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Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment.
Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out.
Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL | |
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| mreklaw - 2015-06-23 10:22 AM The difference between a "Big" barrel race down here and a local race is most true 1D or high dollar rodeo horses aren't gonna run for $250 at a local race. That is not to say those girls wont show up with their colts but not their good horses. Just look at the names and different horses that show up at a Gonzales Wrapn3 where the 1D winner will win $600 versus $1000+ at the big ones in Boerne. Usually 250-300 more horses come to run at more money and you will see NFR horses and nice rodeo horses. And yes the good horses have to start from somewhere, good grief some people take everything so personal. Sure there are nice horses in all areas of the country, I lived in Colorado for awhile and a 50 horse race was surely tough. I drove up and thought it was going to be easy and barely got out with a check. The OP was asking how to find a True 1D horse and I just think you have to take into consideration who, when and where that horse obtained that 1D status that it is being marketed for. Done.
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| Question on this topic..The folks out there that can and will spend 60K on a horse...do they expect to win that money back? Do they do it because they can? Is it for the fun of competition? Just curious. When you sit down and add up the expenses of owning and running a barrel horse, even a winner, you arent usually in the green lol. Thats with all equine sports I suppose lol. I guess if you teach your kids to love a horse they will be too broke to buy drugs.
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      Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | In my opinion there are two classes of horses. 1D horses and pro rodeo horses. The 1D horses aren't neccessarily going to win squat on the rodeo trail. The ones that can win in both places are worth a lot. Like 6 figures because there just isn't many of those out there. Now the 1D barrel race horse, there are many of them out there and I think if you look hard enough they can be found worth the money. I also think all the big figure talk is many times just that, talk. People have figured out if they say they paid a butt load for one then when they have to get rid of it because it didn't work out they can say they are offering a discounted horse when in all actuality they are just getting their money back. It is all smoke and mirrors. It happens in a lot of industries. | |
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The next horse you go to purchase jump up and down in front of it FOUR TIMES. Spin in one circle, bark like a dog, and throw a cup of sugar over your left shoulder.
VOILA!

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   Location: western Nebraska | astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!! | |
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
1 tenth off in the midwest?
If my exchange rates are correct that would be squeaking into the 2d in texas...
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
1 tenth off in the midwest?
If my exchange rates are correct that would be squeaking into the 2d in texas...
Sorry, had to say it.
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      Location: NE Texas | doglady - 2015-06-25 12:07 AM astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!! I love this! Good for you for enjoying them! I am somewhat in this boat myself....well maybe not the same boat. I have a 5 YO that has less than 20 competitive runs under his belt and through March had run in the bottom of the 1D or top of the 2D at every show he's been to out of as many as 500 head. He outran Kellies Chick and Marthas Six Shooter at Denton in December and then turned around and ran a 14.1 on the NFR pattern there are a different barrel race. He ran 3 tenths off of Jackie and Prince at Lance's as well. Now i'm not saying this colt is a TRUE 1D horse, as he's not finished, and he's drug alot of barrels down leaving them to win alot of money, plus he developed a respiratory infection resulting in getting about 60 days off starting the end of March, so he hasn't been run since then.
Here's my predicament......he handily tried to buck me off last year at home when I made a practice run on him, and I am admittely cautious about really making a run on him now. I ride him every day and I will cruise him through, but I am cautious to run him home from the third barrel, as he did it when I was pulling up, after where the timer would be. Secondly, I have two step daughters who are my #1 priority and I spend alot of weekends at softball games and don't get to haul as much as I used to. I too thought it might be in my (his) best interest to sell so someone would be able to haul him and continue seasoning him, as I have no doubt that with the right jockey he's the kind of horse that deserves a shot to qualify for the American at some point. I had made up my mind I was going to sell him and priced him to a very few people who I knew had the clientele to ride a horse of this caliber, who is also pretty quirky, and then I decided nah....i'll just keep him when I didn't immediately get any bites. Last week I received a text that someone is interested in trying him and my stomach sank. I'm not one to back out on my word, and I will probably let them try him should they ask to, but if it's not a perfect fit and I don't feel good about it, he'll just have to hang out with me and we can figure it out a little at a time as I get my confidence in myself back! Like you, it would break my heart to see this colt a year from now blown up and hating his life. He's too talented and special to just sell for the sake of selling and risk a bad fit or someone not understanding all the "personality" that goes with him. Who knows....maybe one of these days i'll be the one to try to qualify him for the American.....
