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| Itsme - 2015-08-07 2:26 PM all i got from this is "elect the same career politicians we have for decades" BRILLIANT!
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| WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it?
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| oija - 2015-08-07 3:08 PM Carson is not a career politician. Trump has had his current opinions for exactly fifteen minutes. He swaps ends more than a reining horse at the world show. Anyone who can google information older than 2015 will quickly see he had said just the opposite on a number of occasions. A good number of the candidates truly love America. Trump loves his pocketbook. As for his philanthropy. http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/celebrity/trump-least-charit...
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| Itsme - 2015-08-07 7:25 PM WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it? We really need a savior now...
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WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it?
We really need a savior now...
I'm just curious, since I don't come on here as much as I used to, but why is it that I've never seen you make a meaningful contribution or comment on any thread on this forum? Heck, you aren't even provocative. You're more like a tender hemorrhoid or bad case of jock itch. At least try to come up with something meaningful once in a while for heaven's sake. Good Lord! | |
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Frankly I think he is nothing but a empty suit and a whinny cry baby.
Yeah? Let just 50 people here start to whine and snivel about everything you have to say.... See how you react?
Komet my reaction certainly would not be to act like a third grader and whine and cry and throw my sucker in the dirt like Trump does. You can believe Mr. Trumps B***S*** it is a free country. You can praise him all you want. You can donate to him. You can vote for him I DO NOT CARE. I think he is a jackass, blowhard and nothing more than a circus barker trying to get you to look the tattooed lady at the county fair. needles to say I will not be voting for him. But carry on Komet with your love feast of Mr. Trump just don't think I am going to follow you down that road. It will never happen.
Do you want to know what finally sold me on the man? In the debate, when the Mod asked the first question, Trump did not hesitate to raise his hand... When he knew he would be the only one doing so.... We need a BIG set of balls in the White House... He's the only one running that has them.
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Frankly I think he is nothing but a empty suit and a whinny cry baby.
Yeah? Let just 50 people here start to whine and snivel about everything you have to say.... See how you react?
Komet my reaction certainly would not be to act like a third grader and whine and cry and throw my sucker in the dirt like Trump does. You can believe Mr. Trumps B***S*** it is a free country. You can praise him all you want. You can donate to him. You can vote for him I DO NOT CARE. I think he is a jackass, blowhard and nothing more than a circus barker trying to get you to look the tattooed lady at the county fair. needles to say I will not be voting for him. But carry on Komet with your love feast of Mr. Trump just don't think I am going to follow you down that road. It will never happen.
Do you want to know what finally sold me on the man? In the debate, when the Mod asked the first question, Trump did not hesitate to raise his hand... When he knew he would be the only one doing so.... We need a BIG set of balls in the White House... He's the only one running that has them.
Clearly you missed the part where I said I DO NOT CARE.
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Itsme - 2015-08-07 7:25 PM WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it? We really need a savior now...
Nah. Politics aren't my thing. Â And we have a Saviour. His name is Jesus. Â
Ah I love people who don't have time to read copy/paste crap and then refuse to read a very thoughtful and engaged response believing the amount of crap will prevent someone from buying enough toilet paper to wipe it away. HWO I read your entire response and it is awesome!! Thank you for being someone who is unafraid to think and do your homework.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | oija - 2015-08-07 8:48 PM heartswideopen - 2015-08-07 8:32 PM Itsme - 2015-08-07 7:25 PM WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it? We really need a savior now... Nah. Politics aren't my thing. And we have a Saviour. His name is Jesus. Ah I love people who don't have time to read copy/paste crap and then refuse to read a very thoughtful and engaged response believing the amount of crap will prevent someone from buying enough toilet paper to wipe it away. HWO I read your entire response and it is awesome!! Thank you for being someone who is u afraid to think and do your homework.
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Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:25 PM
WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it?
We really need a savior now...
I'm just curious, since I don't come on here as much as I used to, but why is it that I've never seen you make a meaningful contribution or comment on any thread on this forum? Heck, you aren't even provocative. You're more like a tender hemorrhoid or bad case of jock itch. At least try to come up with something meaningful once in a while for heaven's sake. Good Lord!
