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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | SKM - 2015-12-31 3:59 PM Anyone that thinks the men don't have drama has obviously not paid attention to the tie down in 2015. Just sayin...
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2015-12-31 3:45 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 2:28 PM I think the women bring sparkle to the NFR and its cool to watch the ladys run and see what they are wearing, but the guys I dont think they could pull that off to good. I dont think the guys could pull off wearing the prettys that the grils bring into the arena. LOL
LOL, I think the women bring the beauty into the rodeo's....the barrel racers just add a flair to the NFR.
Like to see some male barrel racer match Fallon's looks, lol |
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OK woman,,,, now fill me in on the wig thing you lost me there.. LOL  |
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I would watch the barrel racing at the NFR and other top levels for the beauty and talent of the amazing horses...and the talent of the rider...whatever their gender. Seems a bit demeaning to say that the ladies are there to "Be Pretty".
Interesting to hear so many say they wouldn't want the boys to be allowed to play. Surprising in this day and time to me at least.
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Location: sunny california | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 2:16 PM Frodo - 2015-12-31 3:45 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 2:28 PM I think the women bring sparkle to the NFR and its cool to watch the ladys run and see what they are wearing, but the guys I dont think they could pull that off to good. I dont think the guys could pull off wearing the prettys that the grils bring into the arena. LOL
Like to see some male barrel racer match Fallon's looks, lol
well I don't know, a man was named "Woman of the Year" He wore sparkly stuff |
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 4:18 PM OK woman,,,, now fill me in on the wig thing you lost me there.. LOL
Stuff a bra, and slap on a wig haha |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | kwanatha - 2015-12-31 4:36 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 2:16 PM Frodo - 2015-12-31 3:45 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 2:28 PM I think the women bring sparkle to the NFR and its cool to watch the ladys run and see what they are wearing, but the guys I dont think they could pull that off to good. I dont think the guys could pull off wearing the prettys that the grils bring into the arena. LOL
Like to see some male barrel racer match Fallon's looks, lol
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-12-31 4:44 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 4:18 PM OK woman,,,, now fill me in on the wig thing you lost me there.. LOL
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | OK all kidding aside here, WPRA is that, and they are all women, but if the NFR wants men running with the women I guess that would be their choice, but isnt the WPRA not part of the PRCA the PRCA invited WPRA to run at the NFR? |
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| Men and women competing doesn't bother me. But, as a spectator at a rodeo, (especially remembering as a little girl watching), there's nothing like watching the girls come in and rip it up in the barrel racing. They add a level of excitement...just listen to the crowd. I think they bring something great to it for the fans. |
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Location: East of the Pecos | I think if they let men in the WPRA it would be a non-event. I just don't see them stepping out of their comfort zone and haul like the girls do. A lot of guy barrel racers are family men and are the bread winners, and the rest are futurity/derby trainers with a following of loyal owners. They aren't going to dump all this for uncharted territory. It's a rough way to go when you rodeo full time. I see the guys sticking with the big jackpots and the American, and the girls dominating the rodeos. Maybe the biggest thing we'd see is a few of the guys entering some local rodeos and figuring out real fast that the draw/ground will get you outrun a percentage of the time and they will stick with the more predictable jackpots where they drag after every 5. |
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I'll add that I agree with the poster who basically said: It makes no sense for a male to want to go to the NFR and haul to more than 60 rodeos a year just to make what they could in 4-5 runs at The American.... So, I've seen a few posts like this, that says it doesn't make sense for men to want to qualify for the NFR. How is anybody so sure of that? Men have never had the chance so how do we know that no man would set out a goal at the beginning of the year to qualify for the NFR? What makes women go to 60-100 rodeos a year to qualify for the NFR? It sounds crazy for either sex to want to do it, but every year numerous women set out with the NFR as their goal. Many women have barrel racing in rodeo as a career. There is no reason a man can't do the same.
Without men ever having the chance to do it, we'll never know if they would qualify. For instance, whats to say the Etbauer kids, who are raised in a rodeo family and both the boys and girls compete in barrels, wouldn't all try to qualify for the NFR in barrels (once they are 18)?
My post isn't just about the WPRA, it's also about the ERA. The ERA says their is a qualifying system (and they are piggybacking on the PRCA standings) but when it comes to barrels, Charmayne, Brittany, Kassidy and Chanyi were not invited off of recent 2015 WPRA/PRCA standings. Not the I disagree that they shouldn't be invited, but it sounds like the invitation system right now is a little open so maybe the ERA could start the new trend and invite a male or two.
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 5:10 PM
OK all kidding aside here, WPRA is that, and they are all women, but if the NFR wants men running with the women I guess that would be their choice, but isnt the WPRA not part of the PRCA the PRCA invited WPRA to run at the NFR?
