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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-05 3:55 PM This is a good thread that was brought up, maybe the OP just saved a few others from being riped off by these people, it should open up some eyes that are looking to buy. If looking at any horses that these people or anybody else that has horses for sale,,,, NOW we all know to look deeper and do more homework on the horses that we are looking at.
Thanks haulin4cash you may have helped somebody else from not getting riped off 
Edit cause I forgot a word, 
^^^^ THIS....I think what can be learned from EVERY thread about dishonest sellers is that a person needs to do their homework and ask around before getting sucked in by a lowball price. The barrel horse world is very big YET VERY SMALL, at times, because dishonest sellers (traders) are usually well known! |
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Location: Nor Cal | Please PM me as I am helping a friend look for a horse. Thanks! |
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| i hope the mods will look into this as these people have done this several times and maybe ban these guys. |
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 Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | It's happened to most of us at some point. There's a pair like that in every state. Get the word out as best you can. |
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Location: Usually on my horse | One more thing, if anybody else has been ripped off by these jerks, please PM me. I have a lawyer in KY that is very interested in helping us. |
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| If anyone would like to pm me I can tell you of another crooked horse seller on here. Big time liar! |
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 The BHW Book Worm
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| CanCan - 2016-01-05 8:09 PM
It's happened to most of us at some point. There's a pair like that in every state. Get the word out as best you can.
Totally agree with this it's sad though that even when you post solid hard proof it's deleted!!! There are many that know my story and everyone is more than welcome to PM so I can give you the cold hard evidence, the name of the snake, and a list of people who were in the same boat as I. Last time I posted her name on here it lasted 2 days so instead of being a rebel and just posting it to get deleted I'll just let you know she is in Utah and recently had her well known stud die that was sired by Frenchmans guy. |
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| I was glad I asked as I had interest in a few they've listed. However, I have a hard time buying from any horse trader which was the main reason I didnt pursue these folks. Even the traders who dont intentionally screw you over, they dont keep the horses long enough or evaluate them enough to really advertise them properly. They may not include something because they flip them in a few days or a week. They may be sound or sane in those couple days. I am in no way making excuses because there is always the intentional misinformation but sometimes they just dont know heads or tails of that partciular horse and make claims they cant stand behind. Which is why I am skeptical about any traders. |
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| I might add that BHW is looking into various rating systems or into creating a new one for this site. Any of your ideas would be welcome at this time.
If you have ideas or simply your input or experience with a bad seller, send them!! That would help a lot.
You can send to me: [email protected]
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Steve BHWNews - 2016-01-08 3:56 PM I might add that BHW is looking into various rating systems or into creating a new one for this site. Any of your ideas would be welcome at this time.
If you have ideas or simply your input or experience with a bad seller, send them!! That would help a lot.
You can send to me: [email protected]
Wow now this would be so COOL, it sure would stop alot of bad sales happening.
So maybe like a star rating system? |
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Location: Northwest Florida | I think a seller rating, something similar to eBay's or Amazon's would be very beneficial. That would be a way to see if the sellers have happy or unhappy customers, and decide if you can trust them enough to make a purchase, especially for someone purchasing sight unseen. Just a simple 1-5 stars and a detailed review.
it could be viewed, just like when you click "see sellers other horses" there could be a link for "see seller reviews"
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | BigStarBound - 2016-01-08 4:11 PM I think a seller rating, something similar to eBay's or Amazon's would be very beneficial. That would be a way to see if the sellers have happy or unhappy customers, and decide if you can trust them enough to make a purchase, especially for someone purchasing sight unseen. Just a simple 1-5 stars and a detailed review.
Now that would be a dandy way of weeding out the bad sellers. On E-bay I always would check out the sellers ratings befor I bought anything. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-08 4:13 PM BigStarBound - 2016-01-08 4:11 PM I think a seller rating, something similar to eBay's or Amazon's would be very beneficial. That would be a way to see if the sellers have happy or unhappy customers, and decide if you can trust them enough to make a purchase, especially for someone purchasing sight unseen. Just a simple 1-5 stars and a detailed review. Now that would be a dandy way of weeding out the bad sellers. On E-bay I always would check out the sellers ratings befor I bought anything.
I did too....However, I would think that "legally" you would have to also allow the seller the opportunity to write a rebuttal.......Not ALL sales are bad due to the "seller".......but uneducated buyers......... |
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Location: Northwest Florida | NJJ - 2016-01-08 4:24 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-08 4:13 PM BigStarBound - 2016-01-08 4:11 PM I think a seller rating, something similar to eBay's or Amazon's would be very beneficial. That would be a way to see if the sellers have happy or unhappy customers, and decide if you can trust them enough to make a purchase, especially for someone purchasing sight unseen. Just a simple 1-5 stars and a detailed review. Now that would be a dandy way of weeding out the bad sellers. On E-bay I always would check out the sellers ratings befor I bought anything.
eBay allows for a rebuttal, I wouldn't see a problem with that on here either.
Personally, I do a LOT of selling on eBay and the whole rating system is a huge motivation to keep the buyer happy (I mean morals work, too... But obviously they aren't for everyone!)
I just think it holds sellers more accountable. If they want to continue selling horses they need to ensure their customers are happy, just as any business would. There are countless sights for rating businesses out there but I've yet to see a horse advertising site that allows you to see a profile with ratings on the seller. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-01-08 4:24 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-01-08 4:13 PM BigStarBound - 2016-01-08 4:11 PM I think a seller rating, something similar to eBay's or Amazon's would be very beneficial. That would be a way to see if the sellers have happy or unhappy customers, and decide if you can trust them enough to make a purchase, especially for someone purchasing sight unseen. Just a simple 1-5 stars and a detailed review. Now that would be a dandy way of weeding out the bad sellers. On E-bay I always would check out the sellers ratings befor I bought anything.
Yep theres just as many bad buyers out there as well as the sellers but we still would have to do some homework befor buying/selling. I still think its a pretty cool ideal. Maybe at least give it a time period and see how it works out.  |
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Location: Canada | I would love to see a rating system. I bought a horse listed on this site from someone who regularly sells on here. They lied, fabricated results, and must have known the vet I paid the vet check for. I'd Love to leave a review as I know several others on here who had very similar negative experiences with that business. |
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Location: western Nebraska | I think this is going to be a nightmare. I see people that buy horses that they can't ride or don't keep the everything the same as the person that was winning on the horse. So then they blame the seller when the horse probably was not missrepresented as much as the buyer buying above their level. I agree there are some sellers that are very dishonest but how to keep this from becoming a witch hunt. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | doglady - 2016-01-08 7:33 PM I think this is going to be a nightmare. I see people that buy horses that they can't ride or don't keep the everything the same as the person that was winning on the horse. So then they blame the seller when the horse probably was not missrepresented as much as the buyer buying above their level. I agree there are some sellers that are very dishonest but how to keep this from becoming a witch hunt.
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Keeper of the King Snake
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Location: Dubach, LA | Good idea. It works in other venues such as eBay and Vrbo houses. Way more dishonest sellers than buyers.
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