to re-read the series when he releases his last few books. At this rate... I'll be married with kids and enduring my career as a zoologist by then | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | mlh0972 - 2015-04-20 6:45 AM So far I can't choose. I absolutely love how he goes to each chapter with a new character!
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Location: CA | svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on.
I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. | |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways.
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drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. I think you mean Jon Snow not Rob. lol! But Ned Stark was always a just man. If Jon was his sisters child, I think that he would acknowledge him as as family. He could always keep Robert in check. I still think Jon Snow is a Wilding. That is why he loves the life so much.
Robert most definitely would have killed Jon had he known that he was Lyanna/Ragar's child. Ragar "stole" Lyana from Robert, and that's what started the overthrowing of the Tragaryans. Lyanna was the "Helen of Troy". And then Lyanna dies, we don't know how yet. My thoughts are that she died birthing Jon, and Ned took him to winterfell to protect him from Robert. Ned lived and died on his honor, I don't see him ACTUALLY having a bastard son; I DO see him claiming to have one and suffering the consequences of it in order to protect the innocent child of his dead sister though. | |
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| svincent - 2015-04-24 1:51 PM rockette - 2015-04-24 11:05 AM drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. I think you mean Jon Snow not Rob. lol! But Ned Stark was always a just man. If Jon was his sisters child, I think that he would acknowledge him as as family. He could always keep Robert in check. I still think Jon Snow is a Wilding. That is why he loves the life so much. Robert most definitely would have killed Jon had he known that he was Lyanna/Ragar's child. Ragar "stole" Lyana from Robert, and that's what started the overthrowing of the Tragaryans. Lyanna was the "Helen of Troy". And then Lyanna dies, we don't know how yet. My thoughts are that she died birthing Jon, and Ned took him to winterfell to protect him from Robert. Ned lived and died on his honor, I don't see him ACTUALLY having a bastard son; I DO see him claiming to have one and suffering the consequences of it in order to protect the innocent child of his dead sister though.
The last chapter of the last book though has is allllll hanging in the air by a thread. We won't know until he finishes those darn books! old fart needs to get moving!  I personally think believe about 75% that arya and danny will be 'two heads of the dragon' hmmm could snow be the third or will it be the lions son! lol | |
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drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. I think you mean Jon Snow not Rob. lol! But Ned Stark was always a just man. If Jon was his sisters child, I think that he would acknowledge him as as family. He could always keep Robert in check. I still think Jon Snow is a Wilding. That is why he loves the life so much.
Jon loves the life of a wildling because it's everything he's ever wanted and nothing he's ever had. He was raised with the Starks and taught the same values but not given the same rights. Honor, sacrifice, duty, all come at a price. They (the Stark children) were all highborn and would marry into other highborn families, have little Lord's and ladies of their own, be the protectors of their lands and lead their people. Jon was raised in this fashion but also knew he'd never have it because he was a bastard, he didn't have the right name.
It made me sad when he talked about the one girl he 'nearly' went all the way with. He said he didn't because he didn't want to father another bastard, put an innocent child in the same situation he was in.
Everything is different with the wildlings though, you get out of it what you put into it and no one is telling you what you can and can't do because of your name and titles, or lack there of. It's freedom. | |
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drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. I think you mean Jon Snow not Rob. lol! But Ned Stark was always a just man. If Jon was his sisters child, I think that he would acknowledge him as as family. He could always keep Robert in check. I still think Jon Snow is a Wilding. That is why he loves the life so much.
Jon loves the life of a wildling because it's everything he's ever wanted and nothing he's ever had. He was raised with the Starks and taught the same values but not given the same rights. Honor, sacrifice, duty, all come at a price. They (the Stark children ) were all highborn and would marry into other highborn families, have little Lord's and ladies of their own, be the protectors of their lands and lead their people. Jon was raised in this fashion but also knew he'd never have it because he was a bastard, he didn't have the right name.
It made me sad when he talked about the one girl he 'nearly' went all the way with. He said he didn't because he didn't want to father another bastard, put an innocent child in the same situation he was in.
Everything is different with the wildlings though, you get out of it what you put into it and no one is telling you what you can and can't do because of your name and titles, or lack there of. It's freedom.
I agree with you. But the Starks still have Bran, Rickon, and Eddard younger brother. Jon Snow being a Targaryen is too easy. Plus I think his hair is too dark. lol. Maybe Jon Snow is a Baratheon? Robert would have already been married to Cersi, perhaps that is why Ned Stark saved him. | |
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drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. I think you mean Jon Snow not Rob. lol! But Ned Stark was always a just man. If Jon was his sisters child, I think that he would acknowledge him as as family. He could always keep Robert in check. I still think Jon Snow is a Wilding. That is why he loves the life so much.