You are correct. PRCA does not offer barrels as an event. PRCA decided along time ago not to open that can of worms. WPRA is only there by invitation and agreement. That agreement has a time frame and has to be renewed from time to time. If the PRCA decided to offer barrels it would be open to both men and women ass per their rules. If the PRCA ever did decide to offer barrels or choose not to renew their agreement the WPRA or sign an agreement with another association there would not be any WPRA at the NFR. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jbhoot - 2015-12-31 7:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 5:10 PM OK all kidding aside here, WPRA is that, and they are all women, but if the NFR wants men running with the women I guess that would be their choice, but isnt the WPRA not part of the PRCA the PRCA invited WPRA to run at the NFR? You are correct. PRCA does not offer barrels as an event. PRCA decided along time ago not to open that can of worms. WPRA is only there by invitation and agreement. That agreement has a time frame and has to be renewed from time to time. If the PRCA decided to offer barrels it would be open to both men and women ass per their rules. If the PRCA ever did decide to offer barrels or choose not to renew their agreement the WPRA or sign an agreement with another association there would not be any WPRA at the NFR.
I think you have a short memory....The PRCA DID offer barrel racing under the auspices of the Professional Womens' Barrel Racing. The PRCA Board voted to form the PWBR for the 2007 rodeo season....Note: they kept it limited to WOMEN and they were full fledged members of the PRCA....until the WPRA sued.
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | barlracr429 - 2015-12-31 7:23 PM
. THIS.
I'll add that I agree with the poster who basically said: It makes no sense for a male to want to go to the NFR and haul to more than 60 rodeos a year just to make what they could in 4-5 runs at The American....
Without men ever having the chance to do it, we'll never know if they would qualify. For instance, whats to say the Etbauer kids, who are raised in a rodeo family and both the boys and girls compete in barrels, wouldn't all try to qualify for the NFR in barrels (once they are 18)?
My post isn't just about the WPRA, it's also about the ERA. The ERA says their is a qualifying system (and they are piggybacking on the PRCA standings) but when it comes to barrels, Charmayne, Brittany, Kassidy and Chanyi were not invited off of recent 2015 WPRA/PRCA standings. Not the I disagree that they shouldn't be invited, but it sounds like the invitation system right now is a little open so maybe the ERA could start the new trend and invite a male or two.
There are men already hauling to rodeos who I think would participate. If the payout was enough. It would add to their all around money won, for the ones already competing in multiple events. |
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Location: That part of Texas | cheryl makofka - 2015-12-31 1:17 PM Nita - 2015-12-31 10:52 AM cheryl makofka - 2015-12-31 10:17 AM The reason men cannot barrel race is it is a women's professional rodeo event. Prca allows the barrel racing event to take place at their rodeos. Since it is a women's association it would be like a man entering women's tennis, women's golf. It will be interesting to see in the years to come if transgendered or sex changed individuals will be able to enter Not exactly. Tennis or golf, or any other athletic event, measure an individual's physical abillities against another. Most men will have more upper body strength and can swing a tennis racket or golf club to generate more power than most women. **Most** being the keyword. So, competition is gender specific. I think it's more akin to women and men competing in Olympic Show Jumping, which is allowed.
I understand your point that the association is a women's association, tho. As for the people who say women can't compete in prca sanctioned events. There is the one saddle bronc rider who is female and I know she has won some money. I can't think of her name atm.
In golf, you do realize that the women's tee box is always set in front of the men's, right? We are given an edge on shorter distances to the hole because physically, 99% of women aren't going to outdrive a man who is of the same handicap or skill. By default, golf courses compensate for physical weakness in women and senior men by tee box placement as a way to level the playing field from the first hit. |
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| jbhoot - 2015-12-31 5:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 5:10 PM OK all kidding aside here, WPRA is that, and they are all women, but if the NFR wants men running with the women I guess that would be their choice, but isnt the WPRA not part of the PRCA the PRCA invited WPRA to run at the NFR? You are correct. PRCA does not offer barrels as an event. PRCA decided along time ago not to open that can of worms. WPRA is only there by invitation and agreement. That agreement has a time frame and has to be renewed from time to time. If the PRCA decided to offer barrels it would be open to both men and women ass per their rules. If the PRCA ever did decide to offer barrels or choose not to renew their agreement the WPRA or sign an agreement with another association there would not be any WPRA at the NFR.
That's the year we had to join the PRCA's barrel racing association, the PWBR in order to pro rodeo. And we were under PRCA's rules. The WPRA was not at the NFR that year.
Edited to add: The barrel racing was obviously changed and given "back" to the WPRA shorly thereafter.
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| NJJ - 2015-12-31 8:05 PM
jbhoot - 2015-12-31 7:51 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-12-31 5:10 PM OK all kidding aside here, WPRA is that, and they are all women, but if the NFR wants men running with the women I guess that would be their choice, but isnt the WPRA not part of the PRCA the PRCA invited WPRA to run at the NFR? You are correct. PRCA does not offer barrels as an event. PRCA decided along time ago not to open that can of worms. WPRA is only there by invitation and agreement. That agreement has a time frame and has to be renewed from time to time. If the PRCA decided to offer barrels it would be open to both men and women ass per their rules. If the PRCA ever did decide to offer barrels or choose not to renew their agreement the WPRA or sign an agreement with another association there would not be any WPRA at the NFR.
Yep and that was my point back on page one. Sooner or later somebody with enough money will sue and win against the WPRA. PRCA did not loose on discrimination it lost on contract law. Stop and think every private and public association that has been sued on discrimination has ether lost or folded to pressure and opened their admission sooner or later. Even Augusta country club a mens only club folded to women after 60 years in 2012. All it takes is time and a lot of money. |
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