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Posted 2016-05-02 10:15 PM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2016-05-02 10:31 PM People hate Trump because it's the reasonable thing to do. I can't believe there are actually people supporting this nut job- he should have been put in the loony bin long ago. The basic scoop: he's racist, he's sexist, he's hypocritical, he's hateful, he has NO political expertise, despite what he thinks he is NOT part of the working class but rather the financially elite. There's more- lists upon lists upon lists. He is the bane of everything America stands for and I cannot stress enough how incredibly terrible he is for the POTUS. People voting for Trump aren't voting for what's best for their country. He's not going to build us up, he'll bring us down. I get it, all these candidates are awful, but even (ick) Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders are much better alternatives. No comment on Clinton.
you lost crediblity when you typed Bernie.. 

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LP22654 - 2016-05-02 2:14 PM

Now what about Hillary Clinton? My personal take is she is crooked and the biggest liar on earth. You need to research what Bill did in Arkansas while he was Governor. She had her hands in it to. She has a mean streak in her that makes those KKK people look like Angels. Her e-mail scandal, Bengozi and that darn Clinton foundation, just to much for me. She is will finish destroying America if she is President. America is falling down and I hope God will have mercy on us! Lord help us!

Google "the Clinton Body count" - you will be shocked! I, for the life of me, can't understand why THAT B*TCH isn't in prison?? Obviously, she is above the law.
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Griz - 2016-05-03 3:20 AM
LP22654 - 2016-05-02 2:14 PM Now what about Hillary Clinton? My personal take is she is crooked and the biggest liar on earth. You need to research what Bill did in Arkansas while he was Governor. She had her hands in it to. She has a mean streak in her that makes those KKK people look like Angels. Her e-mail scandal, Bengozi and that darn Clinton foundation, just to much for me. She is will finish destroying America if she is President. America is falling down and I hope God will have mercy on us! Lord help us!
Google "the Clinton Body count" - you will be shocked! I, for the life of me, can't understand why THAT B*TCH isn't in prison?? Obviously, she is above the law.

^^^^ This, The body count following her is scary.  Sanders is a bafoon at best with no concept of basic economics (hence the socialist and sooner or later you run out of other peoples money) Then on the other side you have Cruz and Trump.  Cruz? I'm pretty on the fence so far,  Trump is saying what many people want to hear, I appreciate him calling out the liberal media.  But I can't help but wonder if somebody said "hey guess you can't be POTUS? HaHa"  and This is a Hold my Beer and Watch THIS moment, with an Oh **** I'm popular now what do I do?
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RockyMountainRacer - 2016-05-02 10:31 PM People hate Trump because it's the reasonable thing to do. I can't believe there are actually people supporting this nut job- he should have been put in the loony bin long ago. The basic scoop: he's racist, he's sexist, he's hypocritical, he's hateful, he has NO political expertise, despite what he thinks he is NOT part of the working class but rather the financially elite. There's more- lists upon lists upon lists. He is the bane of everything America stands for and I cannot stress enough how incredibly terrible he is for the POTUS. People voting for Trump aren't voting for what's best for their country. He's not going to build us up, he'll bring us down. I get it, all these candidates are awful, but even (ick) Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders are much better alternatives. No comment on Clinton.

Explain to me how a self proclaimed Socialist--Bernie Sanders is better then Trump ??? 
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"Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.
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Reg. Jul 2004
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Bear - 2016-05-03 8:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.

NOBODY appreciates anything that is "FREE". Do these kids that are loving the idea of FREE COLLEGE not understand that they would be the one eventually paying for it once the get into the working class----makes me want to beat my head against a wall.
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Posted 2016-05-03 8:14 AM
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RockyMountainRacer - 2016-05-02 10:31 PM People hate Trump because it's the reasonable thing to do. I can't believe there are actually people supporting this nut job- he should have been put in the loony bin long ago. The basic scoop: he's racist, he's sexist, he's hypocritical, he's hateful, he has NO political expertise, despite what he thinks he is NOT part of the working class but rather the financially elite. There's more- lists upon lists upon lists. He is the bane of everything America stands for and I cannot stress enough how incredibly terrible he is for the POTUS. People voting for Trump aren't voting for what's best for their country. He's not going to build us up, he'll bring us down. I get it, all these candidates are awful, but even (ick) Ted Cruz and Bernie Sanders are much better alternatives. No comment on Clinton.

