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| To be honest, when I first began feeding them, my horses (who are all hogs) all left some in their buckets, but I was feeding too much. What was leftover was always cleaned up by dinner time. Now that the grass is green and plentiful, I'm not feeding much at all. Love not feeding processed concentrate anymore! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rachellyn80 - 2016-06-08 3:18 PM
I love to support locally grown and American made products...but locally milled feed cost me more than just money and the most recent case of blister beetle poisoning is traced back to Colorado grown alfalfa.
I've been following that! It's awful. You expect Colorado to be dry and safe, but that's obviously not always the case. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Three 4 Luck - 2016-06-08 4:25 PM rachellyn80 - 2016-06-08 3:18 PM I love to support locally grown and American made products...but locally milled feed cost me more than just money and the most recent case of blister beetle poisoning is traced back to Colorado grown alfalfa. I've been following that! It's awful. You expect Colorado to be dry and safe, but that's obviously not always the case.
So far the one people have lost 2, as of this morning. And there have been 7 total from different farms in our area. Sad. |
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| Tdove - 2016-06-08 3:36 PM
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Tdove - 2016-06-08 3:36 PM
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Location: West Texas | classicpotatochip - 2016-06-08 3:41 PM
Tdove - 2016-06-08 3:36 PM
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Pretty clear.
The tag is clear, the marketing is not, as it is the only mention of "hay" in marketing. Also, field cubers are obsolete and not in use today. Almost all cubing companies locate their stationary cuber at or very near the hay fields. "All" also cube hay. Both cubes are quality products (I have never said otherwise) but the same, they are absolutely not.
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Location: Willows, CA | I guess I misspoke. I thought that there was also Flax in Omnis. Since you can't get them in California I don't pay as much attention as I should. I do have customers feeding both Renew Gold and Omnis and liking the result a lot. That would be a nice diet with coastal hay or pasture. I still think a video would be a good sales tool for the cubes if mixing ingredients happens in the field. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | winwillows - 2016-06-08 5:32 PM I guess I misspoke. I thought that there was also Flax in Omnis. Since you can't get them in California I don't pay as much attention as I should. I do have customers feeding both Renew Gold and Omnis and liking the result a lot. That would be a nice diet with coastal hay or pasture. I still think a video would be a good sales tool for the cubes if mixing ingredients happens in the field.
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Tdove - 2016-06-08 4:51 PM classicpotatochip - 2016-06-08 3:41 PM Tdove - 2016-06-08 3:36 PM Feed Tag Pretty clear. The tag is clear, the marketing is not, as it is the only mention of "hay" in marketing. Also, field cubers are obsolete and not in use today. Almost all cubing companies locate their stationary cuber at or very near the hay fields. "All" also cube hay. Both cubes are quality products (I have never said otherwise ) but the same, they are absolutely not.
by the tags they are identical.
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| I decided to read this thread because I saw what rachellyn80 went through with her horses being poisoned by feed. I know she feeds Omni's and I know how great her horses look now. Omni's aren't available around here and I already have access to high quality alfalfa. I thought this thread could be a learning tool. While it was (to a certain extent), I was not expecting to find:
1) A person that has nothing better to do with their time than troll threads and point out every little thing they feel another poster has said that is wrong and needs correcting.
2) A person that likes to say things that on the surface look innocent. But they are actually being condescending and rude because they feel most posters on BHW are stupid and beneath them in the intelligence department.
It's actually sad that so many threads have these trends anymore. Neither of these cases add to the actual conversation. They just want to feel superior by showing us all up. Please note I used no names or gender references. You know what they say though about if a shoe fits. |
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| 1DSoon - 2016-06-08 7:30 PM
Tdove - 2016-06-08 4:51 PM classicpotatochip - 2016-06-08 3:41 PM Tdove - 2016-06-08 3:36 PM Feed Tag Pretty clear. The tag is clear, the marketing is not, as it is the only mention of "hay" in marketing. Also, field cubers are obsolete and not in use today. Almost all cubing companies locate their stationary cuber at or very near the hay fields. "All" also cube hay. Both cubes are quality products (I have never said otherwise ) but the same, they are absolutely not.
