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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2016-06-12 10:32 PM
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have not heard yet but why are the links not working on here .. I had several to share but it wont allow it.:
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-06-12 10:42 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:32 PM have not heard yet but why are the links not working on here .. I had several to share but it wont allow it.:

Cant help you on the links, dont even know how to post links myself,  
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-06-12 10:50 PM
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komet. - 2016-06-12 11:47 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:18 PM Komet .. out governor has declared this a Terrorist attack.. another was heading to a gay event in Calif..

Florida is under state of emergency.

shooter had been investigated 3 times to having ties to ISIS and he also  shouted islam radical words .. to 911 operator before shooting.

he wasnt mad as his father said (to save his butt) .. he was  carrying out a terroristic attack..

we all need to stay alert because from what I read sleeper cells are awake.
ISIS claims responsibility for America's most deadly mass shooting: Terror group celebrates their New York-born 'fighter' Omar Mateen, 29, who died in Orlando gay club after killing 50



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html#ixzz4BQWy2iB6 

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also at a mosque days before.......htt/www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQps:/
Like I give a $hit what your governor says!! Like I give a $hit what our President says!!! Like I care what YOU say!!! I'll wait for the annalise of what they find on his phone and computer.. And even then... I can extrapolate for myself...

your so nice thanks.. just passing on information of how it is in florida.. I guess they just declare it then figure it out.. and yes you can do or say or feel how you want.. carry on.. 
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-06-12 10:53 PM
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I teach high school and also one period is my rodeo/old west class. I keep my branding iron by my door. Nobody is getting in my room. We had in service trainings on school shooting awareness after the sandy hook. Law enforcement provided it. They asked all of us if an intruder came into our room would any of us have a plan and what would we do. I told them I had an iron branding iron by my door and if anyone broke in I would be there and it would be the last classroom they went into. Other teachers were appalled that I could hurt someone if needed. Oh yes I could and if they would let me pack a gun I would sign up.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-06-12 10:55 PM
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komet. - 2016-06-12 10:47 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:18 PM Komet .. out governor has declared this a Terrorist attack.. another was heading to a gay event in Calif..

Florida is under state of emergency.

shooter had been investigated 3 times to having ties to ISIS and he also  shouted islam radical words .. to 911 operator before shooting.

he wasnt mad as his father said (to save his butt) .. he was  carrying out a terroristic attack..

we all need to stay alert because from what I read sleeper cells are awake.
ISIS claims responsibility for America's most deadly mass shooting: Terror group celebrates their New York-born 'fighter' Omar Mateen, 29, who died in Orlando gay club after killing 50



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html#ixzz4BQWy2iB6 

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also at a mosque days before.......htt/www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQps:/
Like I give a $hit what your governor says!! Like I give a $hit what our President says!!! Like I care what YOU say!!! I'll wait for the annalise of what they find on his phone and computer.. And even then... I can extrapolate for myself...

Komet why so rude? Bibs was just saying what she knows about the state she lives in, she was not saying anything rude at all. 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-06-12 10:58 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2016-06-12 10:53 PM I teach high school and also one period is my rodeo/old west class. I keep my branding iron by my door. Nobody is getting in my room. We had in service trainings on school shooting awareness after the sandy hook. Law enforcement provided it. They asked all of us if an intruder came into our room would any of us have a plan and what would we do. I told them I had an iron branding iron by my door and if anyone broke in I would be there and it would be the last classroom they went into. Other teachers were appalled that I could hurt someone if needed. Oh yes I could and if they would let me pack a gun I would sign up.

 
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2016-06-12 11:00 PM
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yes late to the party and just passing information along, no need to be rude .  
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2016-06-12 11:07 PM
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Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:50 PM

komet. - 2016-06-12 11:47 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:18 PM Komet .. out governor has declared this a Terrorist attack.. another was heading to a gay event in Calif..

Florida is under state of emergency.

shooter had been investigated 3 times to having ties to ISIS and he also Β shouted islam radical words .. to 911 operator before shooting.

he wasnt mad as his father said (to save his butt) .. he was Β carrying out a terroristic attack..

we all need to stay alert because from what I read sleeper cells are awake.
ISIS claims responsibility for America's most deadly mass shooting: Terror group celebrates their New York-born 'fighter' Omar Mateen, 29, who died in Orlando gay club after killing 50



Read more:Β http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html#ixzz4BQWy2iB6Β 

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also at a mosque days before.......htt/www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQps:/
Like I give a $hit what your governor says!! Like I give a $hit what our President says!!! Like I care what YOU say!!! I'll wait for the annalise of what they find on his phone and computer.. And even then... I can extrapolate for myself...

your so nice thanks.. just passing on information of how it is in florida.. I guess they just declare it then figure it out.. and yes you can do or say or feel how you want.. carry on..Β 

Well... you knew I was not a nice polite person before you decided to take me on in this thread... You already knew I threw out 'political correctness" 3 years ago... Now you act surprised??
People that scream racism make me laugh... I used to be a little 3 foot tall white kid in an all black school on the edge of Washington DC in the mid 1960s...
Short of lynching, there is nothing you can teach me about racism that I have not lived through...
Am I racist?? Yes.. I am.... Do I have cause to be that way? Yes, I do...
Fuwing nig$ers used to beat my a$$ every day I went to school... So I quit going to school... In the 4TH grade!! I would rather take the a$$ beating at home than take it from some ni##ar at school... Yes... I'm racist!!