Explain to me how a self proclaimed Socialist--Bernie Sanders is better then Trump ??? 

Same question? Not asking to be rude but because I genuinely don't understand what makes Bernie's socialist policies even remotely appealing? Bis economic policies are going to do nothing but absolutely cripple the middle class..
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Reg. Jul 2004
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Anyone supporting a liberal candidate is supporting open borders.  I hope you were watching Trump's rally where the families of U.S. citizens killed by illegals formed the background of his speech.  Kate Steinle was shot by an illegal on a San Francisco pier.  She was a beautiful 32 year old out walking with her dad.  The killer had been deported five times.  Bill O'Reilly quickly endeavored to encourage our lawmakers to create "Kate's Law" the idea being any criminal who is deported and comes back to the U.S. has to serve at least five years in prison.  Great idea stomped on by the ridiculous Harry Reid. 

You liberals have absolutely no idea how many of these people are coming here in droves everday.  They're coming by the busload up the Kansas turnpike headed for sanctuary communites and immediate welfare, food stamps and free medical.   Liberals see them only as future Democrats which is exactly what they will be.

And by the way liberals, did you know illegals are drawing our Social Security compliments of Obama's Dream Act.  Thanks Democrats.
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oija - 2016-05-02 2:48 PM Let's try again shall we. 40 Reasons Not To Vote For Donald Trump 1) Trump has favorability ratings that make him unelectable: The American public is very familiar with Donald Trump and people hate his guts. Trump’s current favorable/unfavorable rating is 34/58. Just as a point of comparison, the two biggest landslides in history were against Jimmy Carter (33/58) and Walter Mondale (34/40). Trump is so unpopular with the general electorate that we might as well be running Jared Fogle or Bill Cosby. 2) Trump consistently loses to Hillary Clinton in head-to-head polls: Given that so many people know Trump and already dislike him, it’s hard to understand why anyone thinks he’ll win in November. That’s especially true since the public already knows both him and Hillary Clinton well and he consistently loses to her in head-to-head match-ups.Hillary has 20 wins, 4 losses and 1 tie against Trump over the last 25 polls.Those numbers are more likely to get worse than get better. 3) Huge Republican defections are possible: Trump’s toxic, he’s not a conservative and he has personally insulted an enormous number of people on the Right. There will be more Republicans who won’t vote for him than for any other Republican nominee in recent history. In fact, it wouldn’t be a shock if there are significant numbers of prominent Republicans who back a third party candidate or otherwise try to deliberately undermine his campaign. CARTOONS | Steve Breen View Cartoon 4) He won’t be financially competitive in a general election: Hillary Clinton and the Super PACs supporting her will probably spend north of 2.5 billion dollars against Donald Trump. Trump has no Super Pacs and has made not taking money from big donors a centerpiece of his campaign. If you take away the value of his name, Trump would probably have to liquidate his entire fortune to compete financially with Hillary. Even if that were possible, which it’s not, Trump has been very reluctant to spend his money. He even admits that he doesn’t know how he’d fund his campaign in a general election. 5) Trump’s strategy is entirely dependent on the mainstream media: Liberals in the mainstream media have been giving Trump a free ride because they think he’ll be easy to beat in the general election. The day he becomes the nominee, they’ll turn on him just like they did with John McCain and he’ll face hostile treatment in every media venue. The moment that happens, Trump’s core campaign strategy will no longer work. 6) He makes gaffes: He’s the single most gaffe prone candidate in history. He says something dumb enough to end a normal candidate’s campaign every other week. Not only will his gaffes be used against him in a general election, he’ll regularly make more because that’s just what he does. Not only will that hurt his campaign for President, it will help wash out other GOP candidates who will regularly be forced to respond to the latest stupid thing he’s said. 7) He claimed George W. Bush lied about WMDS: Trump is indistinguishable from Michael Moore and Code Pink on the war in Iraq. Trump said Bush was the worst President in history, said he should have been impeached and claimed that he lied about WMDs to trick Americans into going to war. 8) He’s a conspiracy theorist: Before he started falsely claiming Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio weren’t eligible to be President, Trump was a birther who was publicly claiming Obama’s birth certificate was a fraud. 