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How do you prevent sabotage at a race?

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Dash4KJ
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-30 8:29 PM
Subject: RE: How do you prevent sabotage at a race?



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 Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...     Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. 
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sodapop
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2015-09-30 8:33 PM
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Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM  Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...     Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. 

Did they inject a drug or were they not able to get that done?  Scary! 
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-30 8:42 PM
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Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.
The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like)..... Again, 'no one' saw anything. Luckily, she's such a picky eater that she's never ingested anything that we know of that people have tried to give her.

I didn't realize 4-H was cut throat.  I thought you only got ribbons.  Who would terrorize a horse for some 4-H ribbons?  

That is a very good question. The person I suspected has always tried to do dirty things to my horses to try to beat me because I'm a better rider and trainer than them, and it made them made that they were always second place to me. Only thing I could think of.
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Dash4KJ
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-09-30 8:43 PM
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sodapop - 2015-09-30 7:33 PM
Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM  Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...     Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. 
Did they inject a drug or were they not able to get that done?  Scary! 

 The vet wouldn't come see my horse for almost half an hour and I was not allowed to call another vet to the grounds. She acted lethargic, didn't have depth perception it seemed.  The other barrel horse got the worst end of it, he lost his coat in most areas of his body and was very very sick for a long time. It makes my blood boil that people will win at any measure.. To walk into a horses stall with I'll intent such as that. You have a problem with me doing well then take it up with ME not my animal. 
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-09-30 9:02 PM
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Bear - 2015-09-30 11:52 AM

All that to prevent someone from winning a dam barrel race? That's really amazing.

The cocaine actually happened at a 4H event..... and I have my suspect of who did it, but couldn't prove it. My poor all around mare has had some real CRAP done to her by jealous people over the years. She's had people cut her, try to poison her, open her stall and try to let her loose.... One time I left her for 5 minutes at a 4H event to run to the bathroom (this was before the cocaine incident), I came back and her leg was swollen 4x the normal size with abrasions on it (like someone hit her with something metal is what it looked like)..... Again, 'no one' saw anything.


Luckily, she's such a picky eater that she's never ingested anything that we know of that people have tried to give her.

What could cause it to swell that fast?

Her legs were already sensitive, but it looked like blunt trauma of some sort because it continued to swell and stay swollen for days afterwards, and had a strange pattern to it. She was unridable and stall ridden for a week following it. No other horses were tied next to her so she didn't get kicked. No one came forward about it, so from then on out, there was someone watching her at all times, we were the first people in and last people out.
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hlynn
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2015-09-30 9:52 PM
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How to prevent sabotage?

Easy. Stay in the 3/4D. No one gives a snot about the not so fast weekend warriors. No need to camp out when no one even knows your name!!


Seriously though. People need to get the heck out of competition if cheating is their only way of winning.

And most arenas I've been to have a rule against padlocks on stalls with horses in them. You can lock your tack stall but no locks on horse stalls. At least that's what I've been told.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 7:53 AM
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sodapop - 2015-09-30 8:13 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-09-30 10:00 AM boobie traps. 
Like a big bra? LOL 

in my case.....a training bra LOL
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-10-01 8:00 AM
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If I had a $1.00 for everytime someone calls in to buy an item that was stolen at a horse show I'd finally have my indoor arena!  It just sickens me how people steal tack, take bits right off of the headstall, (bits are a HUGE Item stolen) and equipment damaged. 
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horsingaround
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2015-10-01 8:15 AM
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I always worried about some one stealing my sorrel mare when a way at big shows. Any one could enter the fair grounds with 2 or 3 sale barn horses and leave with some great horses cuz all they check is "a sorrel or bay horse" when you leave.
The only thing I know of happening was some one disconected my trailer from the electricity and hoped we over sleep? I am a natural early riser so no damage done.  
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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 8:44 AM
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purplemoon828 - 2015-09-30 3:52 PM

Wasn't Brittany Pozzi horse just recently taken out of it's stall by a bunch of teenagers and ridden around downtown or did I dream that up?

Ryan Pedonne's

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mlh0972
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2015-10-01 10:08 AM
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After reading all of these, it makes me not ever want to go to another over night show!! What bugs me is that stall assignments are posted publicly for everyone to see. I think that they should be private and only shown if you have an ID or emailed to that contestant. Cheaters are scary people. They have no sense of wrong and will do ANYTHING to win.
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2015-10-01 10:46 AM
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I saw where someone recommended using a cheap bike lock on the stalls. It's a deterrent, but in an emergency should break easily enough.
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 11:25 AM
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It's scary what some people would do to win... As purses get bigger I hope it doesn't get worse. Horrible, dishonest, cheaters can be found in anywhere
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Lucy's Mom
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-10-01 11:41 AM
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Friend of mine had her beautiful palomino and white spray painted and they also took Hoof Black and wrote nasty names all over her at county fair. They also chopped her mane and tail off. My friend had worked so hard, to even get that horse ready for fair since her other horse had coliced and died two months prior. When I go to over nighters which is few, I rig up something to keep my buckets at the back of the stall because I have seen even 3d/4d horses get sabotaged. I also stay with her as much as possible.
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Karlaw
Reg. Jul 2011
Posted 2015-10-01 12:54 PM
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I heard about this, pathetic what they will do & they are NFR qualifiers that people think are the most amazing people. Just imagine what they give their own horses to work.

As for the horse who had cocaine added to its water.... there was a very well known Futurity rider whos horse overdosed and died from Coke.....he gives it to his horses to make them "perform" better.
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-10-01 1:03 PM
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Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM  Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...     Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. 

Very interesting. I wish you could spill
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Chicken Fried
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2015-10-01 3:32 PM
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Nateracer - 2015-09-30 12:02 PM

We were at an all district show several years ago (probably 5 or more) and the 2 girls that placed at the top were from our district.  We were in a different district for the show.

  One girls brand new truck was keyed and the winning girl found a board nails up in the stall.  The board was different than any of the barn boards around the stall, so the horse did not rip it off.  

Was this in Denison, Iowa? If so I remember this happening. Made us all be on the look out. We tied the horses to the trailer after that.
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-10-01 3:40 PM
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scwebster - 2015-10-01 1:03 PM
Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM  Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...     Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. 
Very interesting. I wish you could spill

RIGHT!? I'm soooo curious. 
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rockette
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-10-01 4:29 PM
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Dash4KJ - 2015-09-30 8:29 PM  Jonetta had 3 needle marks on her left vein and 2 on her right at ft worth one year. I know who did it, NFR qualifiers that people think are really nice people.. My horse was not the only barrel horse to get the wrath of their ugly ways to win.. They knew who it was as well...     Always stay with your horse, don't leave them on site at night and don't hang buckets if your not around. Sad you have to do that to keep your hard working horses safe. 
Very interesting. I wish you could spill. 

RIGHT!? I'm soooo curious. 

Maybe just give a first initial? Hehe.
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FlyingHigh1454
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-10-01 8:50 PM
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Karlaw - 2015-10-01 1:54 PM

I heard about this, pathetic what they will do & they are NFR qualifiers that people think are the most amazing people. Just imagine what they give their own horses to work.

As for the horse who had cocaine added to its water.... there was a very well known Futurity rider whos horse overdosed and died from Coke.....he gives it to his horses to make them "perform" better.

Well I can promise you that we didn't give our already hot headed mare cocainel.... LOL, We don't need to cheat to win at 4H shows. Children are encouraged to do this stuff which is just awful.

Edited by FlyingHigh1454 2015-10-01 8:57 PM
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