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
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doglady - 2015-06-25 12:07 AM
astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
1 tenth off in the midwest?
If my exchange rates are correct that would be squeaking into the 2d in texas...
Sorry, had to say it.
I don't know if there were any tx horses there but there were some Oklahoma ones. Also at least four former nfr qualifiers so I am thinking it was a pretty tough barrel race!!!'m | |
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
1 tenth off in the midwest?
If my exchange rates are correct that would be squeaking into the 2d in texas...
Sorry, had to say it.
What about a true 1D horse in California?
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
1 tenth off in the midwest?
If my exchange rates are correct that would be squeaking into the 2d in texas...
Sorry, had to say it.
I don't know if there were any tx horses there but there were some Oklahoma ones. Also at least four former nfr qualifiers so I am thinking it was a pretty tough barrel race!!!'m
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       Location: Kansas | Itsme - 2015-06-25 7:42 PM doglady - 2015-06-25 6:42 PM Itsme - 2015-06-25 9:06 AM doglady - 2015-06-25 12:07 AM astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again.
I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now.
I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels.
Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
1 tenth off in the midwest? If my exchange rates are correct that would be squeaking into the 2d in texas... Sorry, had to say it. I don't know if there were any tx horses there but there were some Oklahoma ones. Also at least four former nfr qualifiers so I am thinking it was a pretty tough barrel race!!!'m Very tough! 
Itsme, doglady had been there, done that and is still currently active. I would not be surprised to see her at the NFR again. She knows what and where tough competition is.
If you pay attention to what she posts you might learn something
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      Location: Arkansas | Herbie - 2015-06-25 9:28 AM
doglady - 2015-06-25 12:07 AM astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!! I love this! Good for you for enjoying them! I am somewhat in this boat myself....well maybe not the same boat. I have a 5 YO that has less than 20 competitive runs under his belt and through March had run in the bottom of the 1D or top of the 2D at every show he's been to out of as many as 500 head. He outran Kellies Chick and Marthas Six Shooter at Denton in December and then turned around and ran a 14.1 on the NFR pattern there are a different barrel race. He ran 3 tenths off of Jackie and Prince at Lance's as well. Now i'm not saying this colt is a TRUE 1D horse, as he's not finished, and he's drug alot of barrels down leaving them to win alot of money, plus he developed a respiratory infection resulting in getting about 60 days off starting the end of March, so he hasn't been run since then.
Here's my predicament......he handily tried to buck me off last year at home when I made a practice run on him, and I am admittely cautious about really making a run on him now. I ride him every day and I will cruise him through, but I am cautious to run him home from the third barrel, as he did it when I was pulling up, after where the timer would be. Secondly, I have two step daughters who are my #1 priority and I spend alot of weekends at softball games and don't get to haul as much as I used to. I too thought it might be in my (his) best interest to sell so someone would be able to haul him and continue seasoning him, as I have no doubt that with the right jockey he's the kind of horse that deserves a shot to qualify for the American at some point. I had made up my mind I was going to sell him and priced him to a very few people who I knew had the clientele to ride a horse of this caliber, who is also pretty quirky, and then I decided nah....i'll just keep him when I didn't immediately get any bites. Last week I received a text that someone is interested in trying him and my stomach sank. I'm not one to back out on my word, and I will probably let them try him should they ask to, but if it's not a perfect fit and I don't feel good about it, he'll just have to hang out with me and we can figure it out a little at a time as I get my confidence in myself back! Like you, it would break my heart to see this colt a year from now blown up and hating his life. He's too talented and special to just sell for the sake of selling and risk a bad fit or someone not understanding all the "personality" that goes with him. Who knows....maybe one of these days i'll be the one to try to qualify him for the American.....