Edited by komet. 2016-06-12 11:13 PM
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Bibliafarm
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Posted 2016-06-12 11:13 PM
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komet. - 2016-06-13 12:07 AM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:50 PM
komet. - 2016-06-12 11:47 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:18 PM Komet .. out governor has declared this a Terrorist attack.. another was heading to a gay event in Calif..

Florida is under state of emergency.

shooter had been investigated 3 times to having ties to ISIS and he also  shouted islam radical words .. to 911 operator before shooting.

he wasnt mad as his father said (to save his butt) .. he was  carrying out a terroristic attack..

we all need to stay alert because from what I read sleeper cells are awake.
ISIS claims responsibility for America's most deadly mass shooting: Terror group celebrates their New York-born 'fighter' Omar Mateen, 29, who died in Orlando gay club after killing 50



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html#ixzz4BQWy2iB6 

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also at a mosque days before.......htt/www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQps:/
Like I give a $hit what your governor says!! Like I give a $hit what our President says!!! Like I care what YOU say!!! I'll wait for the annalise of what they find on his phone and computer.. And even then... I can extrapolate for myself...
your so nice thanks.. just passing on information of how it is in florida.. I guess they just declare it then figure it out.. and yes you can do or say or feel how you want.. carry on.. 
Well... you knew I was not a nice polite person before you decided to take me on in this thread... You already knew I threw out 'political correctness" 3 years ago... Now you act surprised?? People that scream racism make me laugh... I used to be a little 3 foot tall white kid in an all black school on the edge of Washington DC in the mid 1960s... Short of lynching, there is nothing you can teach me about racism that I have not lived through... Am I racist?? Yes.. I am.... Do I have cause to be that way? Yes, I do...

take you on? I never intended to take you on to begin with.. i simply put your name on my post to answer some questions or let you know what is happening here..and what we have learned that is all.  anyway.. carry on.. 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2016-06-13 5:13 AM
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Leave him be.....he'll settle down. This happens from time to time.
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TrailGirl
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Posted 2016-06-13 7:31 AM
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Bear - 2016-06-13 5:13 AM

Leave him be.....he'll settle down. This happens from time to time.

Maybe so...but this is beyond unacceptable to circumvent the filters to use swear words and racial slurs repeatedly. Someone needs a time out.

On the topic at hand... It is terrorism. It is political in the name of a twisted sort of religious fervor. The leaders of this terror group make use of those unstable folks to accomplish their goals. Was this individual strongly religious or political? No idea...but he was malleable and willing to act? Yes...and That's all they needed.
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Posted 2016-06-13 7:55 AM
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Speedy Buckeye Girl
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Posted 2016-06-13 8:41 AM
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What I truly don't get is how this POS was on an ISIS watch list by the FBI and was investigated in 2013 and 2014 and yet this happens regardless.  Screw the watch list....it just needs to be called a DEPORT list and they need to send them out of here. 

So sad, prayers for all involved.  This one hit way too close to home for me.   
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Bear
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This business over the term "hate crime" has always confounded me.
Why the need for the redundancy? I mean when is murder not an act of hate? Oh wait....I forgot about abortion. That is a compassionate act.
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komet. - 2016-06-12 11:07 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:50 PM
komet. - 2016-06-12 11:47 PM
Bibliafarm - 2016-06-12 10:18 PM Komet .. out governor has declared this a Terrorist attack.. another was heading to a gay event in Calif..

Florida is under state of emergency.

shooter had been investigated 3 times to having ties to ISIS and he also  shouted islam radical words .. to 911 operator before shooting.

he wasnt mad as his father said (to save his butt) .. he was  carrying out a terroristic attack..

we all need to stay alert because from what I read sleeper cells are awake.
ISIS claims responsibility for America's most deadly mass shooting: Terror group celebrates their New York-born 'fighter' Omar Mateen, 29, who died in Orlando gay club after killing 50



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html#ixzz4BQWy2iB6 

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also at a mosque days before.......htt/www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBlwxqqAprQps:/
Like I give a $hit what your governor says!! Like I give a $hit what our President says!!! Like I care what YOU say!!! I'll wait for the annalise of what they find on his phone and computer.. And even then... I can extrapolate for myself...
your so nice thanks.. just passing on information of how it is in florida.. I guess they just declare it then figure it out.. and yes you can do or say or feel how you want.. carry on.. 
Well... you knew I was not a nice polite person before you decided to take me on in this thread... You already knew I threw out 'political correctness" 3 years ago... Now you act surprised?? People that scream racism make me laugh... I used to be a little 3 foot tall white kid in an all black school on the edge of Washington DC in the mid 1960s... Short of lynching, there is nothing you can teach me about racism that I have not lived through... Am I racist?? Yes.. I am.... Do I have cause to be that way? Yes, I do... Fuwing nig$ers used to beat my a$$ every day I went to school... So I quit going to school... In the 4TH grade!! I would rather take the a$$ beating at home than take it from some ni##ar at school... Yes... I'm racist!!