You dont like anyone with a free thinking open mind, you just want everyone to be mindless conservatard.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-08-07 8:46 PM jbhoot - 2015-08-07 8:45 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 8:19 PM jbhoot - 2015-08-07 7:19 PM komet. - 2015-08-07 4:11 PM jbhoot - 2015-08-07 4:03 PM Frankly I think he is nothing but a empty suit and a whinny cry baby. Yeah? Let just 50 people here start to whine and snivel about everything you have to say.... See how you react? Komet my reaction certainly would not be to act like a third grader and whine and cry and throw my sucker in the dirt like Trump does. You can believe Mr. Trumps B***S*** it is a free country. You can praise him all you want. You can donate to him. You can vote for him I DO NOT CARE. I think he is a jackass, blowhard and nothing more than a circus barker trying to get you to look the tattooed lady at the county fair. needles to say I will not be voting for him. But carry on Komet with your love feast of Mr. Trump just don't think I am going to follow you down that road. It will never happen. Do you want to know what finally sold me on the man? In the debate, when the Mod asked the first question, Trump did not hesitate to raise his hand... When he knew he would be the only one doing so.... We need a BIG set of balls in the White House... He's the only one running that has them. Clearly you missed the part where I said I DO NOT CARE. Then... Please explain why you bother to post on this thread??? If you don't care... Go somewhere else!!!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | heartswideopen - 2015-08-07 8:16 PM
 As candidates for president emerge it is important to know where each stands on issues that are important to AMERICA. The USA cannot afford to make another mistake in electing an anti-American Socialist, someone with a poor track record of public service, or someone who values illegal invaders more than hard-working, loyal Americans and her military.Trump, hopefully, is waking some of the RINOs up. The criticisms of Trump are amazingly missing something. They are lacking in negative stories from those who work for him or have had business dealings with him. After all the employees he’s had and all the business deals he’s made there is a void of criticism. In fact, long term employees call him a strong and merciful leader and say he is far more righteous and of high integrity than people may think. And while it may surprise many, he’s actually humble when it comes to his generosity and kindness. A good example is a story that tells of his limo breaking down on a deserted highway outside of New York City. A middle-aged couple stopped to helphim and as a thank you he paid off their mortgage, but he didn’t brag about that. Generous and good people rarely talk of charity they bestow on others.But as much as all this is interesting, the real thing that people want to know is what Donald Trump’s plan is for America. It’s funny how so many people say they don’t know what it is, or they act like Trump is hiding it. The information is readily available if people would just do a little homework. But, since most Americans won't do their own research, here, in no particular order, is an overview of many of Trump's positions and plans:Aside from his philanthropic/tax break work, which he “doesn’t brag about,” lets look to him as a candidate… 1.) Trump believes that America should not intervene militarily in other country’s problems without being compensated for doing so. If America is going to risk the lives of our soldiers and incur the expense of going to war, then the nations we help must be willing to pay for our help. Using the Iraq War as an example, he cites the huge monetary expense to American taxpayers (over $1.5 trillion, and possibly much more depending on what sources are used to determine the cost) inaddition to the cost in human life. He suggests that Iraq should have been required to give us enough of their oil to pay for the expenses we incurred. He includes in those expenses the medical costs for our military and $5 million for each family that lost a loved one in the war and $2 million for each family of soldiers who received severe injuries.Though I agree with Trump’s eutopic sentiment,  HOW will he implement his plan? HOW would he convince Iran to pay reparation for military assistance? Wouldn’t he have to resort to military force?  Further still,  would he sit “duck on the water” style much like Obama did if Iraq chose NOT to pay so as to allow for more terrorist regimes to uprise? Case in point, ISIS. Â
