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| hammer_time - 2016-03-23 1:33 PM
 I have one shot left (IV) and I might just go to Adequan....Or maybe Cur-Ost.....and forego the shot altogether because my horse isn't in hard work.....the sketchiness of HPR just makes me worried.  And I don't want to have to the IV because I don't know how and seriously can't imagine learning....freaks me out!!  :(
LOL I learned to do IV shots late in life. I had a horse have a super bad reaction to banamine once and was also tired of having to haul to the vet for a simple Legend shot IV. SHe showed me how to do it and I felt so dumb I hadnt learned sooner. But I know what your saying! |
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| Curost will not replace adequan or pentosan. You will at some point be told by using it,you will not need injections. In truth most horses will still need injected. Adequan you give in the muscle and regular pentosan is in the muscle. I like to give Lubrsyn daily. PHT magnets will help also. What I do now is Equine Regen Plus and Vitalize High Performance. Feed renew gold because I do not feed processed feeds. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | readytorodeo - 2016-03-23 5:01 PM Curost will not replace adequan or pentosan. You will at some point be told by using it,you will not need injections. In truth most horses will still need injected. Adequan you give in the muscle and regular pentosan is in the muscle. I like to give Lubrsyn daily. PHT magnets will help also. What I do now is Equine Regen Plus and Vitalize High Performance. Feed renew gold because I do not feed processed feeds.
Is there a cheaper place to buy this or is it really $298 a month! |
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| You get a 10% discount for new customers. It last 36 days and there is no need for other supplements. I do adequan every other week when I'm hauling hard or Polyglycan. I don't give Lasix anymore.
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Location: Phoenix | FLITASTIC - 2016-03-23 1:48 PM hammer_time - 2016-03-23 1:33 PM I have one shot left (IV) and I might just go to Adequan....Or maybe Cur-Ost.....and forego the shot altogether because my horse isn't in hard work.....the sketchiness of HPR just makes me worried. And I don't want to have to the IV because I don't know how and seriously can't imagine learning....freaks me out!! :( LOL I learned to do IV shots late in life. I had a horse have a super bad reaction to banamine once and was also tired of having to haul to the vet for a simple Legend shot IV. SHe showed me how to do it and I felt so dumb I hadnt learned sooner. But I know what your saying!
Is it hard? Like is the vein larger than we think it is or is it smaller? Ahhhh!!
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| Get someone to show.you.how to.give a IV injection before you do.it. |
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| So what does the new bottles of REGULAR pentosan say? IM or IV? |
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Location: NE Texas | I have never read anywhere where Dr. Schell has said that you will 100% not have the need for joint injections when using the Cur-OST products. Each horse is different, and the damage done is not repairable. The idea behind the Cur-OST is to reduce the inflammation, thereby reducing further damage, thereby reducing pain. Some horses may still require joint injections, if there is severe damage. Ideally they won't, but in some extreme cases there may still be a need unfortunately.
I have personally seen a horse who was about to go in the next day for an IRAP procedure with big knots on his hocks. The owner chose to do a consult with Dr. Schell, as she didn't have a good feeling proceeding with the IRAP due the the horse also dealing with ulcers, stress, and anxiety and had some concerns about invading the joint with the other inflammatory conditions going on. I saw pictures a week later where the knots had drastically reduced size and the horse flexed off sound. I'm not saying that is every case, but I am saying that it is possible that one may be able to at the very least extend the time between injections or postpone them due to the slowing of damage due to reduction of inflammation.