9) He’s way too comfy with the white supremacist movement: He has knowingly retweeted a white supremacist; by one count 62% of the people Trump retweets are white nationalists and there are now even white supremacist robocalls for Trump. It’s also not a shocker that David Duke is publicly supporting him by saying, “Voting against Donald Trump at this point, is really treason to your heritage.” 10)Trump’s spokeswoman Katrina Pierson has said some really kooky things: Pierson bemoaned the fact that America is too reluctant to use nuclear weapons when she said, “What good does it do to have a good nuclear triad if you’re afraid to use it?” She also tweeted out this creepy in an Aryan sort of way stupidity: “Perfect Obama's dad born in Africa, Mitt Romney's dad born in Mexico. Any pure breeds left?” She has also said the GOP is racist and has taken gratuitous swipes at Christians in general and Catholics in particular. There’s nobody you want as a nominee for anything who has someone like this as his spokesperson. 11) A man as thin skinned and vengeful as Trump can’t be trusted as President: Trump has written whole chapters of books that discuss how important it is to get revenge on people who cross him. If you trust a man who thinks like that with the FBI, DOJ, DHS, our military and the IRS, then you are either foolish or you just assume he won’t go after you and don’t care if he abuses his office to go after other people. 12) He’s a drama queen: One day he’s getting in a fight with Megyn Kelly; the next day he’s saying Carly Fiorina is ugly and the next thing you know, he has a back and forth going with the Pope. Trump’s like a five year old who will pull the cat’s tail, throw a ball through the window or curse in front of company as long it gets people looking at him. Good attention, bad attention, he doesn’t care. The same traits that make Donald Trump great on reality TV would make him temperamentally unfit to be President. 13) Trump is caught up in ongoing fraud trials over “Trump University:” There are two class action suits against Trump in California and the New York Attorney General has also filed suit against Trump over Trump University. One of the trials is scheduled to happen in August. So, right as the presidential campaign goes into full swing, the news will be full of stories about Trump and fraud. 14) Trump has extensive ties to the mob: According to a book written about him, “Throughout his adult life, Donald Trump has done business with major organized-crime figures and performed favors for their associates." 15) Trump was publicly supporting amnesty in 2013: Back when the gang of 8 amnesty bill was being discussed by Congress, Donald Trump who claims he’ll be tougher than anyone on illegal immigration was publicly calling for amnesty for illegal aliens. 16) Trump still supports citizenship for illegal aliens: Despite the fact that Trump is supposed to be tougher than anyone else on immigration, he’s in favor of rewarding many illegal aliens with American citizenship after they touch back in their home countries. 17) Trump doesn’t even make his OWN products in America: Trump claims he’s going to be tough on companies that move jobs overseas, but his own products are made in China and Mexico. Do people really think he’s going to crack down on his own businesses? 18) Trump’s country club in Florida rejects American workers for foreign labor: Donald Trump talks a good game about looking out for American workers, but in practice he has his products made overseas and he hires foreigners over Americans here in the states. Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., describes itself as “one of the most highly regarded private clubs in the world,” and it is not just the very-well-to-do who want to get in. Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired. In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries. 19) Trump loves Planned Parenthood:Although he claims to be pro-life, Donald Trump has repeatedly praised the baby-killing, baby-part-selling butchers at Planned Parenthood.After being criticized harshly for refusing to cut off funding for the organization, Trump now mixes praise of the organization with unbelievable claims that he will cut off its funding. Even Planned Parenthood doesn’t believe Trump will hurt them because the organization’s CEO Cecile Richards said she appreciated Trump’s“kind words.” 