First argument, out the window!2.) Speaking of the military, Trump wants America to have a strong military again. He believes the single most important function of the federal government is national defense. He has said he wants to find the General Patton or General MacArthur that could lead our military buildup back to the strength it needs to be. While he hasn’t said it directly that I know of, Trump’s attitude about America and about winning tells me he’d most likely be quick to eliminate rules of engagement that handicap our military in battle. Clearly Trump is a “win at all costs” kind of guy, and I’m sure that would apply to our national defense and security, too.This is an idea. It does NOT demonstrate an action plan.  HOW is Trump going to ensure that the American public is going to uphold (with taxes) his notion of national defense and security when liberals already complain about the amount of money spent on national security?  Case in point, H.W’s Homeland Security.   The win-at-all costs is worrisome. How does this not lead us back into a WWII type of situation?  The all-costs aspect is especially disconcerting as all-costs infers American taxpayers. Though he has a degree from U Penn, his economics are outdated and completely non-feasable. He’s another Obama: gun’s blazing, big mouth, no plan.  3.) Trump wants a strong foreign policy and believes that it must include 7 core principles (which seem to support my comment in the last point):·4 American interests come first. Always. No apologies.Totally AGREE. Great sentiment, but again, HOW?  Will Trump default the national debt and break trade agreements?  Should he do so,  HOW will the United States purchase the required technologies to act as a sovereign , closed economy? Further, if the prices of goods are more expensive, without trade, and America utilizes outdated technological factors of production, HOW will we be able to afford American interests in a post-globalized, non-manufacturing adept economy?  Last I checked, autarky (especially in a service-based economy) means joblessness and essentially North Korea and Cuba.  5 Maximum firepower and military preparedness.Here we go again… All military-industrial nations have the capacity to manufacture and acquire assault rifles. However, the United States imports the majority of its steel AND assualt weapons. How will Trump acquire ground, air, and naval force assault equipment without the capacity to manufacture massive quantities of steel.  If you look to nations such as China, Russia, and Iran,  those nations have STOCKPILED assault equipment AND they have the MODERN capacity in terms of labor inputs AND technology to produce it. The U.S. does not.  Should we default on trade agreements per Trump’s #1,  how do we prevent retaliation and then acquire or manufacture firepower in order to have absolute military preparedness?  Further still, our nation’s military branches already complain about the necessity for additional funding. How, without trade,  technology and manufacturing capacity does Trump plan for adequate military provision?  Will our allies stand with us as we break NAFTA? In doing so, where do we acquire lumber (as we currently do under NAFTA with Canada) and what happens to the cost of oil in the short-run (per Mexican imports)? Where will we obtain cheap oil given limited sources of steel?  Even if we should push Trans-Alaska to maximum output, where do we acquire the steel and gas required to move, process, refine,  and store the oil. With only limited steel, how will we develop additional refineries? Unfortunately the measly 140-150 operable facilities just wouldn’t cut it. 6 Only go to war to win.Another fallacy.  An idea, not a plan.   #3 is American interests only. This sharply contradicts loyalty to your friends.  Is Trump suggesting we remove all allies? We receive little from our current friends which upholds the American interests only ideology, so what does Mr. Trump feel Americans should do? Are we again looking at autarky?  If we are attacked, and we do not manufacture steel or have assault rifles, or even communications technology which works outsie of a global GSM network, what do we have? Do revert back to the Bell transmitter, telegraphs, transistor radios,  and Quindar? Again. Cuba, North Korea. Stay loyal to your friends and suspicious of your enemies.Mentioned above. Keep the technological sword razor sharp.I assuming that both yourself and Mr. Trump are not aware of what technology is. Without trade, how will we incentivize R&D?  Will investors simply decide they have the utmost loyalty to the United States? Will they elect not to patent their technology? Further still, in terms of pharmaceutical development, will big pharma choose US loyalty over R&D and willingly decrease their profit margins? NO. Without the patent, what will stop other firms from making the same product?  Further still, with a patent, what will keep the sword sharp if patents are published, duplicated, and utilized by international markets which are closed to the United States per trade restrictions?  Again, just an idea, NOT a feasible solution. See the unseen. Prepare for threats before they materialize.I imagine we would do with this with cheap intelligence, or unit intelligence which has been alienated from foreign intel?  Not going to happen. Intelligence agencies cross-communicate intelligence in order to maintain domestic intelligence.  With a poorly sharpened technological sword and a  poorly outfitted intelligence community in terms of  ground power and assualt weapons I can only imagine what reconnaissance would look like. Respect and support our present and past warriors.COMPLETELY AGREE. But, wait didn’t Trump just violate his own premise after his classless attack on the military capture of veteran and prisoner of war, Senator John McCain? Didn't he just call him a loser? Shame, shame, Mr. Trump.  Liar, liar. 4.) Trump believes that terrorists who are captured should be treated as military combatants, not as criminals like the Obama administration treats them.I agree with this. I’m not a fan of the treatment prisoner’s receive at Guantanamo, but again, if we are engaged trading agreements, how will we capture, hold, and retain military combatants?  