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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:50 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:30 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross! I've heard that too! But mouse brains? Just just makes me sick thinking about it.
2. Don't assume that because something sounds bad or scary that it actually is. If something freaks you out, dig deeper and be picky about sources. Anti groups keep people following them through fear. Things like affiliate links are a really good living for some people.
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| cheryl makofka - 2016-10-13 4:53 PM
Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:28 PM
I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions.
It is not 70 needles.
The reason why children today get a few more vaccines then back in the 60's is because of scientific breakthroughs.
The vaccines have gotten better over the years, they are more pure, less risk.
The recommended schedule I saw was about 70 or so shots over the years with boosters into their teens. Just seems like a lot. The mouse brains thing was something I saw on an anti vax documentary and yes I know don't believe everything you read or hear. People get so bent out of shape over this issue and I don't get it. Seems to be a personal choice. |
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| I'm not a hardcore anti vaxer either. I'm just looking for someone to educate me. It's hard knowing what decision to make when you grew up with a mother that was a hardcore anti vaxer because of what it did to her first born. I was only 22 when my first daughter was born and my mom ripped me a new one for vaccinated her. So I figured grandma knows best and went with what she said and stoped them. My mom died of cancer 6 years ago so I can't talk to her about them anymore. So I go on pro vaxx and anti vaxx sites |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}  |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM
Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
I guess because my older brother almost died from receiving the shots. He was born in the 70s |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2016-10-13 5:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:50 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:30 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 4:13 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 3:57 PM 3canstorun - 2016-10-13 3:33 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. Polio, tetanus, whooping cough? I wouldn't wish those on anyone. Me neither! I did have a tetanus shot as a kid but only after a rusty horseshoe nail went threw my foot. I would just hate for my baby to be the one that reacts badly to vaccines. Everyone who is completely for vaccines have never been close to someone who was negatively affected by them. What if your child died from receiving them? Or got severe mental issues from them and was never normal? As of right now I'm not completely for or against them. I don't understand why they have to have all those other chemicals in them either. If you look up the ingredients in them it's very disturbing. Mouse brains is even an ingredient it's under a different name but that just gross! I've heard that too! But mouse brains? Just just makes me sick thinking about it.
2. Don't assume that because something sounds bad or scary that it actually is. If something freaks you out, dig deeper and be picky about sources. Anti groups keep people following them through fear. Things like affiliate links are a really good living for some people.
You said it Norma, I think thats its just crazy for someone not to want to keep their child healthy when so many diseases can be pervented. |
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Location: TEXAS | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM
Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 5:55 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death} I guess because my older brother almost died from receiving the shots. He was born in the 70s
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
Because there is risk involved. Vaccines are not 100% safe, nor 100% effective. Some people should not be vaccinated, and those are the ones who depend on "the herd" to help protect them, but we often can't identify these people ahead of time. Some vaccines are more important than others, some the risk vs benefit depends on the situation. Most kids tolerate them just fine, but that doesn't mean your kid will. That's why this is an issue. As a parent, my primary concern is the well-being of *my* children, not the good of society as a whole, and that's what makes this a difficult subject. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
Did you do the polio for your children? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 6:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
yes, I did do polio, along with DTaP, and MMR. My son will get the chicken pox vax next summer when he's 12. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I'm not discouraging immunizations, btw, and I do believe some are very important and valuable, but I can see both sides of the issue. Just a quick glance at the vaccine inserts will scare the bejeebus out of you if you don't have other info to balance it out. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:25 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 6:18 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-13 6:16 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-13 5:53 PM Why would anyone discourage someone from immunization their baby from anything that can make them sick or worst {death}
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 6:04 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 4:15 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 3:46 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. make sure you send a Christmas card to the herd I'm guessing that went right over her head. No need to respond to smart a$$ comments. I'm not saying don't vaccinate nor saying I'm completely against them. I'm just stating my own personal experience with my family and them. I'm sure if your brother almost died from them you would think twice about it too. It wasn't my choice to not vaccinate myself as a child it was my mothers. Since no harm has ever come to me from not being vaccinated I don't really see the positive side to it either. I've never even had chicken pox or anything nor has my sister. I'm just on the fence about it and obviously so is the OP.
the fact that you can not see how intellecutally dishonest that statement is only strengthens my position of making sure you send a Christmas Card to the herd.
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| 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 6:41 PM
Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 6:04 PM Bear - 2016-10-13 4:15 PM 1DSoon - 2016-10-13 3:46 PM Bnparlay - 2016-10-13 4:28 PM I am going threw this same thing right now. I am pregnant and not sure what to do. My bother almost died from getting vaccinations so when my sister and I were born my mom never vaccinated us at all and we have NEVER had an issue. My sister is 40 and I'm 33. I have a 11 year old daughter that only got a few shots as a small child than I stopped mostly cause my mom wigged out on me for giving them to her but she has never had an issue either. I just can't believe how many shots they want your child to have over the years it's like 70 or so shots! Back when I was a kid it was only about 5 shots! 5 seems normal not 70! I don't know what to do with this baby? I will be a stay at home mom so don't have to worry about daycare. I have read about all the horror stories of shots and it scares me. Not to mention what they did to my own brother. I think that some people can handle them fine and others can not. Supposedly Doctors and whoever else involved don't have to report vaccine injuries. So we don't even know how many kids have bad reactions. make sure you send a Christmas card to the herd I'm guessing that went right over her head. No need to respond to smart a$$ comments. I'm not saying don't vaccinate nor saying I'm completely against them. I'm just stating my own personal experience with my family and them. I'm sure if your brother almost died from them you would think twice about it too. It wasn't my choice to not vaccinate myself as a child it was my mothers. Since no harm has ever come to me from not being vaccinated I don't really see the positive side to it either. I've never even had chicken pox or anything nor has my sister. I'm just on the fence about it and obviously so is the OP.
