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| I'm going to preface this by saying - I hate them all. I hate the two party system. I hate how American politics has turned out. I am not a supporter of either side. I'm not liberal, I'm not conservative, I am 100% independent.
However, the majority of political people on this website are just out to spout lies to scare the masses. Eight years ago, I heard all these exact same things about Obama. How the world was going to end, life as you know it was over, and he was just after your guns.
None of that has happened. Life got a little more expensive, but overall quality of life for Americans as a whole has improved. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or oblivious.
I liked Bernie Sanders.... no, not because I'm lazy, only want free stuff, or think I'm entitled. I liked Bernie because he was real. He was a genuine person who stood for the same major ideas that I do. Once Bernie got ripped off for the democratic nomination (because he did, the whole thing was rigged and everyone knows it), I moved on to looking closer at the other candidates that I didn't like as much, but could tolerate. I don't like either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson because.... they have odd viewpoints and I don't agree with most of their points. So I looked at Trump and Clinton.
Another point before I continue - I don't care about emails, I don't care about Benghazi, I don't care about whatever the hell you want to complain about to make it look like she 'isn't qualified' (that's a bunch of bull and everyone knows it - if we are going off of who is qualified, Trump doesn't even need to be mentioned). I care about viewpoints. I care about their opinions on issues. I think both major party nominations have serious flaws about them.
The issue I have with Trump is simply he can't make up his mind on what the hell he stands for. He changes his mind more than a 5 year old, and then lies when you point it out. He put the nail in his coffin for me when he picked Pence as his VP, because he is the most worthless scum to ever walk the planet.... yes, I'm from Indiana, we are glad to see him GONE.
Not that it is really anyone's business, but I will vote Hillary. Not because I like her, I really don't. But the viewpoints that she has held this entire election are ones that I can most agree with. That is all that should matter when looking at your candidates. Every politician who has ever held office will have skeletons in their closet. Trump doesn't have any because he has never had any political experience in his life - but he has more than enough moral and social skeletons to talk about for weeks.
I don't care who you vote for. All I care about is that before you vote, actually look at what all the candidates stand for. Listen to what they say. Go back and see what viewpoints have changed over this election span, because that is a good indicator that they don't really believe what they are telling you.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Well, I must be one of those oblivious idiots then.
Yes, Obama has done a great deal to lessen the quality of life for most Americans.....at least the ones that I know. I'll point out one obvious example: ObamaCare. | |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-10-17 4:32 PM I'm going to preface this by saying - I hate them all. I hate the two party system. I hate how American politics has turned out. I am not a supporter of either side. I'm not liberal, I'm not conservative, I am 100% independent. However, the majority of political people on this website are just out to spout lies to scare the masses. Eight years ago, I heard all these exact same things about Obama. How the world was going to end, life as you know it was over, and he was just after your guns. None of that has happened. Life got a little more expensive, but overall quality of life for Americans as a whole has improved. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or oblivious. I liked Bernie Sanders.... no, not because I'm lazy, only want free stuff, or think I'm entitled. I liked Bernie because he was real. He was a genuine person who stood for the same major ideas that I do. Once Bernie got ripped off for the democratic nomination (because he did, the whole thing was rigged and everyone knows it), I moved on to looking closer at the other candidates that I didn't like as much, but could tolerate. I don't like either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson because.... they have odd viewpoints and I don't agree with most of their points. So I looked at Trump and Clinton. Another point before I continue - I don't care about emails, I don't care about Benghazi, I don't care about whatever the hell you want to complain about to make it look like she 'isn't qualified' (that's a bunch of bull and everyone knows it - if we are going off of who is qualified, Trump doesn't even need to be mentioned). I care about viewpoints. I care about their opinions on issues. I think both major party nominations have serious flaws about them. The issue I have with Trump is simply he can't make up his mind on what the hell he stands for. He changes his mind more than a 5 year old, and then lies when you point it out. He put the nail in his coffin for me when he picked Pence as his VP, because he is the most worthless scum to ever walk the planet.... yes, I'm from Indiana, we are glad to see him GONE. Not that it is really anyone's business, but I will vote Hillary. Not because I like her, I really don't. But the viewpoints that she has held this entire election are ones that I can most agree with. That is all that should matter when looking at your candidates. Every politician who has ever held office will have skeletons in their closet. Trump doesn't have any because he has never had any political experience in his life - but he has more than enough moral and social skeletons to talk about for weeks. I don't care who you vote for. All I care about is that before you vote, actually look at what all the candidates stand for. Listen to what they say. Go back and see what viewpoints have changed over this election span, because that is a good indicator that they don't really believe what they are telling you. Don't be a sheep, make your own educated decision.