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| Herbie - 2016-03-24 3:59 PM
 I have never read anywhere where Dr. Schell has said that you will 100% not have the need for joint injections when using the Cur-OST products. Each horse is different, and the damage done is not repairable. The idea behind the Cur-OST is to reduce the inflammation, thereby reducing further damage, thereby reducing pain. Some horses may still require joint injections, if there is severe damage. Ideally they won't, but in some extreme cases there may still be a need unfortunately.Â
I have personally seen a horse who was about to go in the next day for an IRAP procedure with big knots on his hocks. The owner chose to do a consult with Dr. Schell, as she didn't have a good feeling proceeding with the IRAP due the the horse also dealing with ulcers, stress, and anxiety and had some concerns about invading the joint with the other inflammatory conditions going on. I saw pictures a week later where the knots had drastically reduced size and the horse flexed off sound. I'm not saying that is every case, but I am saying that it is possible that one may be able to at the very least extend the time between injections or postpone them due to the slowing of damage due to reduction of inflammation.Â
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I just found out my horse has a small spur on his lower hock joint. I have asked Dr. Schell about it and am just waiting for answer. I am sure with the holidays, it maybe next week before I hear back. I am really glad to hear about you friend's horse doing so well on the Pure. I am lucky that he has a small spur and it is only slightly bothering him. I have such great results with Cur Ost. I would never have believed the changes one supplement could make if it hadn't been my own horse. |
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| GLP - 2016-03-24 2:51 PM
Herbie - 2016-03-24 3:59 PM
 I have never read anywhere where Dr. Schell has said that you will 100% not have the need for joint injections when using the Cur-OST products. Each horse is different, and the damage done is not repairable. The idea behind the Cur-OST is to reduce the inflammation, thereby reducing further damage, thereby reducing pain. Some horses may still require joint injections, if there is severe damage. Ideally they won't, but in some extreme cases there may still be a need unfortunately.Â
I have personally seen a horse who was about to go in the next day for an IRAP procedure with big knots on his hocks. The owner chose to do a consult with Dr. Schell, as she didn't have a good feeling proceeding with the IRAP due the the horse also dealing with ulcers, stress, and anxiety and had some concerns about invading the joint with the other inflammatory conditions going on. I saw pictures a week later where the knots had drastically reduced size and the horse flexed off sound. I'm not saying that is every case, but I am saying that it is possible that one may be able to at the very least extend the time between injections or postpone them due to the slowing of damage due to reduction of inflammation.Â
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I just found out my horse has a small spur on his lower hock joint. I have asked Dr. Schell about it and am just waiting for answer. I am sure with the holidays, it maybe next week before I hear back. I am really glad to hear about you friend's horse doing so well on the Pure. I am lucky that he has a small spur and it is only slightly bothering him. I have such great results with Cur Ost. I would never have believed the changes one supplement could make if it hadn't been my own horse.
My arthritic horse does great wit green every day and pure on race days... |
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| FLITASTIC - 2016-03-24 6:53 PM
GLP - 2016-03-24 2:51 PM
Herbie - 2016-03-24 3:59 PM
 I have never read anywhere where Dr. Schell has said that you will 100% not have the need for joint injections when using the Cur-OST products. Each horse is different, and the damage done is not repairable. The idea behind the Cur-OST is to reduce the inflammation, thereby reducing further damage, thereby reducing pain. Some horses may still require joint injections, if there is severe damage. Ideally they won't, but in some extreme cases there may still be a need unfortunately.Â
I have personally seen a horse who was about to go in the next day for an IRAP procedure with big knots on his hocks. The owner chose to do a consult with Dr. Schell, as she didn't have a good feeling proceeding with the IRAP due the the horse also dealing with ulcers, stress, and anxiety and had some concerns about invading the joint with the other inflammatory conditions going on. I saw pictures a week later where the knots had drastically reduced size and the horse flexed off sound. I'm not saying that is every case, but I am saying that it is possible that one may be able to at the very least extend the time between injections or postpone them due to the slowing of damage due to reduction of inflammation.Â
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I just found out my horse has a small spur on his lower hock joint. I have asked Dr. Schell about it and am just waiting for answer. I am sure with the holidays, it maybe next week before I hear back. I am really glad to hear about you friend's horse doing so well on the Pure. I am lucky that he has a small spur and it is only slightly bothering him. I have such great results with Cur Ost. I would never have believed the changes one supplement could make if it hadn't been my own horse.
My arthritic horse does great wit green every day and pure on race days...
My vet wanted him on Adequan and a glucosamine feed thru supplement . Do you do that too? |
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| I would do the Adequan. I think feed throughs are a waste of money. Equine Regen would be another thing you could try. It jump starts the stem cells. Has a strong anti inflammatory response. Also relieves pain. I feed it and do either Adequan or Polyglcan every two weeks. I also do not feed processed feeds. I feed Renew Gold and Alfalfa Hay. |
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| I use the compounded pentosan polysulfate 250 mg/ml from wedgewood pharmacy. Have for years. I use it on 4 horses here at our farm. The loading dose is 6 ml im or iv ( i do im personally) once a week for 4 weeks, then every 2 to 4 weeks depending on the horse etc. You do need a prescription from your vet but a 100 ml bottle is 160 dollars. That breaks down to 16.6 doses at less than 10 dollars a dose. And I believe shipping is 10 dollars. |
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| readytorodeo - 2016-03-24 9:02 PM
I would do the Adequan. I think feed throughs are a waste of money. Equine Regen would be another thing you could try. It jump starts the stem cells. Has a strong anti inflammatory response. Also relieves pain. I feed it and do either Adequan or Polyglcan every two weeks. I also do not feed processed feeds. I feed Renew Gold and Alfalfa Hay.
