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rpreast
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GLP - 2016-09-09 1:22 PM I watched several of the televised ERA rodeos and was not impressed, and it wasn't just the barrel racing either. Everybody looked rusty.

Adding to that as I was NOT impressed either.... the announcers and some of the facts that they were throwing out were SO wrong. They gave a calf roper (if I recall correctly) Jake Barnes' head injury story!  
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GLP - 2016-09-09 1:22 PM I watched several of the televised ERA rodeos and was not impressed, and it wasn't just the barrel racing either. Everybody looked rusty.

Adding to that as I was NOT impressed either.... the announcers and some of the facts that they were throwing out were SO wrong. They gave a calf roper (if I recall correctly) Jake Barnes' head injury story! Β 

I do agree with some of this stuff. They still have a picture of I believe Arson as Dillon under their athletes section.
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rpreast - 2016-09-09 2:28 PM

GLP - 2016-09-09 1:22 PM I watched several of the televised ERA rodeos and was not impressed, and it wasn't just the barrel racing either. Everybody looked rusty.

Adding to that as I was NOT impressed either.... the announcers and some of the facts that they were throwing out were SO wrong. They gave a calf roper (if I recall correctly) Jake Barnes' head injury story! Β 

Ah now, don't get me started on those announcers! I have never heard such terrible announcing and mixing up of information in my life. We used to put on youth and ammy rodeos and those announcers were way better than the ERA announcers!
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Cowjazz - 2016-09-09 11:31 AM It is NOT a D format according to what I heard. Doubt it ever would be as this is her way of replacing her rodeo income from the rodeos and the failing ERA. Just a way for her to pad her pockets with cash from her trusting "Sheep". After all they are dieing to watch her and Baby Flo!!!!  Oh, and as for her 1 second penalty for a dropped barrel? LOL she must be planning ahead on hitting a few, so she has made sure she covered that possibility in her favor.



 
Do you honestly think she needs her "rodeo income"? You spend as much as you make. I'm pretty sure her business ventures are lining her pockets and a couple of bank vaults by now. Whether you like her and her practices or not, you have to see that she is doing well in business

 her stores have amazing customer service too. she's definitely doing something right
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SKM - 2016-09-08 7:04 PM I do think it ironic that in 2016, Fallon hardly did any WPRA rodeos stating that she wanted to support the ERA, do clinics and not travel as much. Now that the WPRA has said that you can't be a stock holder or on the board of the ERA and compete in the WPRA, she is now telling people to call the WPRA and tell them what they think about her being banned from an association she has been a member of for 26 years. This year it was HER choice not to compete. Now that it's not her choice, she has a bit of an issue?
If I recall correctly, at the time she announced her decision that she evaluated how much money she had won to that date and it was her feeling that she had not won enough money to keep going to try to qualify as she would have to haul super hard and she didn't want to do that to her horse. So she was opting to focus on the ERA and clinics for the remainder of the 2016 year. She said she would try to qualify in 2017. I took this to mean that if she had more money won when she made here decision, she would have kept going.

this is what she posted early in the season after her surgery.  
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stayceem - 2016-09-09 2:53 PM Why do these posts always turn into a bashing, trash talking posts? The topic is ERA/WPRA...

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It is NOT a D format according to what I heard.Β Doubt it ever would be as this is her way of replacing her rodeo income from the rodeos and the failing ERA. Just aΒ way for her to pad her pockets with cash from her trusting "Sheep".Β After all they are dieingΒ to watch her and Baby Flo!!!!Β  Oh, and as for her 1 second penalty for a dropped barrel? LOL she must be planning ahead on hitting a few, so she has made sure she covered that possibility in her favor.

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Do you honestly think she needs her "rodeo income"? You spend as much as you make. I'm pretty sure her business ventures are lining her pockets and a couple of bank vaults by now. Whether you like her and her practices or not, you have to see that she is doing well in business

Wrapsnap you are so right. She recently had a clinic in Cheyenne wy. there were 30-40 participants in this one clinic at $500 a pop... It's not hard to figure out that she is making a killing putting on clinics. That's not even counting the 30+ that came to watch at $150 a person and all of the gifts that she receives
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...