I find it absolutely hilarious that you could write this and then implore the throngs for an educated decision. | |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | TXBO - 2016-10-17 5:41 PM FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-10-17 4:32 PM I'm going to preface this by saying - I hate them all. I hate the two party system. I hate how American politics has turned out. I am not a supporter of either side. I'm not liberal, I'm not conservative, I am 100% independent. However, the majority of political people on this website are just out to spout lies to scare the masses. Eight years ago, I heard all these exact same things about Obama. How the world was going to end, life as you know it was over, and he was just after your guns. None of that has happened. Life got a little more expensive, but overall quality of life for Americans as a whole has improved. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or oblivious. I liked Bernie Sanders.... no, not because I'm lazy, only want free stuff, or think I'm entitled. I liked Bernie because he was real. He was a genuine person who stood for the same major ideas that I do. Once Bernie got ripped off for the democratic nomination (because he did, the whole thing was rigged and everyone knows it), I moved on to looking closer at the other candidates that I didn't like as much, but could tolerate. I don't like either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson because.... they have odd viewpoints and I don't agree with most of their points. So I looked at Trump and Clinton. Another point before I continue - I don't care about emails, I don't care about Benghazi, I don't care about whatever the hell you want to complain about to make it look like she 'isn't qualified' (that's a bunch of bull and everyone knows it - if we are going off of who is qualified, Trump doesn't even need to be mentioned). I care about viewpoints. I care about their opinions on issues. I think both major party nominations have serious flaws about them. The issue I have with Trump is simply he can't make up his mind on what the hell he stands for. He changes his mind more than a 5 year old, and then lies when you point it out. He put the nail in his coffin for me when he picked Pence as his VP, because he is the most worthless scum to ever walk the planet.... yes, I'm from Indiana, we are glad to see him GONE. Not that it is really anyone's business, but I will vote Hillary. Not because I like her, I really don't. But the viewpoints that she has held this entire election are ones that I can most agree with. That is all that should matter when looking at your candidates. Every politician who has ever held office will have skeletons in their closet. Trump doesn't have any because he has never had any political experience in his life - but he has more than enough moral and social skeletons to talk about for weeks. I don't care who you vote for. All I care about is that before you vote, actually look at what all the candidates stand for. Listen to what they say. Go back and see what viewpoints have changed over this election span, because that is a good indicator that they don't really believe what they are telling you. Don't be a sheep, make your own educated decision. I find it absolutely hilarious that you could write this and then implore the throngs for an educated decision.
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| I am pretty liberal. Hell would freeze over before I voted for either of these two candidates. But our problems are bigger than just these to candidates. We have a serious problem with corruption and greed. It's in both parties and every department. | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2016-10-17 4:46 PM
TXBO - 2016-10-17 5:41 PM FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-10-17 4:32 PM I'm going to preface this by saying - I hate them all. I hate the two party system. I hate how American politics has turned out. I am not a supporter of either side. I'm not liberal, I'm not conservative, I am 100% independent. However, the majority of political people on this website are just out to spout lies to scare the masses. Eight years ago, I heard all these exact same things about Obama. How the world was going to end, life as you know it was over, and he was just after your guns. None of that has happened. Life got a little more expensive, but overall quality of life for Americans as a whole has improved. Anyone who says otherwise is either an idiot or oblivious. I liked Bernie Sanders.... no, not because I'm lazy, only want free stuff, or think I'm entitled. I liked Bernie because he was real. He was a genuine person who stood for the same major ideas that I do. Once Bernie got ripped off for the democratic nomination (because he did, the whole thing was rigged and everyone knows it), I moved on to looking closer at the other candidates that I didn't like as much, but could tolerate. I don't like either Jill Stein or Gary Johnson because.... they have odd viewpoints and I don't agree with most of their points. So I looked at Trump and Clinton. Another point before I continue - I don't care about emails, I don't care about Benghazi, I don't care about whatever the hell you want to complain about to make it look like she 'isn't qualified' (that's a bunch of bull and everyone knows it - if we are going off of who is qualified, Trump doesn't even need to be mentioned). I care about viewpoints. I care about their opinions on issues. I think both major party nominations have serious flaws about them. The issue I have with Trump is simply he can't make up his mind on what the hell he stands for. He changes his mind more than a 5 year old, and then lies when you point it out. He put the nail in his coffin for me when he picked Pence as his VP, because he is the most worthless scum to ever walk the planet.... yes, I'm from Indiana, we are glad to see him GONE. Not that it is really anyone's business, but I will vote Hillary. Not because I like her, I really don't. But the viewpoints that she has held this entire election are ones that I can most agree with. That is all that should matter when looking at your candidates. Every politician who has ever held office will have skeletons in their closet. Trump doesn't have any because he has never had any political experience in his life - but he has more than enough moral and social skeletons to talk about for weeks. I don't care who you vote for. All I care about is that before you vote, actually look at what all the candidates stand for. Listen to what they say. Go back and see what viewpoints have changed over this election span, because that is a good indicator that they don't really believe what they are telling you. Don't be a sheep, make your own educated decision. I find it absolutely hilarious that you could write this and then implore the throngs for an educated decision.