20) Trump can’t be trusted to pick a Supreme Court Justice: A non-conservative who has kind words for Planned Parenthood and who thought his radical, pro-abortion sister would make a great justice if she wasn’t related to him is not someone you want picking a replacement for Antonin Scalia. 21) Donald Trump is largely indistinguishable from Bernie Sanders on health care: If Trump were to somehow become President, Republicans would have to root for Obamacare to stay in place because what Trump wants to do is worse. Trump has been advocating government-controlled single payer health care for over 15 years. Trump is so ignorant about health care that he’s unable to discuss the subject intelligently, but even as he denies that he still wants single payer health care, he says that everyone is going to be covered and the government will pay for it. If you thought there couldn’t possibly be a bigger liar on health care than Barack Obama, then meet Donald Trump. 22) Eminent domain: Not only is Donald Trump in favor of having the government use the power of eminent domain to take property from private owners so it can be given to fatcats like him, he tried to use eminent domain to take a widow’s home away from her so it could be used as a limo parking lot. If you think Donald Trump is for the little guy, you’re a sucker. 23) Trump is making it clear he will undermine Israel: Here’s Trump on the conflict between the pro-American Israelis and the anti-American, genocidal, pro-terrorist Palestinians, "I don't want to get into it for a different reason, Joe, because if I do win, there has to be a certain amount of surprise, unpredictability. Let me be sort of a neutral guy, let's see what -- I'm going to give it a shot. It would be so great." Since when do conservatives back a President who doesn’t support Israel? 24) Trump isn’t a conservative and has no consistent ideological values: Trump has switched political parties 5 times in his life, was endorsing Democrats three years ago and his positions on the issues sometimes change week to week. 25) Trump was endorsing Democrats just three years ago: Michael Bloomberg is the foremost advocate of gun control in the United States and Bill De Blasio is an open Marxist. Yet, here’s what Trump was saying about them three years ago. "(Michael Bloomberg is) a friend of mine. He's been anexcellent mayor of New York City. He's a great guy and he means very well." (2013) “I think pretty strongly that(Bill de Blasio will) end up being a good mayor, maybe a very good mayorand I don’t think he’s going to want to kill the golden goose. ...I think he’s a smart guy that knows what’s going on really big league and I think he is not going to want to destroy New York. I think he is going to want to make New York great.” (2013) 26) He’s a Clinton Foundation donor: As was noted in the debate on Thursday night, it would be hard for Trump to make an issue of all the sleazy things that the Clinton Foundation was doing when he was one of its donors. 27) Trump has publicly talked about how wonderful Hillary Clinton is on multiple occasions: "(Hillary Clinton is) very talented, very smart.She's a friend of mine, so I'm a little prejudiced." (2007) “Hillary’s always surrounded herself with very good people. I think Hillary would do a good job.” "I know Hillary andI think she’d make a great president or vice-president." – 2008 Not only would these quotes help Hillary in an election, Trump’s shtick is always that he may have no idea what he’s talking about, but he’ll choose good people. Like Hillary? 28) He has the thumbs up from Jimmy Carter: “I think I would choose Trump, which may surprise some of you. The reason is, Trump has proven already he’s completely malleable. I don’t think he has any fixed (positions) he’d go the White House and fight for. On the other hand, Ted Cruz is not malleable. He has far-right wing policies he’d pursue if he became president.” – Jimmy Carter on whom he’d like to see as the Republican nominee 29) Donald Trump has been a big supporter of the Democrat Party: Among the many, manyDemocrats Donald Trump has donated to are Hillary Clinton, Rahm Emanuel, Anthony Weiner, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and Walter Mondale. Trump even donated the maximum to Jimmy Carter when he ran against Ronald Reagan. 30) He doesn’t know anything about policy: I don’t know if it’s because he’s lazy, not interested in policy or just because he’s old and has difficulty learning new things, but Trump doesn’t know anything more than the most basic facts about any issue. He literally does not understand immigration, healthcare or foreign policy on anything more than the most superficial level. Trump would never hire a guy who doesn’t know what he is talking about to run one of his construction sites; so why should Americans hire a guy who’s completely ignorant of policy to be President? 