5.) Trump makes the point that China’s manipulation of their currency has given them unfair advantage in our trade dealings with them. He says we must tax their imports to offset their currency manipulation, which will cause American companies to be competitive again and drive manufacturing back to America and create jobs here.Although he sees China as the biggest offender, he believes that America should protect itself from all foreign efforts to take our jobs and manufacturing. For example, Ford is building a plant in Mexico and Trump suggests that every part or vehicle Ford makes in Mexico be taxed 35% if they want to bring it into the U. S., which would cause companies like Ford to no longer be competitive using their Mexicanoperations and move manufacturing back to the U. S., once again creating jobs here.It’s true China appreciates their currency, however, since China utilizes a peg, how does Donald intend to prevent China from continued devaluation when the demand for Chinese manufactured resources is increasing? Trump believes we should remove ourselves from the globalized market by increasing manufacturing and purchasing of U.S. made products, however, what Trump is failing to realize is that a trade war would ensue which would violate the entire premise of the Smoot-Hawley.   Assuming the U.S. moves into decreased trade, this would allow for a small, domestic steel manufacturing sector which would be perfectly competitive in the long run, thus, the prices on steel would be expected to fall, but not by enough given its small market share.  China can afford to drive down prices. If Donald is choosing to slow trade with China, but place tariffs on the steel imports, he would essentially continue to depreciate the dollar and though more costly for Chinese steel exporters, the price of domestic steel in the United States would STILL cost more especially in the short run given the global current market share of steel in China. Just because the U.S. decides to slow its imports, does not mean that China will need to slow its production of steel as long as there is sufficient demand from other nations and as long as China can continue to produce steel at a cheaper cost than the United States. There will still be a U.S. demand for Chinese steel given the inelastic, and competitive prices of steel within the United States. China can continue to devalue their renminbi as long as their peg holds and they maintain a market share with adequate demand.   You can look to the 2000’s energy crisis for examples.  Since the United is dependent upon foreign fuels,  regardless of increasing cost, the change in demand fell little.  This was especially true of oil.   It is very hard to force a nation as powerful as China (and even Japan) to stop currency devaluation.   China is well aware of the value of resource and extractive markets and knows that expenditure switching is less likely within such markets given global dependence.
Further, if we impose trade restrictions on China, how will Donald Trump ensure that a trade war does not ensue and that export subsidies will hold given retaliation AND also the decreased demand for domestic produced goods. Should a trade war ensue, you can very well expect that the United States agriculture industry will suffer. If this is this is the case, how will the United States compensate its farmers and continue to incentivize the production of surplus? Â Without surplus, the consumer loses as prices rise. Â Food and clothing become exorbitantly expensive.
Further still, if we fail to produce enough to pay our debt to China, we risk a less than the current AA Moody’s and isolation from credit markets in the future.  We also risk our position of exhorbitant priveledge, not a good thing unless you'd like the dollar to collapse given the current deficit. The sudden onset of the Chinese Investment Infrastructure Bank should be of paramount interest to Trump, but he's given us nothing but generic, and very poor positions for his economic policy.Â
I could go on about the hypocrisy of Trump given his $4.1 Billion  real estate valuations, but I digress. 6.) Trump wants passage of NOPEC legislation (No Oil Producing and Exporting Cartels Act – NOPEC – S.394), which would allow the government to sue OPEC for violating antitrust laws. According to Trump, that would break up the cartel. He also wants to unleash our energy companies to drill domestically(sound like Sarah Palin’s drill baby, drill?) thereby increasing domestic production creating jobs and driving domestic costs of oil and gas down while reducing dependence onforeign oil.Wrong again. Also where’s the HOW? This NOPEC requires the approval of the EPA along with other governing bodies in the United States. Trump is again going in guns blazing just as Obama did. (We have a balance of power system for fools like these two.)  Not only will TRUMP face domestic restrictions among governing bodies and also constituents, but he will also face retaliation from OPEC.  If Trump has not noticed, this  nation is reliant and VERY dependent upon oil. We cannot simply break that dependence overnight, nor can we break it over the short or long-term. This is a relegated to the VERY long term and is again dependent upon the limited abilities of U.S.  steel markets. Trump is of the belief that oil is an elastic good. Back to Principles Econ. for both yourself and Trump!