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Location: Opelousas, LA | SloRide - 2016-10-17 5:02 PM I am pretty liberal. Hell would freeze over before I voted for either of these two candidates. But our problems are bigger than just these to candidates. We have a serious problem with corruption and greed. It's in both parties and every department.
Exactly, which is why half the GOP can't stand Trump along with 90% of the media. He knows thier game and I believe he will do more than anyone ever has to put and end to it.
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Location: Ky | Vickie - 2016-10-17 12:43 PM When Talmage Green first came down to Florida in the 80's with the idea of the D's format I said, this will ruin barrel racing. Why would anyone work to get better when they can make money being mediocre? Equal money in the divisions is just plain wrong. If you want to win more money get faster.
The D format was well before Talmadge Green. It was started in Portland, Tn based on the ET racing in drag racing. It was done because they coulodn't compete against Rooster.
And also the idea was to have one barrel race instead of a men's and women's and a youth. And for people to be able to win money while learning or training.
Talmadgfe and Mike did take the idea and run with it. Then the equal pay thing started in the same area as the D system started. To me that's as wrong as anything the sport ever experienced but it seems it's here to stay.
The D system was 3 D at the onset with a full second split. Now we have 5 and even 6 D races. And a youth and senior D system. Barrel racing was never much of a spectator sport but it not at all now. It has become a participant sport which was what Mike and Talmadge envisioned.
The old schoolers like me hate it. But we are dinosaurs of this sport. It's a new day of socialized barrel racing and it's here to stay.
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| I agree with you , I know for me financially I'm doing better than I was eight years ago, next time you go to a barrelrace look at all the freight liners pulling living quarter trailers, look what people pay for horses and the numbers are big and these are nbha sanctioned shows, it sure doesn't look like hard times. I do know it's a struggle for a lot i am a public servant and i am out in the rural areas of Appalachia five days a week. | |
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| tin can - 2016-10-17 5:20 PM I agree with you , I know for me financially I'm doing better than I was eight years ago, next time you go to a barrelrace look at all the freight liners pulling living quarter trailers, look what people pay for horses and the numbers are big and these are nbha sanctioned shows, it sure doesn't look like hard times. I do know it's a struggle for a lot i am a public servant and i am out in the rural areas of Appalachia five days a week.
And what was Obama's contribution to this new found prosperity? | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TXBO - 2016-10-17 5:26 PM
tin can - 2016-10-17 5:20 PM I agree with you , I know for me financially I'm doing better than I was eight years ago, next time you go to a barrelrace look at all the freight liners pulling living quarter trailers, look what people pay for horses and the numbers are big and these are nbha sanctioned shows, it sure doesn't look like hard times. I do know it's a struggle for a lot i am a public servant and i am out in the rural areas of Appalachia five days a week.
And what was Obama's contribution to this new found prosperity?
ObamaCare, you blithering idiot! | |
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| Bear - 2016-10-17 4:41 PM
Well, I must be one of those oblivious idiots then.
Yes, Obama has done a great deal to lessen the quality of life for most Americans.....at least the ones that I know. I'll point out one obvious example: ObamaCare.
Yeah I'm one of those idiots too. Sorry but anyone who votes for Hillary needs their head examined! | |
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| Bear - 2016-10-17 5:28 PM TXBO - 2016-10-17 5:26 PM tin can - 2016-10-17 5:20 PM I agree with you , I know for me financially I'm doing better than I was eight years ago, next time you go to a barrelrace look at all the freight liners pulling living quarter trailers, look what people pay for horses and the numbers are big and these are nbha sanctioned shows, it sure doesn't look like hard times. I do know it's a struggle for a lot i am a public servant and i am out in the rural areas of Appalachia five days a week. And what was Obama's contribution to this new found prosperity? ObamaCare, you blithering idiot!
LMAO! Yea, that must have been it. | |
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Location: lone star state | Debt... Huge amounts of unpayable debt. Most of those huge rigs are mortgaged to the end of time as are many horses. | |
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| Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol. | |
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Location: Ky | You can certainly count of the right to personally attack anyone that doesn't agree with them. The loudest in the room is usually not the rightest in the room. | |
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| jd&ez - 2016-10-17 5:41 PM You can certainly count of the right to personally attack anyone that doesn't agree with them. The loudest in the room is usually not the rightest in the room.
You can certainly count on the left to cry "personal attack" without an intelligent discussion of issues or rational solutions to problems. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-10-17 4:32 PM I don't care who you vote for. All I care about is that before you vote, actually look at what all the candidates stand for. Listen to what they say. Go back and see what viewpoints have changed over this election span, because that is a good indicator that they don't really believe what they are telling you. Don't be a sheep, make your own educated decision.
I certainly agree with these statements......and more importantly, RESEARCH and vote for the Senators and Representatives that follow YOUR values ......... | |
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