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astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL
This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again. I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now. I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels. Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
Well ya kno you wanna follow that old lady that wins out to the truck once she jus made a horrible run and is doubting herself....remember everyone ask when they are mad or feeling that they can't stay with them! Because once they realize they can stay with them they don't wanna sale! Go kick booty on em Martee! | |
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      Location: NE Texas | Chandler's Mom - 2015-06-26 12:20 AM Herbie - 2015-06-25 9:28 AM doglady - 2015-06-25 12:07 AM astreakinchic - 2015-06-23 10:45 AM You can find one for that but you need to know what your looking for and what you can fix and turn into one. Go to a large super show or big 4D. Watch the older ladies and pick you out some older lady holding back for her life with a hard running horse that wants to work and is about a second to a half second off. Buy him, send him to a trainer to be tuned up.....you'll be surprised what you have. Oh and don't expect to get a bargain this way...most of these ladies know their lil precious could be a bad motor scooter so you will stay be paying a hefty price tag but not as expensive as one thats winning the world at the moment. Another one is to be able to pick out one that is hurting which is the biggest gamble because you may not be able to fix the physical aliment, running in pain might have really blown their mind mentally and it'll take a year or more to fix them, and you may only get one or two runs a month once they are fixed. So you might pay money in and have a hard time getting it back out. Last is the horse that gets bought right after the futurity year by well meaning parents for lil susie. Lil susie is all excited with her new hyped up mount and she just runs the fire outta it. Pretty soon its railing, its blowing out, its not clocking and lil susie hates it. Most of those colts right out of the derby or futurity year are not ready to be hammered on and you can get some decent buys off of their first "open owners" who drop the hammer hard on them and don't know how to put them back together. Its best to walk up at the show and ask them how much while they are still mad at the horse LOL This cracks me up-I am the old lady. Two weeks ago at the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln my fat little horse Mojo won 3rd by less than a tenth. I had people follow me back to my stall and have had several calls since then wanting me to price him. I sold him once and he was gone for three years. I had a chance to get him back and he isn't going anywhere again.
I also bought a really cool horse last August and I have been working on getting him sound. It has taken 9 months to get him physically sound and I have made 9 easy runs on him and he is just about there. I have spent as much at the vet as he cost now.
I also have a couple of horses that got fried at the futurities and I have spent two years on them getting their minds back and having them love running barrels.
Now I think I should sell a few of them. So I have had a lot of calls and decided I have to keep them all-I have spent so much time on them-I just can't take a chance on someone else messing them back up!!!
I love this! Good for you for enjoying them! I am somewhat in this boat myself....well maybe not the same boat. I have a 5 YO that has less than 20 competitive runs under his belt and through March had run in the bottom of the 1D or top of the 2D at every show he's been to out of as many as 500 head. He outran Kellies Chick and Marthas Six Shooter at Denton in December and then turned around and ran a 14.1 on the NFR pattern there are a different barrel race. He ran 3 tenths off of Jackie and Prince at Lance's as well. Now i'm not saying this colt is a TRUE 1D horse, as he's not finished, and he's drug alot of barrels down leaving them to win alot of money, plus he developed a respiratory infection resulting in getting about 60 days off starting the end of March, so he hasn't been run since then.
Here's my predicament......he handily tried to buck me off last year at home when I made a practice run on him, and I am admittely cautious about really making a run on him now. I ride him every day and I will cruise him through, but I am cautious to run him home from the third barrel, as he did it when I was pulling up, after where the timer would be. Secondly, I have two step daughters who are my #1 priority and I spend alot of weekends at softball games and don't get to haul as much as I used to. I too thought it might be in my (his) best interest to sell so someone would be able to haul him and continue seasoning him, as I have no doubt that with the right jockey he's the kind of horse that deserves a shot to qualify for the American at some point. I had made up my mind I was going to sell him and priced him to a very few people who I knew had the clientele to ride a horse of this caliber, who is also pretty quirky, and then I decided nah....i'll just keep him when I didn't immediately get any bites. Last week I received a text that someone is interested in trying him and my stomach sank. I'm not one to back out on my word, and I will probably let them try him should they ask to, but if it's not a perfect fit and I don't feel good about it, he'll just have to hang out with me and we can figure it out a little at a time as I get my confidence in myself back! Like you, it would break my heart to see this colt a year from now blown up and hating his life. He's too talented and special to just sell for the sake of selling and risk a bad fit or someone not understanding all the "personality" that goes with him. Who knows....maybe one of these days i'll be the one to try to qualify him for the American..... I think you got the answer---he deserves YOU to take him where he's headed!! Pay window and The American here y'all come!!
Thank you Chandler's Mom and Itsme.....i'm gonna try. Will be a betty barrel racer/play day patty for a while, but we'll get there hopefully. I appreciate ya'lls kind words. | |
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