Further still, if you have not noticed, Iran currently operates and maintains one of the world’s largest centrifugal nuclear power sources, and guess what they're not spinning blood plasma!  If you are of the belief that there would be a peaceful slow down on OPEC oil consumption leading to decreased production, you are as foolish and deluded  as Trump.  I’ve heard Trump talk about suing OPEC nations as well,  but where he would get the military might as well as the financial capacity to back any judicial enforcement? Also, what governing body would he use? The world does not have a court for the enforcement and adjudication. 7.) Trump believes a secure border is critical for both security and prosperity in America. He wants to build a wall to stop illegals from entering and put controls on immigration. (And he says he’ll get Mexico to pay for the wall, which many have scoffed at, but given his business successes I wouldn’t put it past him.) He also wants to enforce our immigration laws and provide no path to citizenship for illegals.Again, I agree, but HOW.   HOW will Trump sway the Washington and American voters to go along with his claptrap?  He’s not Jesus; he’s a business savvy individual with a bad haircut, and a poor grasp on Foreign Relations policy.  If Trump has not noticed we are also highly dependent upon Mexican oil.  Further, if we close ourselves off completely from Mexico (which seems to me Trump is in favor of), what country does he feel we would export to?  Since Mexico buys more products from the United States than any other nation, what happens to the jobs in the United States when the export market to Mexico collapses?8.) Trump wants a radical change to the tax system to not only make it better for average Americans, but also to encourage businesses to stay here and foreign businesses to move here. The resulting influx of money to our nation would do wonders for our economy. He wants to make America the place to do business. He also wants to lower the death tax and the taxes on capital gains and dividends. This would put more than $1.6 trillion back into the economy and help rebuild the 1.5 million jobs we’ve lost to the current tax system. He also wants to charge companies who outsource jobs overseas a 20% tax, but for those willing to move jobs back to America they would not be taxed. And for citizens he has a tax plan that would allow Americans to keep more of what they earn and spark economic growth. He wants to change the personal income tax to:·Up to $30,000 taxed at 1%·From $30,000 to $100,000 taxed at 5%·From $100,000 to $1,000,000 taxed at 10%·$1,000,000 and above taxed at 15%I agree with this and fully believe he could reduce the capital gains, inheritance, and death tax with ease, but again, how will he create a manufacturing and low-skilled market sufficient enough ensure that Americans have a job?  People without a job are not likely to give up their nasty entitlement checks. Â
Further, Trump wants to decrease trade with other nations, specifically, China, the world’s premier net lender, BUT he wants to bring foreign owned firms into the United States, the world’s premier net debtor? HOW will he do it???   How would we pay our debts, when China and other nations via Trump’s implementation of tariffs, would engage the U.S. in a tariff war, where China would continue to devalue in the hopes of driving up the costs of U.S. manufactured goods. Â
I REALLY like the idea of charging firms who are engaging in production in Chinese markets, but I see another fallacy. How will Trump make goods such as steel and plastic cheap enough within the United States in order to maintain and retain domestic firms?   A 20% tax may very well drive many firms to close  their doors since production and emissions costs in this country along with rising labor demand and wages would cost firms more money than they would be willing to pay.  It comes down to a Cobb Douglas production function indicating poor profit margins, if any at all. 9.) Trump wants Obamacare repealed. He says it’s a “job-killing, healthcare-destroying monstrosity” that “can’t be reformed, salvaged, or fixed.” He believes in allowing real competition in the health insurance marketplace to allow competition to drive prices down. He also believes in tort reform to get rid of defensive medicine and lower costs.Totally agree, but last I checked, Trump said the Canadian and EU healthcare systems are brilliantly run and he backs single-payer, government sponsored healthcare… Hmm.  I agree that a market exchange system in healthcare would be excellent having done studies on the economic impact, but I don’t believe Trump is being truthful as he’s made statements to the contrary. 10.) Trump wants spending reforms in Washington, acknowledging that America spends far more than it receives in revenue. He has said he believes that if we don’t stop increasing the national debt once it hits $24 trillion it will be impossible to save this country.Agree.  Just an idea, however. What’s the solution? 