I think Tdove was indicating that Omnis and HayRite are different, not Standlee and HayRite. Standlee and HayRite are the same I think, though Standlee is mainly Idaho based and HayRite Utah based.
I'm on my computer rather than posting from my phone, so I'll go into more detail. If you read to the end, you can get yourself a cookie.
To my understanding, Omnis has whole oats and flax seed mixed in with cubes made from baled hay. (I think it's baled on my experience of all the shredded and cubed hay twines, not sure why someone indicated that my information isn't correct)
HayRite's representative on the phone at the main number given said that their hay is cubed in the field, and is comprised of fresh alfalfa and oat hay.
I'm not sure if Standlee cubes in the field, or if they are using baled hay. I haven't ever come across hay twines in Standlee's cubes, so no experience there.
I've used Top of the Rockies cubes from Colorado, and fed whole oats and flax oil, to try to emulate Danco's percentages. My horses did great on that program, which I was using when I couldn't get HayRite or Omnis.
For convenience and because I didn't want to use Omnis, I chose HayRite.
I grew up in southwestern Wyoming, and we rarely need to feed horses grain there. Good alfalfa costs about $100 a ton, and it was free from Dad's field. I really like the alfalfa from that region, and have been pleased with my results from HayRite. Flavors of home, as it were.
Someone mentioned that hay cubing in the field is obsolete, well, for whom? I agree that the big companies obviously aren't using this method, it wouldn't be cost efficient, but there are machines out there for just this method. I have friends that dread hay chopping and cubing time.
Anyhow, Misty, to answer your question better, I wasn't happy with Omnis, and switched to HayRite.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-06-08 2:47 PM The analysis is darn near identical.
Seems same/same but that wouldn't fit the narrative
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | oats or oat hay
the analysis is the same, so the analysis is the same.
Just like others that are trying to sell shat to folks on this site Tdove and RG attempt to besmirch another product, either overtly or blatantly when in fact they are both pretty much the same product with a different color bag. |
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| Question for TDove: on a previous thread you stated eating cubes is better for their teeth/chewing/digestion than baled alfalfa. Why?? |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | rodeomom3 - 2016-06-09 7:57 AM
Question for TDove: on a previous thread you stated eating cubes is better for their teeth/chewing/digestion than baled alfalfa. Why??
because he doesn't sell hay
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | What's this business about twine in these various cubes?
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bear - 2016-06-09 9:20 AM What's this business about twine in these various cubes?
People have experienced pieces of twine in their cubes. I personally have in Canadian Cubes (in a white bag at Tractor Supply). I have not had them in my Standlee cubes which I use now. I use them because it is convenient even though it costs me $2/bag more.
I have no experience with Omnis cubes, other then a sample and the quality was great in it. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | 3canstorun - 2016-06-09 8:29 AM Bear - 2016-06-09 9:20 AM What's this business about twine in these various cubes? People have experienced pieces of twine in their cubes. I personally have in Canadian Cubes (in a white bag at Tractor Supply ). I have not had them in my Standlee cubes which I use now. I use them because it is convenient even though it costs me $2/bag more.
I have no experience with Omnis cubes, other then a sample and the quality was great in it.
I've seen twine in Standlee cubes. |
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Location: Texas | I just can't get on the cube bandwagon. If a horse eats his cube ration in < 2 hours, what is going on in the digestive system the other 10 hours or until the next feeding? Horses digestive systems were made to be grazers, eating small bites/amounts throughout the day/night. We all know how quickly ulcers can form with nothing in the stomach, and how quickly boredom vices can start. Yes, the horse is "full" after his cube meal, may even leave some cubes left over, but is this feeding method what is best for the overall digestive system? I would love to see a study done on what is happening in the digestive system on this type of feeding routine.  |
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