Well I guess I don't get it? What's dishonest? I have never had to worry about vaccines until now. I'm only trying to educate myself on them so I can make the best choice for this baby. That's why I got on this thread. |
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Location: Opelousas, LA | Nevertooold - 2016-10-13 1:14 PM I believe in vaccinations but I don't believe in over vaccinating.
There is a reason most of the diseases have been gone but they are now showing up again because of unvaccinated children.
Don't forget about open borders. We are letting people in from countries that have virtually no sanitation systems in place and diseases that have never been an issue here are fairly common. |
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Location: Southwest New Mexico | I'm more of afraid of what's in the vaccinations than the diseases they are preventing. Some one said if you don't vaccinate homeschool or you will get everyone sick. If they are vaccinated they should be immune right???? There are too many kids these days with developmental delays and allergies compared to 30 years ago. I am waiting for a more definite answer as to what causes that before vaccinating my son any more. He did have tdap, polio, and one other shot from 2 months to 12 months. Nothing since. I personally know someone who has a permanent disease similar to MS that was caused by a hepatitis vaccine. She will end up wheel chair bound. It was proven in court that the vaccine caused it. It's so hard because you want the best for your babies
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| nm_ana07 - 2016-10-14 12:32 AM
I'm more of afraid of what's in the vaccinations than the diseases they are preventing. Some one said if you don't vaccinate homeschool or you will get everyone sick. If they are vaccinated they should be immune right???? There are too many kids these days with developmental delays and allergies compared to 30 years ago. I am waiting for a more definite answer as to what causes that before vaccinating my son any more. He did have tdap, polio, and one other shot from 2 months to 12 months. Nothing since. I personally know someone who has a permanent disease similar to MS that was caused by a hepatitis vaccine. She will end up wheel chair bound. It was proven in court that the vaccine caused it. It's so hard because you want the best for your babies
There actually isn't that many products in the vaccine. If you actually want to discuss what is in the vaccines message me, as I don't have my book in front of me.
As for the one individual who had a reaction to the hepatitis vaccine. Yes it can happen. The chance of having an adverse reaction to Hepatitis B vaccine is less then 1 per 1 million doses. Hepatitis B is more contagious then HIV and there is no cure for Hep B. The virus can live on a surface for 72 hours, and you need a very small amount of infected blood to contract the disease. If someone infected with Hep B has an oozing cut on their hand and opens a door, if you have a cut that isn't sealed and you touch it, you could contract the disease. If dentist equipment isn't sterilized properly you can get the disease from contaminated instruments.
Yes if you are vaccinated you shouldn't contract the disease, but there are special people who will never develop immunity to the vaccine, and this can be any vaccine.
It is also important to vaccinate to protect the people who can't be vaccinated, stem cell transplants, organ transplants, cancer patients. If you don't vaccinate for MMR say your child can be contagious before they show symptoms, you send them to school you just killed the kid who just beat cancer. |
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Location: Southwest New Mexico | cheryl makofka - 2016-10-14 5:45 PM
nm_ana07 - 2016-10-14 12:32 AM
I'm more of afraid of what's in the vaccinations than the diseases they are preventing. Some one said if you don't vaccinate homeschool or you will get everyone sick. If they are vaccinated they should be immune right???? There are too many kids these days with developmental delays and allergies compared to 30 years ago. I am waiting for a more definite answer as to what causes that before vaccinating my son any more. He did have tdap, polio, and one other shot from 2 months to 12 months. Nothing since. I personally know someone who has a permanent disease similar to MS that was caused by a hepatitis vaccine. She will end up wheel chair bound. It was proven in court that the vaccine caused it. It's so hard because you want the best for your babies
There actually isn't that many products in the vaccine. If you actually want to discuss what is in the vaccines message me, as I don't have my book in front of me.
As for the one individual who had a reaction to the hepatitis vaccine. Yes it can happen. The chance of having an adverse reaction to Hepatitis B vaccine is less then 1 per 1 million doses. Hepatitis B is more contagious then HIV and there is no cure for Hep B. The virus can live on a surface for 72 hours, and you need a very small amount of infected blood to contract the disease. If someone infected with Hep B has an oozing cut on their hand and opens a door, if you have a cut that isn't sealed and you touch it, you could contract the disease. If dentist equipment isn't sterilized properly you can get the disease from contaminated instruments.
Yes if you are vaccinated you shouldn't contract the disease, but there are special people who will never develop immunity to the vaccine, and this can be any vaccine.
It is also important to vaccinate to protect the people who can't be vaccinated, stem cell transplants, organ transplants, cancer patients. If you don't vaccinate for MMR say your child can be contagious before they show symptoms, you send them to school you just killed the kid who just beat cancer.
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