31) Trump is a too old to be running for President: If he somehow wins, Donald Trump will be 70 years old when he takes office. That would make him the oldest man ever to be elected to the White House for the first time. 32) Trump has many failed business ventures: Trump gives people the impression that he always wins. Certainly he has had a lot of success, but he also failed over and over again in ventures he knows little about just like he will if he’s the GOP’s nominee. It will be one more failed business venture like Trump steaks, Trump Vodka, Trump the Game, Trump Magazine, Trump Mortgage, Trump Airlines, Trump University, Trump Casinos and the New Jersey Generals. 33) Trump mocked prisoners of war: I don’t much care for John McCain, but Trump didn’t just insult McCain, he mocked every American prisoner of war when he said,“(John McCain is) not a war hero…. He’s a war hero because he was captured.I like people that weren’t captured.” There were a lot of American war heroes who served honorably and were captured. They shouldn’t be laughed at by a man who never even served in the military. 34) Donald Trump makes fun of the handicapped: What sort of man mocks people for being handicapped? Trump has done it at least twice. He made fun of Charles Krauthammer, who’s paralyzed, by saying, "I get called by a guy thatcan't buy a pair of pants, I get called names?" Trump also mocked the appearance of a New York Times reporter with a congenital joint condition. You’d be ashamed of your own child if he behaved this way; so how can you vote for a man like this? 35) Donald Trump would be the first President to have made money off of a strip club: Are you really going to be proud to tell your kids that you’re backing a guy who made money off of casinos and a strip club for President? 36) Trump cheated on his wife: Not only did cheat Trump on his wife, he BRAGGED about sleeping with married women in one of his books. 37) He’s made creepy comments about dating his daughter: Sorry, but this is just a gross, weird and completely inappropriate comment to make about your own child, “I don’t think Ivanka would do that [pose for Playboy], although she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.” Incidentally, he’s said things like this more than once. 38) Trump’s a phony Christian: There’s no such thing as an unrepentant adulterer who doesn’t ask God for forgiveness who also happens to be a Christian. Trump is so unfamiliar with the church that he doesn’t even know what an offering plate looks like. 39) Trump is a misogynist: Not only has Donald Trump said a lot of gross things about women in general, he also said, “You know, it really doesn’t matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass.” Hillary is going to accuse whoever the Republican nominee is of being sexist. If Trump’s the nominee, it will be true. 40) Last but not least, Trump’s an even more perfect example of narcissistic personality disorder than Barack Obama: I’ll just leave this description here so you can make your own judgment. An all-pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration or adulation and lack of empathy, usually beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts. Five (or more) of the following criteria must be met: Feels grandiose and self-important (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents to the point of lying, demands to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) Is obsessed with fantasies of unlimited success, fame, fearsome power or omnipotence, unequalled brilliance (the cerebral narcissist), bodily beauty or sexual performance (the somatic narcissist), or ideal, everlasting, all-conquering love or passion Firmly convinced that he or she is unique and, being special, can only be understood by, should only be treated by, or associate with, other special or unique, or high-status people (or institutions) Requires excessive admiration, adulation, attention and affirmation - or, failing that, wishes to be feared and to be notorious (narcissistic supply) Feels entitled. Expects unreasonable or special and favorable priority treatment. Demands automatic and full compliance with his or her expectations Is "interpersonally exploitative", i.e., uses others to achieve his or her own ends Devoid of empathy. Is unable or unwilling to identify with or acknowledge the feelings and needs of others Constantly envious of others or believes that they feel the same about him or her Arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes coupled with rage when frustrated, contradicted, or confronted

