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Runforfun11
Reg. Jun 2016
Posted 2016-07-15 9:57 PM
Subject: RE: Triple Crown Feed Discontinued?


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willrodeo4food - 2016-07-15 3:21 PM

winwillows - 2016-07-06 10:49 AM Western Milling had a medicated feed recall last year for horse feed that they made. They may make Triple Crown in a different plant now, I don't know. The Western Milling plant is OH Kruse, and as far as I know, it has never been Ionophore free. A call to them may clear that up.

I would love to get an answer on this but have been unable to so far.  I love the Triple Crown 30 but I won't risk a feed processed in a facility that is not guaranteed ionophore free.

What I heard from someone who works there the contamination didn't happen at the mill it happened before, that plus the feed that was contaminated was crap feed
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-07-16 11:29 AM
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For those that feed the TC 30 do you feed it with anything else? It's a ration balancer? I tried the tc sr before and I liked it but I wasn't happy when I started finding corn in it and I had to keep the bags in my mud room because in the winter the bags would be rock hard. I'm wondering which feed would be the best for my horses. I prefer a dry small pellet
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tcnhorsefeed
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2016-07-27 7:56 AM
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Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale.

Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed
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FlyinByU
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2016-07-28 12:06 AM
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tcnhorsefeed - 2016-07-27 7:56 AM

@willrodeo4food and @Winwillows-

Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale.

Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed

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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-07-28 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Triple Crown Feed Discontinued?


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WYOracer - 2016-07-04 10:31 AM

IRunOnFaith - 2016-07-04 9:17 AM

Triple Crown has not been bought out or discontinued. Your feed store must not sell it any longer. They aren't going anywhere any time soon. 

Bluebonnet is now taking over milling Triple Crown as I understood my friend. Cargill is who I believe used to do it. A good friend of mine works for Blue Bonnet and told me about it a couple months ago.

Thank you I had heard this and wondered
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-07-29 8:54 AM
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FlyinByU - 2016-07-28 1:06 AM
tcnhorsefeed - 2016-07-27 7:56 AM @willrodeo4food and @Winwillows- Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale. Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed
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Sorry, same old song and dance - the ionophore products are still in the same plant.  And, the monensin test is just a test.  The FDA has no guidelines on the amounts that can be in the product.  So, while they may test it, doesn't mean it is good for the horse. 

The best bet would be the product that they say will be produced by Blue Bonnet, at their facility.  Not just a plant that has a "separate" line.   
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willrodeo4food
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2016-07-29 9:48 AM
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tcnhorsefeed - 2016-07-27 7:56 AM @willrodeo4food and @Winwillows- Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale. Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed
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Sorry, same old song and dance - the ionophore products are still in the same plant.  And, the monensin test is just a test.  The FDA has no guidelines on the amounts that can be in the product.  So, while they may test it, doesn't mean it is good for the horse. 

The best bet would be the product that they say will be produced by Blue Bonnet, at their facility.  Not just a plant that has a "separate" line.   

 I agree with this 100 percent. It's just not worth the risk for me.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-07-29 10:01 AM
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tcnhorsefeed - 2016-07-27 7:56 AM @willrodeo4food and @Winwillows- Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale. Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed
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Sorry, same old song and dance - the ionophore products are still in the same plant.  And, the monensin test is just a test.  The FDA has no guidelines on the amounts that can be in the product.  So, while they may test it, doesn't mean it is good for the horse. 

The best bet would be the product that they say will be produced by Blue Bonnet, at their facility.  Not just a plant that has a "separate" line.   

 I agree with this 100 percent. It's just not worth the risk for me.

If there's no chance the horse feed produced there will come into contact with ionophores, then why do they test it? I know the Triple Crown produced out here is milled by Blue Bonnet now so there is no risk at all.
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3canstorun
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-07-29 10:08 AM
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FlyinByU - 2016-07-28 1:06 AM
tcnhorsefeed - 2016-07-27 7:56 AM @willrodeo4food and @Winwillows- Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale. Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed
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Sorry, same old song and dance - the ionophore products are still in the same plant.  And, the monensin test is just a test.  The FDA has no guidelines on the amounts that can be in the product.  So, while they may test it, doesn't mean it is good for the horse. 



The best bet would be the product that they say will be produced by Blue Bonnet, at their facility.  Not just a plant that has a "separate" line.   
 I agree with this 100 percent. It's just not worth the risk for me.
If there's no chance the horse feed produced there will come into contact with ionophores, then why do they test it? I know the Triple Crown produced out here is milled by Blue Bonnet now so there is no risk at all.

Ding dong - you win -

Because there is a chance if it is in the same mill.  That is why I don't trust any of them that have it in the same facility.  Almost killed mine.   
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2016-07-29 1:05 PM
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While chances of contamination are small on a separate production line, they are not nonexistent if there are medications in the plant. Ingredient storage, and hand mix locations may not be as isolated. In addition, they don't take into consideration a disgruntled employee. I once had a guy that was just fired put a dead rat under the shrink wrap of a pallet of feed on his way out. Dropping a handful of something on the mill line on the way out is not that difficult if there is access to it. We will only manufacture where there is no medicated ingredients on the facility property, period. That is the only way to really know.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2016-07-29 4:41 PM
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FlyinByU - 2016-07-28 1:06 AM
tcnhorsefeed - 2016-07-27 7:56 AM @willrodeo4food and @Winwillows- Feedback we have from Western Milling- Western Milling has a dedicated “non-medicated or equine only” mixing system and separate ionophore free pelleting systems. At no time will any equine feed being made at their facility be exposed to an ionophore. To provide extra assurance for its customers, every lot of equine feed must pass a monensin medication test before it is released for sale. Jessica Drexler, Triple Crown Feed
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Sorry, same old song and dance - the ionophore products are still in the same plant.  And, the monensin test is just a test.  The FDA has no guidelines on the amounts that can be in the product.  So, while they may test it, doesn't mean it is good for the horse. 