I thought stem cells had to be injected. Can you explain how this feed through works? |
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| GLP - 2016-03-24 9:43 PM
readytorodeo - 2016-03-24 9:02 PM
I would do the Adequan. I think feed throughs are a waste of money. Equine Regen would be another thing you could try. It jump starts the stem cells. Has a strong anti inflammatory response. Also relieves pain. I feed it and do either Adequan or Polyglcan every two weeks. I also do not feed processed feeds. I feed Renew Gold and Alfalfa Hay.
I thought stem cells had to be injected. Can you explain how this feed through works?
Equine Regen Plus uses the patent pending formula and science derived from the PrimiCell stem cell formula created for human consumption. In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, human, clinical trial of PrimiCell human participants were shown to have an increase in circulating, primwere told e stem cells of 118% in two weeks and 268% in 28 days. PrimiCell was also shown to be a powerful antioxidant with anti-aging effects. Early stage in vivo studies showed PrimiCell to have inhibitory effects on the growth of undesired cells, including cells A549, SGC-7901, HY-29 and PC-3. More studies are currently underway.
It basically jump starts the horses own stem cells. They heal quicker. Bleeders no longer need Lasix. Just ask Tana Popino and Taylor Langdon. Navicular horses are able to be competed and are winning that owners were told that they would be pasture ornaments. .
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| readytorodeo - 2016-03-25 1:28 AM
GLP - 2016-03-24 9:43 PM
readytorodeo - 2016-03-24 9:02 PM
I would do the Adequan. I think feed throughs are a waste of money. Equine Regen would be another thing you could try. It jump starts the stem cells. Has a strong anti inflammatory response. Also relieves pain. I feed it and do either Adequan or Polyglcan every two weeks. I also do not feed processed feeds. I feed Renew Gold and Alfalfa Hay.
I thought stem cells had to be injected. Can you explain how this feed through works?
Equine Regen Plus uses the patent pending formula and science derived from the PrimiCell stem cell formula created for human consumption. In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, human, clinical trial of PrimiCell human participants were shown to have an increase in circulating, primwere told e stem cells of 118% in two weeks and 268% in 28 days. PrimiCell was also shown to be a powerful antioxidant with anti-aging effects. Early stage in vivo studies showed PrimiCell to have inhibitory effects on the growth of undesired cells, including cells A549, SGC-7901, HY-29 and PC-3. More studies are currently underway.
It basically jump starts the horses own stem cells. They heal quicker. Bleeders no longer need Lasix. Just ask Tana Popino and Taylor Langdon. Navicular horses are able to be competed and are winning that owners were told that they would be pasture ornaments. .
I would like to try it but I can't swing that price! I thought Cur Ost was expensive! But thank you for explaining it to me. It is certainly something to think about. |
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| I know I about had a heart attack when I ordered it. But it was worth it. My horse is sound and has set two arena records since starting it. It is a hole lot cheaper than some of the other alternatives. And horses usually do not have to stay on it. |
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| GLP - 2016-03-25 8:11 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-03-25 1:28 AM
GLP - 2016-03-24 9:43 PM
readytorodeo - 2016-03-24 9:02 PM
I would do the Adequan. I think feed throughs are a waste of money. Equine Regen would be another thing you could try. It jump starts the stem cells. Has a strong anti inflammatory response. Also relieves pain. I feed it and do either Adequan or Polyglcan every two weeks. I also do not feed processed feeds. I feed Renew Gold and Alfalfa Hay.
I thought stem cells had to be injected. Can you explain how this feed through works?
Equine Regen Plus uses the patent pending formula and science derived from the PrimiCell stem cell formula created for human consumption. In a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, human, clinical trial of PrimiCell human participants were shown to have an increase in circulating, primwere told e stem cells of 118% in two weeks and 268% in 28 days. PrimiCell was also shown to be a powerful antioxidant with anti-aging effects. Early stage in vivo studies showed PrimiCell to have inhibitory effects on the growth of undesired cells, including cells A549, SGC-7901, HY-29 and PC-3. More studies are currently underway.
It basically jump starts the horses own stem cells. They heal quicker. Bleeders no longer need Lasix. Just ask Tana Popino and Taylor Langdon. Navicular horses are able to be competed and are winning that owners were told that they would be pasture ornaments. .
I would like to try it but I can't swing that price! I thought Cur Ost was expensive! But thank you for explaining it to me. It is certainly something to think about.
You might also look into Forefront. It is a whole lot cheaper than Curost. And I think their products are comparable. I think Flitastic is using some of their products. |
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