where did you copy and  paste that from Cruz.. and the highlighted part is bullcrap .. he said it at the debate.. and for you to spew that is wrong.. shameful ..  and some others on your list is downright lies to.. good grief.. why not research and find out .

Bibliafarm. This is a copy/paste sure enough. The link to the Townhall article is on the first page. The OP was asking why people do not want to vote for Trump. This article summed up a lot of reasons people say. And yet nobody bothered to look at it so I just moved the whole thing over. It answers the OPs question. If the OP didn't want anyone to offer an answer, they should not have posted. IMO, when one asks a question like this it should not be simply to confirm one's existing opinion but to critically think about all perspectives. You and anyone else on the board have the right to agree or disagree with it. If you have an issue with the article, please do comment on the original townhall post. Attacking me will hardly serve you in that regard as I did not write it and never claimed to. Nonetheless the article has spurred some useful debate and hopefully got people thinking. I was just answering the OPs question with the research I did do. The original article is also fully hyperlinked with the author's research. You may feel free to explore it more at your own leisure too. Please feel free to google "why you shouldn't vote for Trump" and see what you come up with. There are plenty of reasons good thoughtful people refuse to vote for him. This is only one list of reasons.
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Bear - 2016-05-03 7:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.

The state of TN already offers free college to high school graduates. And I think the state of Oregon is going to start a program. I would really like to hear from any BBs in TN about how the program is working in their state?  
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NJJ - 2016-05-03 10:03 AM
Bear - 2016-05-03 7:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.
The state of TN already offers free college to high school graduates. And I think the state of Oregon is going to start a program. I would really like to hear from any BBs in TN about how the program is working in their state?  

You know the Age Old Saying right ???? Nothing is FREE.
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I also feel the media helps to elect whom they want to be president.  My thinking is the polls:  Polls showing the Trump can't beat Hillary - I think the people are speaking and the media is scared.  Trumps number and the people that have came out to vote is impressive.

I like the fact that he is not polictically correct, he is blunt, and I feel we need a shake up at the old White House.
 
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oija - 2016-05-03 8:43 AM
Bibliafarm - 2016-05-02 9:13 PM
oija - 2016-05-02 2:48 PML. 19) Trump loves Planned Parenthood:Although he claims to be pro-life, Donald Trump has repeatedly praised the baby-killing, baby-part-selling butchers at Planned Parenthood.After being criticized harshly for refusing to cut off funding for the organization, Trump now mixes praise of the organization with unbelievable claims that he will cut off its funding. Even Planned Parenthood doesn’t believe Trump will hurt them because the organization’s CEO Cecile Richards said she appreciated Trump’s“kind words.”
where did you copy and  paste that from Cruz.. and the highlighted part is bullcrap .. he said it at the debate.. and for you to spew that is wrong.. shameful ..  and some others on your list is downright lies to.. good grief.. why not research and find out .
Bibliafarm. This is a copy/paste sure enough. The link to the Townhall article is on the first page. The OP was asking why people do not want to vote for Trump. This article summed up a lot of reasons people say. And yet nobody bothered to look at it so I just moved the whole thing over. It answers the OPs question. If the OP didn't want anyone to offer an answer, they should not have posted. IMO, when one asks a question like this it should not be simply to confirm one's existing opinion but to critically think about all perspectives. You and anyone else on the board have the right to agree or disagree with it. If you have an issue with the article, please do comment on the original townhall post. Attacking me will hardly serve you in that regard as I did not write it and never claimed to. Nonetheless the article has spurred some useful debate and hopefully got people thinking. I was just answering the OPs question with the research I did do. The original article is also fully hyperlinked with the author's research. You may feel free to explore it more at your own leisure too. Please feel free to google "why you shouldn't vote for Trump" and see what you come up with. There are plenty of reasons good thoughtful people refuse to vote for him. This is only one list of reasons.
It is really hard to believe that Trump is pro-life when he DOES support Planned Parenthood and when he stated that his sister would make a phenomenal Supreme Court Judge…His sister is one of the most extreme PRO abortion Judges in the nation….After he said that and the media jumped on him, he stated that he was just joking….what? joking that he was pro-life….joking that his sister would make a good judge…..What else has he said that he was JUST joking? Was he joking about dating his daughter; joking about making obscene gestures about a disabled man; making jokes about a woman’s menstrual cycles and a woman’s face; was he joking about never even reading the Constitution; was he joking about the size of his PENIS; was he joking about questioning Romney’s faith…..EVERY time, he gets blow back from any of his idiotic, rude, stupid comments (unbecoming a President)….he says “I was just joking”….. His whole campaign has been a joke or should I say....HE treats his campaign like a joke and hopes that you will swallow it !  

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Bear - 2016-05-03 7:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.
The state of TN already offers free college to high school graduates. And I think the state of Oregon is going to start a program. I would really like to hear from any BBs in TN about how the program is working in their state?  
You know the Age Old Saying right ???? Nothing is FREE.