This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.
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stayceem - 2016-09-09 1:53 PM

Why do these posts always turn into a bashing, trash talking posts?

The topic is ERA/WPRA...

Yea I was not bashing Fallon at all. The only reason I mentioned her name in the original post is bc she was the first person I heard mention it. Before then I hadn't heard anything at all about WPRA following prca.
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Posted 2016-09-09 4:57 PM
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...

This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.

Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.
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Posted 2016-09-09 7:02 PM
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...

This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.

Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.

Definitely a smart business decision. She had to expand her brand to stay relevant because her fan base is starting to grow into tweens, who may "outgrow" her. She is what we refer to in marketing as a trend. I don't see many adults buying her stuff save for their young girls, kinda like Brittney Spears.
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...

This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.

Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.

Seems like she's doing the "LA" thing again. She went and tried to be a model and do all that stuff before. Only difference is now she has way more groupies than in the late 90's. Known her since she was a little kid. Wasn't impressed when she was 7, still not.

As far as the ERA vs WPRA, it seems logical that they would follow suit with the PRCA. The ERA "built" itself off of the talent that went through and made names for themselves because of the PRCA (and WPRA).
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...
This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.
Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.
Seems like she's doing the "LA" thing again. She went and tried to be a model and do all that stuff before. Only difference is now she has way more groupies than in the late 90's. Known her since she was a little kid. Wasn't impressed when she was 7, still not. As far as the ERA vs WPRA, it seems logical that they would follow suit with the PRCA. The ERA "built" itself off of the talent that went through and made names for themselves because of the PRCA (and WPRA).

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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...

This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.

Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.

Seems like she's doing the "LA" thing again. She went and tried to be a model and do all that stuff before. Only difference is now she has way more groupies than in the late 90's. Known her since she was a little kid. Wasn't impressed when she was 7, still not.

As far as the ERA vs WPRA, it seems logical that they would follow suit with the PRCA. The ERA "built" itself off of the talent that went through and made names for themselves because of the PRCA (and WPRA).

that goes both ways. that talent also makes prca/wpra...
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...
This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.
Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.
Seems like she's doing the "LA" thing again. She went and tried to be a model and do all that stuff before. Only difference is now she has way more groupies than in the late 90's. Known her since she was a little kid. Wasn't impressed when she was 7, still not. As far as the ERA vs WPRA, it seems logical that they would follow suit with the PRCA. The ERA "built" itself off of the talent that went through and made names for themselves because of the PRCA (and WPRA).
that goes both ways. that talent also makes prca/wpra...

 No it doesnt. There were "super star's" before this bunch and there will be new "Super Star's" after. One goes by the way side and another moves up and takes their place.
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WrapSnap - 2016-09-09 9:10 AM I seriously think that y'all underestimate the power of her numbers of fans...
I know her fans are numerous, but how many squads would she need to pay out in the D format? But then again, she has many fans and they rabidly follow her. At 150 a squad, that's not a bad entry fee, but then any winnings have to be split with in the squad. I don't think her fans think that way though. They are just happy to be around her. Kinda like the Biebers, I guess. Heck, I am really to old to comment.
Not too old to comment, at all! You nailed it, exactly. Her fans go to her stuff like it's a concert and she markets it as such. Different auditing packages, including a "Back stage pass" package. Like she said live last night, this is a chance for her followers to run against their idols. It won't be about the entry fees, or the payout for those "squads" that enter...
This. I also don't think the jackpot money is what she is after, she is after the people coming to it to buy all of her products while there. She is brilliant at marketing and I haven't really seen her doing anything that she isn't two steps ahead on to make money somehow.
Saddles, tack, horses, eyelashes, make-up line, clinics and now a clothing line. Like her or not, she's definitely not limiting her income to rodeo winnings. I actually think it's pretty smart - business-wise anyway.
Seems like she's doing the "LA" thing again. She went and tried to be a model and do all that stuff before. Only difference is now she has way more groupies than in the late 90's. Known her since she was a little kid. Wasn't impressed when she was 7, still not. As far as the ERA vs WPRA, it seems logical that they would follow suit with the PRCA. The ERA "built" itself off of the talent that went through and made names for themselves because of the PRCA (and WPRA).
that goes both ways. that talent also makes prca/wpra...