11.) Even though he says we need to cut spending, he does not want to harm those on Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. He believes that the citizens have faithfully paid in to the system to have these services available and that the American government has an obligation to fulfill its end of the bargain and provide those benefits. Therefore, he wants to build the economy up so that we have the revenue to pay those costs without cutting the benefits to the recipients. He disagrees with Democrats who think raising taxes is the answer and says that when you do that you stifle the economy. On the other hand, when you lower taxes and create an environment to help businesses they will grow, hire more workers, and those new workers will be paying taxes that become moretax revenue for the government.This provides a solution.  Good.  However, this is vote fishing.  Has Trump failed to recognize the masses who are here illegally and who utilize Medicaid and Medicare? Has he never been within an emergency room?   He is however, very correct in his ideas about lowering taxes.  Good solution and I suppose it partially answers the problem of the national debt. 12.) Trump also wants reform of the welfare state saying that America needs “a safety net, not a hammock.” He believes in a welfare to work program that would help reduce the welfare roles and encourage people to get back to work. And he wants a crackdown on entitlement fraud.Great idea.  Solution as well. 13.) Trump believes climate change is a hoax.14.) Trump opposes Common Core.People blame common core for everything, but I think we also need to stop catering to parents who have children who cannot afford them.  We also continually increase teacher salaries, but we watch as America slips further in the maths and sciences.   Common core is not the only problem, it’s also poor teaching and bad/careless parenting. 15.) Trump is pro-life, although he allows for an exception due to rape, incest, or the life of the mother.Agree. 16.) Trump is pro 2nd Amendment rights.Agree.17.) Trump’s view on same-sex marriage is that marriage is between a man and a woman, but he also believes that this is a states rights issue, not a federal issue.Agree.18.) Trump supports the death penalty. Trump believes that there is a lack of common sense, innovative thinking in Washington (Hmmm… looks like he sense!). He says it’s about seeing the unseen and that’s the kind of thinking we need to turn this country around. He tells a personal story to illustrate the point: “When I opened Trump National Golf Club at Rancho Palos Verdes in Los Angeles, I was immediately told that I would need to build a new and costly ballroom. The current ballroom was gorgeous, but it only sat 200 people and we were losing business because people needed a larger space for their events.Building a new ballroom would take years to get approval and permits (since it’s on the Pacific Ocean), and cost about $5 million. I took one look at the ballroom and saw immediately what needed to be done. The problem wasn’t the size of the room, it was the size of the chairs. They were huge, heavy, and unwieldy.We didn’t need a bigger ballroom, we needed smaller chairs! So I had them replaced with high-end, smaller chairs. I then had our people sell the old chairs and got more money for them than the cost of the new chairs. In the end, the ballroom went from seating 200 people to seating 320 people. Our visitors got the space they desired, and I spared everyone the hassle of years of construction and $5 million of expense. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with a little common sense. On top of his saving years of construction and $5 million in expenses, he also was able to keep the ballroom open for business during the time it would have been under remodeling, which allowed him to continue to make money on the space instead of losing that revenue during construction time.Donald Trump’s entire life has been made up of success and winning. He’s been accused of bankruptcies, but that’s not true. He’s never filed personal bankruptcy. He’s bought companies and legally used bankruptcy laws to restructure their debt, just as businesses do all the time. But he’s never been bankrupt personally. He’s a fighter that clearly loves America and would fight for our nation. Earlier I quoted Trump saying, “I love America. And when you love something, you protect it passionately – fiercely, even.”We never hear that from Democrats or even from most Republicans. Donald Trump is saying things that desperately need to be said but no other candidate has shown the fortitude to stand up and say them. Looking over this list of what he wants for America I see a very necessary set of goals that are longpast due. Before we criticize someone because the media does, maybe we should seriously consider what he has to offer.Trump may not have personal bankruptcy, but he has had  several corporate bankruptcies. It’s interesting that this man is so against any sort of loser, but 4 times the government has helped him with his debts.  I’m not saying this is wrong as he has worked for what he has, but he should stop calling the kettle black and pretending his whole life has been a win.  Trump might be your favorite candidate, but he can’t argue anything other than his personal opinion and Rosie O’Donell as was evidenced by last night's debate. He loves filing lawsuits and he has no business running for president given 0 electability.  I WAS interested in knowing why people think he's electable outside of the far right wing affiliation, but no one can answer that.  I'm still unconvinced and still 100% sure he can't hold a candle in the wind against Hilary or Bernie unless he's part of their plans, which with regard to the former, I'm sure he is.