The best bet would be the product that they say will be produced by Blue Bonnet, at their facility.  Not just a plant that has a "separate" line.   
 I agree with this 100 percent. It's just not worth the risk for me.
If there's no chance the horse feed produced there will come into contact with ionophores, then why do they test it? I know the Triple Crown produced out here is milled by Blue Bonnet now so there is no risk at all.

Ding dong - you win -

Because there is a chance if it is in the same mill.  That is why I don't trust any of them that have it in the same facility.  Almost killed mine.   

If you don't mind me asking, what do you feed now? I've been feeding purina and I did love and fed blue bonnet, but it just got too hard and expensive for me to feed. I've decided, just recently, to nix the processed feed... and have just been feeding some nice crimped oats and the best alfalfa hay I can get here.. and I'm wanting to incorporate the renew gold in again to finish it off.
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willrodeo4food
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2016-07-29 5:21 PM
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winwillows - 2016-07-29 11:05 AM

While chances of contamination are small on a separate production line, they are not nonexistent if there are medications in the plant. Ingredient storage, and hand mix locations may not be as isolated. In addition, they don't take into consideration a disgruntled employee. I once had a guy that was just fired put a dead rat under the shrink wrap of a pallet of feed on his way out. Dropping a handful of something on the mill line on the way out is not that difficult if there is access to it. We will only manufacture where there is no medicated ingredients on the facility property, period. That is the only way to really know.

Not only this but we are all human. Accidents happen, things get spilled or labels get mis-read. I might not be happy if the feed in my bag doesn't match the label because there's to much oat or corn or vitamin/mineral supplement in the mix but at least none if those things will kill my horse. 
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TBone
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-07-30 10:40 AM
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So how do I know where this bag of Triple Crown 30% came from?  Top of the tag has #170046, number in box on tag is #6147. 
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-07-30 10:44 AM
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TBone - 2016-07-30 10:40 AM So how do I know where this bag of Triple Crown 30% came from?  Top of the tag has #170046, number in box on tag is #6147. 

I would call the store where you bought it from and ask them. I would think it came from OK since Bluebonnet is milling it now. 
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Reg. Oct 2010
Posted 2016-07-30 1:26 PM
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I am in Montana and out TC is still milled in a shared mill so I won't risk it. I stopped feeding it over a year ago I got tiered of the feed being different every time we bought a bag and after talking to the feed store they are still having problems. We don't have many options here but I feed a more regional feed LMF it is milled in a safe /clean mill or I order Tribute feed from amazon. I had a terrible year with my horses already due to some issue with our hay so won't risk a feed that could be bad as well.
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willrodeo4food
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2016-08-06 3:37 PM
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2016-08-06 3:56 PM
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In the case of the Iowa trainer, ractopamine is NOT an ionophore yet the Triple Crown was still contaminated with it.
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2016-08-06 4:14 PM
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willrodeo4food - 2016-08-06 3:37 PM http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/burden-proof-iowa-trainer...
Wow, after reading this and if I were feeding Triple Crown I think I would be rethinking about feeding it, such a bad deal for the trainer, horses and owners. If I were feeding it I would be making darn sure it was coming from the Bluebonnet mill. 
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2016-08-06 7:52 PM
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willrodeo4food - 2016-08-06 3:37 PM http://www.paulickreport.com/news/the-biz/burden-proof-iowa-trainer...

I read this today, I think TC just keeps shooting  themselves in the  foot.  I use to use TC, but  they do not have enough quality control and its just not worth it to me, to take the chance of feeding it to my horses.. 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-08-07 11:44 AM
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I was thinking about buying Triple Crown Senior again. Well that lasted for a short 2 days. LOL

For those who didn't read the article...here is the bottom line. I sure hope Triple Crown is paying for all the expenses and inconvenience of this.


According to the stewards' ruling, “the contaminated feed was Triple Crown 14% Racing Performance feed produced at the Consumers Supply Distributing mill, located in North Sioux City, South Dakota. The mill has identified and confirmed, through independent testing, that the Triple Crown 14% Racing Performance feed Lot #20505624 is contaminated with ractopamine.”

Entered into evidence was a “letter from Consumers Supply Distributing in North Sioux City, South Dakota, taking full responsibility for the contaminated feed that was provided. The mill ran cattle feed supplemented with Optaflexx (ractopamine) prior to the production of the Triple Crown 14% Performance Racing feed Lot #20505624.”

The Triple Crown 14% Performance Racing Feed from lot #20505624 was then sold to trainer Kelly Von Hemel via Griff's Feed, a local feed supplier in Altoona, Iowa, the town in which Prairie Meadows is located.
 
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