Komet, you make yourself clear.  But Barrel Horse World won't allow our forums to be used as a platform to further fuel a hateful and racist perspective that exists in our world.

 
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Posted 2016-06-13 9:03 AM
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I used to bartend for a corporate promotion.  Due to the sensitivity of the product this corporation sold, the event needed security.  The nicest men and women I've ever met where retired FBI agents and retired officers.  They were hired by this corporation and carried guns.   They were well trained, especially at keeping their  cool at all times.   
  During some of our conversations, it had been expressed to me over and over how much they enjoyed work after retirement from their agencies.  I don't understand why we can't utilize these men and women  to protect areas that  people would prefer to be a gun free zone.  Especially in the cases of schools, large events etc. 

 
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Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-12 9:26 AM  This is just horrible, What the He** is wrong with these sicko's, he murdered 50 young people in a nightclub that were having a goodtime, I just dont understand what is happening to our beautiful free country, just makes me so sick.. and so very sad. 

Prayers for these young people and their familys.. 

Everything I've heard says the guy that did it is a muslim extremist w/ possible ISIS involvement. There is no question why he did it. Not only do they hate America, they also hate and kill gays on the regular in some muslim countries. An American gay nightclub is a jackpot for them.
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FLITASTIC - 2016-06-12 11:53 PM I teach high school and also one period is my rodeo/old west class. I keep my branding iron by my door. Nobody is getting in my room. We had in service trainings on school shooting awareness after the sandy hook. Law enforcement provided it. They asked all of us if an intruder came into our room would any of us have a plan and what would we do. I told them I had an iron branding iron by my door and if anyone broke in I would be there and it would be the last classroom they went into. Other teachers were appalled that I could hurt someone if needed. Oh yes I could and if they would let me pack a gun I would sign up.

We received ALICE training by our local emergency management. It was a last minute 4 hour PD that our school district paid for. The emergency management guy said really it should be a 3 day PD (so it made it sound as if our district was looking for filler training and only wanted to pay for 4 hours). In ALICE training you are trained how to take down an active shooter and kids get involved also. They are supposed to take books and prepare to throw them, and kids are trained in active holds on how to pull a gun out of someones hand along with teachers. We were shown different ways to add secretive door blocks, how to stand and where ect.

After the 4 hour training session the guy in charge of our school emergency plan told us we will not be doing any of the above and we are to sit and wait. Nothing like receiving two contradictory statements on something so serious.

As for me, I am still going to figure out a secondary way to bolt my doors shut and come up with a way to get out the back window safely with the kids. No way am I not coming up with a game plan and no way are we just sitting there if we are ever put into the situation.

It was very eye opening as the trainer of the emergency management went through the statistics of all major shooting events in the US and they support a higher rate of survival if you fight back vs. sit and hide.

Although, I am not sure parents would be too keen on their kids receiving this type of training. Again....sitting ducks...not a fan of this.


Edited by magic gunsmoke 2016-06-13 10:02 AM
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Posted 2016-06-13 10:00 AM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2016-06-13 9:11 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-12 9:26 AM  This is just horrible, What the He** is wrong with these sicko's, he murdered 50 young people in a nightclub that were having a goodtime, I just dont understand what is happening to our beautiful free country, just makes me so sick.. and so very sad. 
Prayers for these young people and their familys.. 
... An American gay nightclub is a jackpot for them.
Yep.  I think you're going to see growth in organizations like this one:

pinkpistols.com

Their mott is:
"We teach queers to shoot.  Then we teach other that we have done so."

I hope the movement continues to grow.  I think it's the only way. 



 

Edited by TXBO 2016-06-13 10:04 AM
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-06-13 10:03 AM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2016-06-13 9:11 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-06-12 9:26 AM  This is just horrible, What the He** is wrong with these sicko's, he murdered 50 young people in a nightclub that were having a goodtime, I just dont understand what is happening to our beautiful free country, just makes me so sick.. and so very sad. 

Prayers for these young people and their familys.. 
Everything I've heard says the guy that did it is a muslim extremist w/ possible ISIS involvement. There is no question why he did it. Not only do they hate America, they also hate and kill gays on the regular in some muslim countries. An American gay nightclub is a jackpot for them.

Now I know why he targeted this nightclub, when all this was unfolding and it was all over the news yesterday morning nobody knew why it happen, but as the day worn on and they found out he was doing this for ISIS it all started coming out that this was a terrorist act.  
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