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| Bear - 2015-12-31 8:19 AM
WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-12-31 4:12 AM
If something doesn't have any scientific data to explain how it works... I pass. There are plenty of alternative therapies that have been studied. Take turmeric for an example. There has been quite a few studies about curcumin, so yes I do feed turmeric because of that.
Exactly. Turmeric is a good example.
I agree with this I have been flamed hard for being skeptic of particular alternative therapies but I'm actually all for them and plenty have been proven to work but flaming people for asking questions is a little hypocritical don't u think??? |
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| streakysox - 2015-12-30 7:25 PM trickster j - 2015-12-30 9:00 AM streakysox - 2015-12-29 7:24 PM Martha Josey is a very good friend. I have known her since 1964. She endorses them and sells them. I will be sure and let her know that people think pro barrel racers don't have enough sense to figure out what actually works the next time I go out to eat with her and RE. She will certainly get a laugh out of it. I know that they work on me. LOL- the name dropping....... I think what I was trying to point out here is that Martha Josey sells and endorses the patches. When they were trying to recruit distributors, they were having presentations at there place weekly. You don't have any big name friends?
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Location: The Lone Star State | I'm going to tell you my experience and you need to know I am the biggest sceptic out there and do not buy into every "flavor of the month cure all" that said last June while at a wpra approved jackpot in louisana my mare, who is not a good traveler became severely dehydrated while we were waiting to run. She was completely saddled in her stall. It was about 12 noon and hot and in the middle of bfe Louisiana she started literally throwing herself against the walls, couldn't walk, kept drawing up it was horrible!! We had no idea what was happening but we yanked all the tack off her and my friend tried to walk her or keep her calm while I frantically ran all over the arena trying to find a vet or get a number just anything. I finally got a number but it would be 2 hours before the closest vet could get there. I really thought she would die right there no joke. It was baaad. So while forcing salt water and electrolytes down her throat there was a small table set up in the warm up pen from the acu life ppl. They said we can help they put the patches all over her and within 10 minutes she be an to calm down and stopped trying to lay down. I was amazed at how quickly they worked. It bought us just enough time for the vet to get there and put 10 liters of fluid in her. I would never discount them again. Definitely no tom foolery there. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Bear - 2015-12-30 11:59 PM I'm still waiting for something to convince me they work. I see a lot of vitriol directed at doubters and lots of stories, but not a shread of real evidence that makes me re-think my opinion. I'm open to anyone willing to provide me with some objective evidence. I know a lot of people who have tried them and say they didn't have any effect. The only thing that impresses me so far is the tenacity and anger of the distributors involved with this multilevel marketing scheme. Knowing how these pyramid schemes work, I'm not surprised. Are Aculife patches advertisers on BHW? I've actually tried a few alternative therapies in the past. Most were a waste of money, in my experience. The jury is still out on a couple, as far as I'm concerned. Try this: explain how they work.
Try This: explain how God works. It's a bit difficult, eh? Maybe you are agnostic ot athiest, I do not know...but I do know I cannot explain God except by faith, but I believe he is real and works in my life. |
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| My trainer documents EVERYTHING. She had a horse that had an abscess and was three legged lame. She videoed the horse walking and as she patched the horse. She waited a few minutes and videoed the horse again--walking sound. I think the abscess busted out the next day. That video may be on the acculife site, don't know.
Long story short we had my three year old tied to the trailer next to my witchy mare. My mare started kicking the filly and she pulled back hard enough to break the tie ring. Her neck has been sore since--that was about a month ago. When my trainer ran the filly Friday night, she had a nice run but was a little stiff going to the left. She ran 16.4 and the winning time was 15.0. I asked trainer to patch her for Saturday's run. The filly ran a 15.4 and the winning time was 14.8. I would say that is some definite improvement. Acculife patches are not going to fix a soundness problem but they can certainly help soreness issues that might be caused by a soundness issue. The filly will go to the chiropractor this week to eliminate the issue.
One more time, the paint in my a avatar was body sore from EPM when he went to the world show. He ran with patches on and ended up TOP 10 in barrels and RESERVE WORLD CHAMPION in poles. He would not have been able to perform without the patches, I am sure of that. I am just glad they were available for us to use.
My suggestion is that if you don't believe what the do, don't buy them. Don't claim something is hocus pocus unless you have PROOF that it DOES NOT work. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | CrossCreek - 2016-01-03 10:49 PM
Bear - 2015-12-30 11:59 PM I'm still waiting for something to convince me they work. I see a lot of vitriol directed at doubters and lots of stories, but not a shread of real evidence that makes me re-think my opinion. I'm open to anyone willing to provide me with some objective evidence. I know a lot of people who have tried them and say they didn't have any effect. The only thing that impresses me so far is the tenacity and anger of the distributors involved with this multilevel marketing scheme. Knowing how these pyramid schemes work, I'm not surprised. Are Aculife patches advertisers on BHW? I've actually tried a few alternative therapies in the past. Most were a waste of money, in my experience. The jury is still out on a couple, as far as I'm concerned. Try this: explain how they work.
Try This: explain how God works. It's a bit difficult, eh? Maybe you are agnostic ot athiest, I do not know...but I do know I cannot explain God except by faith, but I believe he is real and works in my life.
Seriously? You are comparing your belief in a product to one's faith in God?
All I asked was for someone to explain in their own words how they work. I don't think that is asking too much, is it?
Even though this is just a multilevel marketing scheme, I'm willing to keep an open mind about it. Asking how it works is a reasonable request. In my opinion, this thread should be on the product forum. |
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Too busy outside!
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| streakysox - 2016-01-03 9:09 PM My trainer documents EVERYTHING. She had a horse that had an abscess and was three legged lame. She videoed the horse walking and as she patched the horse. She waited a few minutes and videoed the horse again--walking sound. I think the abscess busted out the next day. That video may be on the acculife site, don't know. Long story short we had my three year old tied to the trailer next to my witchy mare. My mare started kicking the filly and she pulled back hard enough to break the tie ring. Her neck has been sore since--that was about a month ago. When my trainer ran the filly Friday night, she had a nice run but was a little stiff going to the left. She ran 16.4 and the winning time was 15.0. I asked trainer to patch her for Saturday's run. The filly ran a 15.4 and the winning time was 14.8. I would say that is some definite improvement. Acculife patches are not going to fix a soundness problem but they can certainly help soreness issues that might be caused by a soundness issue. The filly will go to the chiropractor this week to eliminate the issue. One more time, the paint in my a avatar was body sore from EPM when he went to the world show. He ran with patches on and ended up TOP 10 in barrels and RESERVE WORLD CHAMPION in poles. He would not have been able to perform without the patches, I am sure of that. I am just glad they were available for us to use. My suggestion is that if you don't believe what the do, don't buy them. Don't claim something is hocus pocus unless you have PROOF that it DOES NOT work.
Did your trainer document the 7 girls at the NFR who ran with Aculife patches? I'm still waiting to see that list... thanks |
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | "The statements herein have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. We certify that all LifeWave™ patches are manufactured at FDA registered facilities and in accordance with the specifications in our Patent filing. LifeWave™, LLC does not endorse claims or have scientific proof that it's products are effective in the cure, mitigation, treatment or prevention of disease in man or animal. This product is not intended to be used in the treatment, prevention or cure of disease. Use product only as directed. Do not use product if you have a health condition. Please consult your healthcare professional before using should you have any concerns."
I guess this quote certainly covers all the bases......taken from "LifeWave". I love the warning: "Do not use product if you have a health condition." |
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