Jon loves the life of a wildling because it's everything he's ever wanted and nothing he's ever had. He was raised with the Starks and taught the same values but not given the same rights. Honor, sacrifice, duty, all come at a price. They (the Stark children ) were all highborn and would marry into other highborn families, have little Lord's and ladies of their own, be the protectors of their lands and lead their people. Jon was raised in this fashion but also knew he'd never have it because he was a bastard, he didn't have the right name.
It made me sad when he talked about the one girl he 'nearly' went all the way with. He said he didn't because he didn't want to father another bastard, put an innocent child in the same situation he was in.
Everything is different with the wildlings though, you get out of it what you put into it and no one is telling you what you can and can't do because of your name and titles, or lack there of. It's freedom.
I agree with you. But the Starks still have Bran, Rickon, and Eddard younger brother. Jon Snow being a Targaryen is too easy. Plus I think his hair is too dark. lol. Maybe Jon Snow is a Baratheon? Robert would have already been married to Cersi, perhaps that is why Ned Stark saved him.
I had wondered if he was a Baratheon (the hair! lol), but Robert and Cersi weren't married at that time...so what would Jon have needed saving from? Robert already had his first bastard, his daughter, Mya Stone. So what's one more? It was Jon Arryn who convinced Robert to marry Cersi after the rebellion.
What I meant about the Starks was that, Jon was raised in that house with those same morals, but he was never to live that life. That's why life as a wildling would've been pleasing, he could've gotten out of life what he put in it. Get married, have a family, have a place to be live if they decided to stay in one spot. Not a care in the world about 'what's your name and title'?
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drivemaround - 2015-04-24 10:26 AM svincent - 2015-04-11 10:44 PM My theory on Jon Snow is that he is the son of Leanna Stark and Ragar Tragaryan - NOT Ned's bastard. I think Ned raised him as such to protect him from Robert. I also think, that eventually Jon and Dany end up together. I read/listened to the books before watching the show. Producers have said that they are planning for seven seasons. The end of the fourth season coincided with the end of the third book. Books four and five happen simultaneously, just feature more narrating characters. They could easily got books four and five into a single season, which makes for two more seasons that will coincide with the last two books. GRRM has said in past interviews that producers of the show have full knowledge of how the stories end, so even if he dies before the books are finished - the show will go on. I was surprised to see no one agreed with you! I agreee 100% that Rob is Lyanna Stark and Roger Targaryens son. There is no way he is not a stark, Ned would never have put his family through raising a bastard if it wasnt family. I have also read all the books and i think we will see some interesting stuff (if the next book ever comes out) between the red women and Rob. She needs to get her head out of her butt and realize there is a reason she sees snow everytime she asks the lord of light about the proper king and not Stannis. It would also make sense since targaryens usually marry within the family. Dany would be his aunt and they would both have dragon blood. Im still undecided about who will be the third dragon rider i think it could go a lot of ways. I think you mean Jon Snow not Rob. lol! But Ned Stark was always a just man. If Jon was his sisters child, I think that he would acknowledge him as as family. He could always keep Robert in check. I still think Jon Snow is a Wilding. That is why he loves the life so much.
Jon loves the life of a wildling because it's everything he's ever wanted and nothing he's ever had. He was raised with the Starks and taught the same values but not given the same rights. Honor, sacrifice, duty, all come at a price. They (the Stark children ) were all highborn and would marry into other highborn families, have little Lord's and ladies of their own, be the protectors of their lands and lead their people. Jon was raised in this fashion but also knew he'd never have it because he was a bastard, he didn't have the right name.
It made me sad when he talked about the one girl he 'nearly' went all the way with. He said he didn't because he didn't want to father another bastard, put an innocent child in the same situation he was in.
Everything is different with the wildlings though, you get out of it what you put into it and no one is telling you what you can and can't do because of your name and titles, or lack there of. It's freedom.
I agree with you. But the Starks still have Bran, Rickon, and Eddard younger brother. Jon Snow being a Targaryen is too easy. Plus I think his hair is too dark. lol. Maybe Jon Snow is a Baratheon? Robert would have already been married to Cersi, perhaps that is why Ned Stark saved him.
I had wondered if he was a Baratheon (the hair! lol ), but Robert and Cersi weren't married at that time...so what would Jon have needed saving from? Robert already had his first bastard, his daughter, Mya Stone. So what's one more? It was Jon Arryn who convinced Robert to marry Cersi after the rebellion.
What I meant about the Starks was that, Jon was raised in that house with those same morals, but he was never to live that life. That's why life as a wildling would've been pleasing, he could've gotten out of life what he put in it. Get married, have a family, have a place to be live if they decided to stay in one spot. Not a care in the world about 'what's your name and title'?
Well I still think that Tyrion is the secret Targaryen. I think Dario is a Greyjoy. Maybe Jon Snow belongs to someone from Dorne, the house Martell. | |
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