That's WHY I asked for input from TN BBs....did their taxes go up...how was this financed? If money was taken from some other program to pay for it....GOOD! There are a LOT of worthless programs out there that could be dropped......I don't see a problem with trying to educate our youth!  (Not a Bernie Sanders supporter)
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NJJ - 2016-05-03 10:43 AM
Mighty Broke - 2016-05-03 9:11 AM
NJJ - 2016-05-03 10:03 AM
Bear - 2016-05-03 7:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.
The state of TN already offers free college to high school graduates. And I think the state of Oregon is going to start a program. I would really like to hear from any BBs in TN about how the program is working in their state?  
You know the Age Old Saying right ???? Nothing is FREE.
That's WHY I asked for input from TN BBs....did their taxes go up...how was this financed? If money was taken from some other program to pay for it....GOOD! There are a LOT of worthless programs out there that could be dropped......I don't see a problem with trying to educate our youth!  (Not a Bernie Sanders supporter)

Good Points and I actually agree with Bernie that it is ridiculous for a college t be this expensive---it is out of hand but I do not agree with his solutions.
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NJJ - 2016-05-03 9:43 AM

Mighty Broke - 2016-05-03 9:11 AM
NJJ - 2016-05-03 10:03 AM
Bear - 2016-05-03 7:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.
The state of TN already offers free college to high school graduates. And I think the state of Oregon is going to start a program. I would really like to hear from any BBs in TN about how the program is working in their state?  
You know the Age Old Saying right ???? Nothing is FREE.

That's WHY I asked for input from TN BBs....did their taxes go up...how was this financed? If money was taken from some other program to pay for it....GOOD! There are a LOT of worthless programs out there that could be dropped......I don't see a problem with trying to educate our youth!  (Not a Bernie Sanders supporter)

That's old news, and not even remotely close to what Bernie Sanders is proposing.
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The college system is going to implode itself. No institution can keep all the tenured teachers on full pay (teaching 3-6 hours, if any) while having to hire other full-time teachers to teach the rest of their classes. It can't work. Hence the outrageous tuition. Now, when graduates don't get jobs and have high tuition, college may be out the window. Technical school may be the ticket.

Can you imagine tuition prices if the government pays for students to go? Colleges are not run by top business people.

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Trump is winning in spite of a good many things he has said and done in the past and in spite of his many politically incorrect remarks that made nearly everyone cringe. You have to ask yourselves why.
He's defeated every one of the 17 candidates the GOP has thrown at him, and he has blown them all away handily. Why? When this started last summer people were giddy at all the talented people running. Trump was just a funny little side show at the time.
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NJJ - 2016-05-03 10:03 AM
Bear - 2016-05-03 7:49 AM "Free" college education for everyone. That alone should tell anyone all they need to know about the Progressive movement. We already have an avenue available for free college education. It's called the "GI Bill". The last thing we need is "free college". Most college kids nowadays can't seem to get a four year degree in 4 years the way it is. Many stretch it out to 5-6 years, even more. If we start giving away free college, watch what happens. You'll see even more 25, 26, 27 year olds still going to college for 4 year degrees in anthropology and archeology.
The state of TN already offers free college to high school graduates. And I think the state of Oregon is going to start a program. I would really like to hear from any BBs in TN about how the program is working in their state?  

GA does too.  You just have to maintain a 3.0 in high school.  ANd, acutally now you can get college credits when you are in high school.  Just pass your classes.  Strange concept to work for something, isn't it? 
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Nevertooold - 2016-05-02 8:52 PM

Rolling J - 2016-05-02 8:30 PM Thanks Nevertoold for all the info. Now just have to find time to read it all. Love BHW...always learning something

People keep saying he doesn't have any plans, well he does and there is no way he would have time on TV to go down and list all of this info and most people really don't care anyway..
Obama got elected because he was black and tried to act cool..LOL

 

I agree 100%. I half joke the first person I hear say "I am voting for Hillary because she is a woman" I going be in the county jail for slapping the sh** out of them

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