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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I agree, Samantha. I'm glad you understand what I was trying to say, but I'm not surprised....you get it. Basically, it's about sweeping generalizations.
I'm by no means a religious scholar, but if I sat down and wrote out a list of similarities and between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, I think a lot of people would be quite surprised. For instance, we hear the term, "Judaeo-Christian" used, however the Jews only recognize Christ as one of many people who claimed to be "the Messiah". They believe the "Messiah" has yet to come. Muslims believe that Jesus was a very important prophet who was devinely inspired. They do not believe he died on the cross, but they do believe that he does sit at the right hand of God and will one day judge us.
I don't mean to get into some deep religious sidetrack.....just illustrating a point. I've had plenty of discussions and debates with Muslim relatives! I understand them better than most, and they aren't the evil people they're made out to be. The obvious problem we face is ferreting out the twisted evildoers among them.
A good president could seize the opportunity and lead the world to rise up and destroy ISIS and the rest of the bad guys. Unfortunately, past events have led the Arabs to mistrust most people from the west. I can cite a number of examples. The average rank-and-file Arab doesn't trust anyone, and it's not without good reason. George HW Bush came very close to winning them over during the Gulf War, but what happened in Southern Iraq in its aftermath shattered that trust. His defeat in '92 eliminated any chance of reclaiming that trust....but I think we were on the right track for a while. | |
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| decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this....... | |
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Location: PNW | Here is a post from Fiorina. I think she articulated this beautifully.
"Like all of you, I am angry.
I am heartsick and heartbroken at the carnage in Paris.
I am filled with revulsion for the terrorists who carried out these brutal attacks and the murderous Islamist extremism that fuels their violent hatred.
I am profoundly disappointed that our own President cannot bring himself to speak with the same clarity of purpose as do President Hollande and Prime Minister Cameron.
Mostly though, I am angry.
Angry that just yesterday morning, hours before the Paris attacks began and against all the evidence, President Obama declared ISIS “contained” and took a victory lap. They are not a JV team, Mr. President. They are not contained. They are at our shores and their measure of victory is the body count.
I am angry that Hillary Clinton dares to ask “what difference does it make” how four Americans died in Benghazi. And then she tells us that we must empathize with our enemies. Mrs. Clinton, when the United States does not answer a purposeful terrorist attack on our embassy with a purposeful and powerful response, but instead blames a video, you invite more terrorism and bloodshed.
I am angry that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton declared victory in Iraq in 2011, abandoned all our hard-won gains for political expediency and contrary to the advice of our generals, thus leaving vast swaths of territory and too much weaponry to be gobbled up by ISIS.
I am angry that President Obama unilaterally decides that we’ll accept refugees while his administration admits we cannot determine their ties to terrorism.
Mostly I am outraged because the murder, mayhem, danger and tragedy we see unfolding in Paris, throughout the Middle East and too often in our own homeland, are the direct consequence of this administration’s policies. You cannot lead from behind.
The world is a tragic and dangerous place when we do not lead. We cannot be the world’s policeman, but we must be the world’s leader. And so let us consider why only America can lead the world.
Our nation was founded on a unique premise: that each individual life has value, that we judge an individual by the content of their character, as Martin Luther King said, not by the group to which they belong. Our nation was founded on the idea that each of us has the right to fulfill our potential – life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness – and our Founders said this right comes from God and should not be taken away by government.
Our Constitution was written as much to curb the abuse of power by government as it was to protect individual rights.
We are not a perfect nation and we have worked hard to become a more perfect union. But we are an exceptional nation. And it is nevertheless true that more things have been more possible for more people regardless of their circumstances here, than anywhere else on earth. And it is also true that we are the only nation in the history of the world that possesses military superiority and yet uses that power not to conquer territory or to subjugate others, but to liberate, uplift and comfort people around the world.
This, Mr. President, is why we are an exceptional nation. And because we are exceptional, we must lead." | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | That was brilliant. I really like her. I don't think I have heard her say anything I don't agree with. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true. | |
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3318439/KATIE-HOPKINS-Britain-just-going-sit-wait-day-reckoning-going-remember-value-start-fighting-save-it.html
"I am pointing the finger of blame squarely at the BBC who told us, 'Few Muslims have sympathy with the Charlie Hebdo massacres.' Actually the figure was 27%. More than a quarter sympathised with the motives behind the massacre.
I'd like to ask these fools, do you sympathise with the killers now that close to 200 are dead or dying?
When we live in a country where a seriously significant number of British Muslims think a massacre was okay, how far away are we from our own day of reckoning? How far away are we from our own Friday 13th, a horror of our own making?"
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Location: north dakota | Bear - 2015-11-14 10:23 PM
TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so? | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 11:16 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 10:23 PM
TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so?
For starters, look at the history of their immigration policy and open borders.
Chew on that for a while. | |
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Location: north dakota | Bear - 2015-11-14 11:21 PM
ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 11:16 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 10:23 PM
TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so?
