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Location: MN | Tdove - 2016-04-20 11:07 AM
finbin - 2016-04-20 10:47 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 9:02 AM
finbin - 2016-04-20 8:57 AM
I do not believe God intended horses to eat oats. FORCO, rice bran (renew gold), and oats are not "natural" to the horses' digestive system. There are feeds on the market that utilize the same things you are adding separately. Horses are designed as grazers but our graze doesn't have the fortification necessary of our performance horses therefore we need to add in vitamins/minerals and calories from other sources. I'm not saying your program is wrong just clarifying what the horse is designed to digest.
Oats are the most natural grain to feed. I don't understand your comment that horses were not meant to eat oats? Ultimate, Safe Choice feeds are processed feeds. Renew gold can be fed by itself.
Oats are a natural grain: yes, but, grains are not natural to the digestive system of the horse. That's the only point I was trying to make. Oats are simply calories; they do not have any other nutritional content except starch and some indigestible fiber. The equine digestive system was designed to process forages, not grains. In order to avoid digestive upset and still add calories; fermentable fibers and fats are the way to go albeit still not necessarily 'natural' but more in line with how a horse digests feedstuffs. Of course you can feed Renew by itself, you'll just be short changing your horse the vitamins and minerals he needs. I'm just saying the Renew is not a balanced source of vitamins and minerals.
Oats have quite a bit of nutrients and wild horses have been grazing on them for eons...
They may contain these nutrients, but are they in a balance and are they bioavailable? I don't see anything about calcium. Calcium and phosphorus need to be in a balanced ratio or the horse will pull calcium out of the bones to balance the high level of phosphorus. |
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Location: West Texas | That is why God created alfalfa. There is no single food better for your horse than alfalfa, and oats are the perfect complement to it. Yes, nutrition in oats are extremely bioavailable. |
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| I don't feed renew gold,but it is recommended that you feed Alfalfa with it. It is a forage based feed program. People who feed oats will usually add a vitamen mineral supplement . It is best to get away from processed feeds.
Stay simple in what you feed and your horses are healthier. Something like a oat, 1/4 alfalfa and 1/4 corn. Add a supplement like Vitalize High Performance. I prefer Kool Speed Plus with Vitalize High Performance and Equine Regen. I add Polyglycan and OE Flex for joints. My horse has never looked or felt better.
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Location: TEXAS | readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 11:29 AM
I don't feed renew gold,but it is recommended that you feed Alfalfa with it. It is a forage based feed program. People who feed oats will usually add a vitamen mineral supplement . It is best to get away from processed feeds.
Stay simple in what you feed and your horses are healthier. Something like a oat, 1/4 alfalfa and 1/4 corn. Add a supplement like Vitalize High Performance. I prefer Kool Speed Plus with Vitalize High Performance and Equine Regen. I add Polyglycan and OE Flex for joints. My horse has never looked or felt better.
How is feeding oats, corn, and alfalfa different from feeding Kool Speed....serious question, probably dumb one  |
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| slacy09 - 2016-04-20 11:49 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 11:29 AM
I don't feed renew gold,but it is recommended that you feed Alfalfa with it. It is a forage based feed program. People who feed oats will usually add a vitamen mineral supplement . It is best to get away from processed feeds.
Stay simple in what you feed and your horses are healthier. Something like a oat, 1/4 alfalfa and 1/4 corn. Add a supplement like Vitalize High Performance. I prefer Kool Speed Plus with Vitalize High Performance and Equine Regen. I add Polyglycan and OE Flex for joints. My horse has never looked or felt better.
How is feeding oats, corn, and alfalfa different from feeding Kool Speed....serious question, probably dumb one
The reason I feed Kool Speed Plus is the guaranteed low starch. I could mix.my own but wanted a locked formula so there wasn't any guessing on the starch. And Kool Speed Plus was cheaper than mixing my own
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Location: TEXAS | readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 12:38 PM
slacy09 - 2016-04-20 11:49 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 11:29 AM
I don't feed renew gold,but it is recommended that you feed Alfalfa with it. It is a forage based feed program. People who feed oats will usually add a vitamen mineral supplement . It is best to get away from processed feeds.
Stay simple in what you feed and your horses are healthier. Something like a oat, 1/4 alfalfa and 1/4 corn. Add a supplement like Vitalize High Performance. I prefer Kool Speed Plus with Vitalize High Performance and Equine Regen. I add Polyglycan and OE Flex for joints. My horse has never looked or felt better.
How is feeding oats, corn, and alfalfa different from feeding Kool Speed....serious question, probably dumb one
The reason I feed Kool Speed Plus is the guaranteed low starch. I could mix.my own but wanted a locked formula so there wasn't any guessing on the starch. And Kool Speed Plus was cheaper than mixing my own
Thank you....do you still feed alfalfa hay with it |
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| slacy09 - 2016-04-20 3:12 PM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 12:38 PM
slacy09 - 2016-04-20 11:49 AM
readytorodeo - 2016-04-20 11:29 AM
I don't feed renew gold,but it is recommended that you feed Alfalfa with it. It is a forage based feed program. People who feed oats will usually add a vitamen mineral supplement . It is best to get away from processed feeds.
Stay simple in what you feed and your horses are healthier. Something like a oat, 1/4 alfalfa and 1/4 corn. Add a supplement like Vitalize High Performance. I prefer Kool Speed Plus with Vitalize High Performance and Equine Regen. I add Polyglycan and OE Flex for joints. My horse has never looked or felt better.
How is feeding oats, corn, and alfalfa different from feeding Kool Speed....serious question, probably dumb one
The reason I feed Kool Speed Plus is the guaranteed low starch. I could mix.my own but wanted a locked formula so there wasn't any guessing on the starch. And Kool Speed Plus was cheaper than mixing my own
Thank you....do you still feed alfalfa hay with it
Yes. But only a flake. The rest is Timothy . |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I do not see an ingredients list on the Kool Speed or am I just missing it? Also another cool little tid bit I learned was to look for feed that the ingredients and analysis are listed on the bag itself and not on an attached tag as this indicates that the ingredients stay the same and are not adjusted from time to time with what is available.
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| run n rate - 2016-04-20 3:37 PM
I do not see an ingredients list on the Kool Speed or am I just missing it? Also another cool little tid bit I learned was to look for feed that the ingredients and analysis are listed on the bag itself and not on an attached tag as this indicates that the ingredients stay the same and are not adjusted from time to time with what is available.
Kool Speed is a locked formula. I spoke to the nutrionist . Ingredients on the sack aren't always the way to tell a locked formula. Bluebonnet uses tags. Kool speed plus has whole oats,alfalfa pellets,corn and roasted soy bean. There is also a fiber pellet. I love it . My horse was having hind gut ulcer issues. Started feeding Kool Speed Plus and Vitalize High Performance. Issues.gone. she was real irritable when touching right in front of flank. That is gone.
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Location: Midwest | I think there is more than one way to feed a horse that will work for you. Different programs work for different people.
I'll echo some others on here: horses were not designed to be ridden or competed on. They were not designed to eat grains or wear shoes.
I guess I'm trying to say I don't believe there is one "best" way to feed a horse. Different strokes for different folks. |
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Location: GODS country | Thanks for all the responses! |
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