Β No it doesnt. There were "super star's" before this bunch and there will be new "Super Star's" after. One goes by the way side and another moves up and takes their place.

there is more than one way to be a "super star." plenty of others who haven't set foot in a rodeo arena. and prca/wpra would be nothing without their athletes. if the talented ones leave, yes more talent will come up the ranks but if that talent still exists and runs in another organization, that creates competition for revenue.
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Β I was hoping the WPRA would just let it die on its own. But with the way many of the ERA were bad mouthing the PRCA and WPRA, I can't really blame them. I think it could have been a great thing but the ERA went about it wrong. I watched a couple and honestly it wasn't any different than watching any other rodeo. The PRCA rodeos I've been to haven't seemed to have been affected either.
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The PRCA/WPRA is full of talent. The rodeos haven't been affected at all by these "Elite" people not being there. Plenty of people have stepped it up.

For those not seeing the issue with shareholding and being on the board...let me see if I can explain it. You can't own Coca Cola and work for Pepsi. It's a conflict of interest and not in the best interest of the company you work for. The ERA went to all the big rodeos and tried to steal them from the PRCA. Cody, Dodge City, etc. They didn't want to start at ground zero like all new businesses do. They figured since that had the big names, those big rodeos should be handed to them too. Was the PRCA supposed to sit back and let that happen? All so a select few could have a bigger payday? Of course not. You CAN work for both companies. But you CAN'T own part of one and make decisions for it and expect to work in the other now.

In all honesty, the WPRA should have been standing with the PRCA all along. All those girls running ERA knew this would eventually happen. If they were surprised by it, then they obviously had their head in the sand.
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Cowjazz - 2016-09-09 11:31 AM It is NOT a D format according to what I heard. Doubt it ever would be as this is her way of replacing her rodeo income from the rodeos and the failing ERA. Just a way for her to pad her pockets with cash from her trusting "Sheep". After all they are dieing to watch her and Baby Flo!!!!  Oh, and as for her 1 second penalty for a dropped barrel? LOL she must be planning ahead on hitting a few, so she has made sure she covered that possibility in her favor.



 
Do you honestly think she needs her "rodeo income"? You spend as much as you make. I'm pretty sure her business ventures are lining her pockets and a couple of bank vaults by now. Whether you like her and her practices or not, you have to see that she is doing well in business
Wrapsnap you are so right. She recently had a clinic in Cheyenne wy. there were 30-40 participants in this one clinic at $500 a pop... It's not hard to figure out that she is making a killing putting on clinics. That's not even counting the 30+ that came to watch at $150 a person and all of the gifts that she receives

Seriously? People give her gifts? I sure don't get it..
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The PRCA/WPRA is full of talent. The rodeos haven't been affected at all by these "Elite" people not being there. Plenty of people have stepped it up.

For those not seeing the issue with shareholding and being on the board...let me see if I can explain it. You can't own Coca Cola and work for Pepsi. It's a conflict of interest and not in the best interest of the company you work for. The ERA went to all the big rodeos and tried to steal them from the PRCA. Cody, Dodge City, etc. They didn't want to start at ground zero like all new businesses do. They figured since that had the big names, those big rodeos should be handed to them too. Was the PRCA supposed to sit back and let that happen? All so a select few could have a bigger payday? Of course not. You CAN work for both companies. But you CAN'T own part of one and make decisions for it and expect to work in the other now.

In all honesty, the WPRA should have been standing with the PRCA all along. All those girls running ERA knew this would eventually happen. If they were surprised by it, then they obviously had their head in the sand.

My thoughts exactly^


As for Fallon. I follow her on everything snapchat, instagram you name it. Use to be a big fan but its been vanishing. I respect her tons and there's no doubt that she is a thriving business woman along with her million bieber followers and I'd like to share my thoughts because I don't come from a horsey family and don't have a ton of horse friends, let alone barrel friends because of where I live. But, I don't want to get bashed for speaking my mind!!!
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