For starters, look at the history of their immigration policy and open borders.
Chew on that for a while.
My step brother moved there. He also married a citizen and even after having a kid he had a tough time staying there. He makes less than a person born there having the same job and had to complete more education to do his job and testing high he still makes less | |
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Location: PNW | ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 9:27 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 11:21 PM
ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 11:16 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 10:23 PM
TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so?
For starters, look at the history of their immigration policy and open borders.
Chew on that for a while.
My step brother moved there. He also married a citizen and even after having a kid he had a tough time staying there. He makes less than a person born there having the same job and had to complete more education to do his job and testing high he still makes less
France has been one of the MOST sympathetic towards the Muslims and has allowed anybody and everybody into their country. They might not necessarily offer equal opportunities (such as your brother's situation), but they don't stop people from coming in - until now. France has always had weak foreign policies, and now they are experiencing some ramifications of that. If the United States doesn't stop trying to coddle the Middle East like some misunderstood petulant child, we are in for it also. | |
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| svincent - 2015-11-14 11:48 PM
ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 9:27 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 11:21 PM
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Bear - 2015-11-14 10:23 PM
TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so?
For starters, look at the history of their immigration policy and open borders.
Chew on that for a while.
My step brother moved there. He also married a citizen and even after having a kid he had a tough time staying there. He makes less than a person born there having the same job and had to complete more education to do his job and testing high he still makes less
France has been one of the MOST sympathetic towards the Muslims and has allowed anybody and everybody into their country. They might not necessarily offer equal opportunities (such as your brother's situation ), but they don't stop people from coming in - until now. France has always had weak foreign policies, and now they are experiencing some ramifications of that. If the United States doesn't stop trying to coddle the Middle East like some misunderstood petulant child, we are in for it also.
Its too late, even the FBI director says its 100% going to happen. The scumbags are already here. | |
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Location: PNW | Itsme - 2015-11-14 10:00 PM
svincent - 2015-11-14 11:48 PM
ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 9:27 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 11:21 PM
ndcowgirl - 2015-11-14 11:16 PM
Bear - 2015-11-14 10:23 PM
TO Cookie Monster - 2015-11-14 9:53 PM
decades of policies in France have led to a situation that they are unlikely to get a hold of until there are worse tragedies than this.......
Sad but true.
How so?
For starters, look at the history of their immigration policy and open borders.
Chew on that for a while.
My step brother moved there. He also married a citizen and even after having a kid he had a tough time staying there. He makes less than a person born there having the same job and had to complete more education to do his job and testing high he still makes less
France has been one of the MOST sympathetic towards the Muslims and has allowed anybody and everybody into their country. They might not necessarily offer equal opportunities (such as your brother's situation ), but they don't stop people from coming in - until now. France has always had weak foreign policies, and now they are experiencing some ramifications of that. If the United States doesn't stop trying to coddle the Middle East like some misunderstood petulant child, we are in for it also.
Its too late, even the FBI director says its 100% going to happen. The scumbags are already here.
Oh I completely know that. I meant that if we don't start changing our ways it is going to get worse. | |
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| Any one that worships the Quran or Shariah law are commanded to lie when they live amongst infidels in order to complete their duties and commands from their mosque Imam to commit jihad when called up or be murdered by their own mosque.
Do not forget ... The Quran instructs other muslims to kill any muslims that even think of leaving Islam ..
Also all the lovely muslim doctors and other muslims making large salaries are used as the mosques huge automatic large tithe givers of 10% ... this is their jihad from their Imam ...
It is very simple ... any person that is associated with Islam should be removed from the USA immediately due to their life long commitment of soul and body to the teachings of the Quran ideology of conquering the world and take no prisoners ...
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| SHAME ON THOSE FOR TRYING TO SOFTEN THE REALITY OF WHAT A MUSLIM MUST DO ON COMMAND FROM THEIR MOSQUE AND IMAM...
ORDER NUMBER 1... IS TO REMAIN PEACEFUL, LIE, LIVE QUIET HIDDEN LIVES UNTIL YOU GAIN IN NUMBERS TO TAKE OVER SMALL AREAS AT A TIME BY CREATING A MUSLIM NEIGHBORHOOD, CITY WITHIN A CITY WHILE EXTENDING SHARIAH LAW BY BENDING MINOR LAWS OF THE COUNTRY THEY HAVE INVADED ... AND INVADE GOVERNMENTS AND BE POLITICAL TO BE ELECTED TO ANY OFFICE YOU CAN IN THE MOVEMENT OF LONG TERM MUSLIM CONTROL ...
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A MUSLIM WAVE AN AMERICAN FLAG THAT WAS NOT ON FIRE OR WEARING ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES OUR FLAG.