 I wouldn’t exactly call what you referenced a plan given its many faults. As a businessman "who never loses," you’d think Trump would have more substantial. Â
I sure hope people take a few minutes to read this, because it's very well stated. I know I learned a lot. Well done, Cee! | |
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Proud to be Deplorable
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| komet. - 2015-08-07 8:46 PM
jbhoot - 2015-08-07 8:45 PM
komet. - 2015-08-07 8:19 PM
jbhoot - 2015-08-07 7:19 PM
komet. - 2015-08-07 4:11 PM
jbhoot - 2015-08-07 4:03 PM
Frankly I think he is nothing but a empty suit and a whinny cry baby.
Yeah? Let just 50 people here start to whine and snivel about everything you have to say.... See how you react?
Komet my reaction certainly would not be to act like a third grader and whine and cry and throw my sucker in the dirt like Trump does. You can believe Mr. Trumps B***S*** it is a free country. You can praise him all you want. You can donate to him. You can vote for him I DO NOT CARE. I think he is a jackass, blowhard and nothing more than a circus barker trying to get you to look the tattooed lady at the county fair. needles to say I will not be voting for him. But carry on Komet with your love feast of Mr. Trump just don't think I am going to follow you down that road. It will never happen.
Do you want to know what finally sold me on the man? In the debate, when the Mod asked the first question, Trump did not hesitate to raise his hand... When he knew he would be the only one doing so.... We need a BIG set of balls in the White House... He's the only one running that has them.
Clearly you missed the part where I said I DO NOT CARE.
Then... Please explain why you bother to post on this thread??? If you don't care... Go somewhere else!!!
Komet do you actually read the stuff you post? | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:54 PM
Bear - 2015-08-07 8:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:25 PM
WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it?
We really need a savior now...
I'm just curious, since I don't come on here as much as I used to, but why is it that I've never seen you make a meaningful contribution or comment on any thread on this forum? Heck, you aren't even provocative. You're more like a tender hemorrhoid or bad case of jock itch. At least try to come up with something meaningful once in a while for heaven's sake. Good Lord!
You dont like anyone with a free thinking open mind, you just want everyone to be mindless conservatard.
Have fun voting for Bush.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:54 PM
Bear - 2015-08-07 8:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:25 PM
WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it?
We really need a savior now...
I'm just curious, since I don't come on here as much as I used to, but why is it that I've never seen you make a meaningful contribution or comment on any thread on this forum? Heck, you aren't even provocative. You're more like a tender hemorrhoid or bad case of jock itch. At least try to come up with something meaningful once in a while for heaven's sake. Good Lord!
You dont like anyone with a free thinking open mind, you just want everyone to be mindless conservatard.
Have fun voting for Bush.
And what about doing copy/ paste and then refusing to read is not mindless????
America's refusal to read is why so many are bad candidates. They get away with all kinds of crap because people don't pay attention. | |
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Location: Florida.. | and let the politics begin......................mods get your stiff drinks and xanax ready.    | |
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Location: Gainesville, TX |
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 Famous for Not Complaining
Posts: 8848
Location: Broxton, Ga | Why is Trump leading in the polls why did Fox have the highest ratings ever. It was Trump.......cause he us saying what a lot of us are wanting soneone to say to the establishment we are sick and tired of the bs in Washington.
What has the establishment gave us the last 2 elections....gave us Obama. How's that crap worked out for us.....
What else has the GOP done.....NOTHING......but political posturing is about all I can come up with.
Bottom line GOP I'm fed up. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Bear - 2015-08-07 8:59 PM
Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:54 PM
Bear - 2015-08-07 8:41 PM
Itsme - 2015-08-07 8:25 PM
WAYYYYY to much reading for me right now, but if you know everything and have all the answers why dont you make a run for it?
We really need a savior now...
I'm just curious, since I don't come on here as much as I used to, but why is it that I've never seen you make a meaningful contribution or comment on any thread on this forum? Heck, you aren't even provocative. You're more like a tender hemorrhoid or bad case of jock itch. At least try to come up with something meaningful once in a while for heaven's sake. Good Lord!
You dont like anyone with a free thinking open mind, you just want everyone to be mindless conservatard.
Have fun voting for Bush.
Wrong, as usual.
Scott welcomes an open mind.... as long as he can't feel the breeze blowing through it like we can yours.... and mine...
Edited by komet. 2015-08-07 11:02 PM
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