HAVE YOU EVER HEARD MUSLIMS THREATEN THE TERRORIST WITH DEATH BECAUSE ISLAM IS A PEACEFUL CULT ??
lOOK AT THE WORLD 95+% OF ALL WARRING FACTIONS OR SLAUGHTERS ARE MUSLIMS DESTROYING ANYTHING THEY COME IN CONTACT WITH ... IF THERE WERE NO MUSLIMS ... LOOK HOW PEACEFUL THE WORLD WOULD BE ....
Any one that worships the Quran or Shariah law are commanded to lie when they live amongst infidels in order to complete their duties and commands from their mosque Imam to commit jihad when called up or be murdered by their own mosque.
Do not forget ... The Quran instructs other muslims to kill any muslims that even think of leaving Islam ..
Also all the lovely muslim doctors and other muslims making large salaries are used as the mosques huge automatic large tithe givers of 10% ... this is their jihad from their Imam ...
It is very simple ... any person that is associated with Islam should be removed from the USA immediately due to their life long commitment of soul and body to the teachings of the Quran ideology of conquering the world and take no prisoners ...
NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT ALLOWED ISLAMIC WARSHIPPERS TO LIVE AMONGST THE POPULATION HAS SURVIVED THEIR 1400 YEAR ONSLAUGHT DESTROYING AS THEY MIGRATE INTO COUNTRIES TO EXTEND THEIR HATE AND MURDERING WAYS ...
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | BARRELHORSEUSA, what should we do about the Muslims living here in the USA? | |
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| Yeah maybe it's time to start labeling people of a certain religion. Hmm, maybe make them wear arm bands. Then, move them all into certain sections of town. Then, F it, move them all into camps, have them do menial chores. But, I guess after a while that might not be economical, feeding them and what not. Soooo, what do you do with these people, hmmm, it's a chin scratcher. I mean why not, you know, create a way to kinda, uh, eliminate them? Oh wait....... | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | arion - 2015-11-15 6:28 AM
Yeah maybe it's time to start labeling people of a certain religion. Hmm, maybe make them wear arm bands. Then, move them all into certain sections of town. Then, F it, move them all into camps, have them do menial chores. But, I guess after a while that might not be economical, feeding them and what not. Soooo, what do you do with these people, hmmm, it's a chin scratcher. I mean why not, you know, create a way to kinda, uh, eliminate them? Oh wait.......
Dayum, now that's a reasonable approach. I like that idea. Maybe we can resurrect those camps we had back in the early 40s. Let's start by putting up an electrified, barbed wire fence around Dearborn. Just contain areas where there's high concentrations. Round up the rest of the outliers and "relocate" them to those camps......for their own safety and security, of course.
BHUSA does have a point. There are no patriotic Muslims living in America. I know this because I've never seen one wave a flag or wear a flag, or wear a nifty flag on their lapel. Come to think of it, I haven't either. I'm of Lebanese ancestry.....plus I don't have a flag......and I'm one of those doctors too. I guess I need to be prepared for my relocation as well.
All sarcasm aside, we really do need to have a way of labeling these people, for our own safety and security. Perhaps a tattoo on the forehead would be more fashionable these days. | |
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| Bear - 2015-11-15 7:38 AM
arion - 2015-11-15 6:28 AM
Yeah maybe it's time to start labeling people of a certain religion. Hmm, maybe make them wear arm bands. Then, move them all into certain sections of town. Then, F it, move them all into camps, have them do menial chores. But, I guess after a while that might not be economical, feeding them and what not. Soooo, what do you do with these people, hmmm, it's a chin scratcher. I mean why not, you know, create a way to kinda, uh, eliminate them? Oh wait.......
Dayum, now that's a reasonable approach. I like that idea. Maybe we can resurrect those camps we had back in the early 40s. Let's start by putting up an electrified, barbed wire fence around Dearborn. Just contain areas where there's high concentrations. Round up the rest of the outliers and "relocate" them to those camps......for their own safety and security, of course.
BHUSA does have a point. There are no patriotic Muslims living in America. I know this because I've never seen one wave a flag or wear a flag, or wear a nifty flag on their lapel. Come to think of it, I haven't either. I'm of Lebanese ancestry.....plus I don't have a flag......and I'm one of those doctors too. I guess I need to be prepared for my relocation as well.
All sarcasm aside, we really do need to have a way of labeling these people, for our own safety and security. Perhaps a tattoo on the forehead would be more fashionable these days.
time to brand you.....
the whole evolution of our society, here in america, will lead to the same result in france......limited immigration concerns, socialist policies, a younger generation that has been brought up without responsibility or concern for consequences of any sort......France lost their country years ago....most of the elite, just didn't realize it until it was too late..... | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | BHUSA, disregard my question regarding what we should do with American Muslims. I missed the part of your C&P where you said all Muslims and everyone associated with them need to be "removed".
Who are you anyway? Are you a man, or a woman? What is your name?
You make brave, bold statements. Are you willing to affix your name to them, or are you too afraid to own your words? | |
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| LOL@ bear, you want to coddle these child molesting and women raping cowards. I dont care that your dad believed in a pedophile skydaddy, the majority of them are disgusting almost humans. | |
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