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        Location: Ky | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 11:36 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start.
It took Obama years to make changes. Now we have a president that know nothing about making policy or building consensus.
And if you are concerned about the law, then why vote for a crook like Trump?
The guy knows how to create bankruptcies. Is that the kind of change you are talking about?
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2016-11-11 4:14 PM
Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 11:36 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start.
 It took Obama years to make changes. Now we have a president that know nothing about making policy or building consensus.Â
And if you are concerned about the law, then why vote for a crook like Trump?
The guy knows how to create bankruptcies. Is that the kind of change you are talking about? Â
I'm disappointed jd&ez. For a while there today you almost seemed sensible. This guy has created what? 500 businesses? 4 of his businesses went bankrupt. Google all of his properties and look at the net worth of each, after debt. A lot of very successful people have experienced this. His company was on the ropes in the early 90's and he climbed out of it and emerged stronger than ever. Take a look at all the big failed Casinos over the last 20 years, both in AC and Vegas.
There are plenty of mega flops.
Obama didn't build any consensus to speak of. He strong armed fellow Democrats like Ben Nelson and Mary Landrieu into voting for the law, but that hardly constitutes consensus building. Most of what he did was via executive fiat. That's not consensus building. |
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| The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Let the crybabies protest until their asses rot off. If they break the law, arrest them and let them cry and scream in jail. |
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      Location: Arkansas | jake16 - 2016-11-11 7:01 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 1:28 PM
Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winningÂ
So now we have high school athletes disrespecting our flag at their games thanks to the NFL player......and teenage kids leaving school to protest....WAYVTOBGO PARENTS AND MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT.YES IT IS ALL THEIR FAULTS.THE MEDIA IS DISCUSTING. Can't wait til Soros gets what is coming to him.He should be jailed everyday for inducing panic at the VERY minimum.So glad that corrupt side is OUT OF THERE.
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      Location: Arkansas | Three 4 Luck - 2016-11-11 9:15 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-11 12:05 AM CanCan - 2016-11-10 9:56 PM Chandler's Mom - 2016-11-10 9:38 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2016-11-10 12:28 PM Apparently now high schoolers are leaving school to protest trump winning There was an incident in a nearby town Wednesday with some black kids protesting Trump's win. Well, a few of the white boys took umbrage and basically said if you can protest his win, we can protest your protest----and hung up a Confederate flag or two. One of the black boys posted on the internet in some form that if the white crackers showed up at school he was going to kill their a$$es". (In so many words ) Needless to say today was a wild day at the school---children searched for weapons, police involved, parents rushing to the school not really knowing what was going on but just hearing that they better go get their kids. . . . Pray God's hand on our country during these trying times. Goodness. How embarrassing for that to happen around here. I thought we were raised better. They did find some knives and also a 9 mm on a young man. How very scary
 I've been busy the last 2 days and missed this. Where did it happen?
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Haven't heard anything since the day of so died down pretty quickly I guess. They did say the individual that threatened to kill them didn't show up for school that day. Aren't the consequences from that type of threat pretty serious? |
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         Location: So. California | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin.
I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here. |
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| I watched something last night that really irrtated me. There was a teacher from California, she said her students were so upset and afraid of Trump. These were young kids. All girls, about 10 years old. One of Hillary's ads about Trump showed kids watching and listening to some of the, not so nice things he had said. Now I could see where that could be disturbing to some. I didnt' think it was something that should have been on tv. Then again, I was sick of Hillary's ads! Another teacher from Ohio, said her students didn't have a problem. They have adjusted well. Why would that? I guess one of the "peaceful" protests turned riot in Portland. No one has any respect for the law anymore.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Turner1 - 2016-11-12 7:02 AM
I watched something last night that really irrtated me. There was a teacher from California, she said her students were so upset and afraid of Trump. These were young kids. All girls, about 10 years old. One of Hillary's ads about Trump showed kids watching and listening to some of the, not so nice things he had said. Now I could see where that could be disturbing to some. I didnt' think it was something that should have been on tv. Then again, I was sick of Hillary's ads! Another teacher from Ohio, said her students didn't have a problem. They have adjusted well. Why would that? I guess one of the "peaceful" protests turned riot in Portland. No one has any respect for the law anymore.
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I actually figured that would be an effective ad......but then I thought about it and changed my mind. Most kids probably grow up hearing some pretty horrible things from parents, siblings, TV, friends, the Internet, etc.... That ad was predicated on this narrative that kids are fragile and need their safe space, etc..... This generation we are seeing rioting in the streets are the same kids who were brought up on the idea that even losers get a trophy. |
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      Location: Wyoming | Bear - 2016-11-11 9:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge.
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      Location: Wyoming | Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 9:36 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 11:13 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 11:06 AM jd&ez - 2016-11-11 10:07 AM Bear - 2016-11-11 8:49 AM All these protests are just empty, meaningless theatrics. They make for good TV news, but the outcome will ultimately be to the detriment of their promoters. It's just a bunch of whining lame ass brats. They will be as effective as Occupy Wall Street and BLM. George Soros and the Obamunists are giving one last gasp. Ignore them. Let them protest peacefully. If they break the law, arrest and prosecute them. A good winter storm will send their fragile asses home. I actually agree with you on this. I'm disappointed that Trump won but he won. Move on. There's really not going to be dramatic change and there wouldn't have been if Clinton had won.
To the winner goes the spoils. Trump deserves our support now. That's how a democracy is supposed to work. Well, I think there should be some dramatic changes. Cutting off the vast majority of Obama's executive actions and intrusive regulations will be something he can do very quickly. Negotiating much better trade deals and backing a bill to get out of NAFTA should be easy to do. Backing away from TPP is obvious. Cutting corporate taxes while eliminating loopholes will help to repatriate $2 trillion in corporate money back into the U.S. ObamaCare has to be scrapped and replaced by HSAs combined with catastrophic health insurance, elimination of barriers to competition across state lines, torte reform...all of this geared to free market capitalism and real, robust competition Border security and finally putting an end to the illegal immigration problem will take longer, but we should see results fairly quickly. Also, Trump will quickly be able to nominate someone to fill the vacancy on the SCOTUS. Anyway, I think we could see some fairly dramatic changes. Hell, just getting the SCOTUS vacancy filled will be huge. I'm not saying there shouldn't be dramatic change. Just that I don't believe there will be.
People wanted change. They expessed that at the ballot box. Across the board. Not just the presidential election. So let's see it! We saw a huge change when Obama came in so why would you think that a president that doesn't owe anyone anything...won't make a big change. Going back to a nation of laws that are enforced is a great start.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Anniemae - 2016-11-12 1:40 AM Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin. I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here. The Austin protestors were bussed in.
There was a peaceful protest last night in San Antonio. The so called head of the BLM in San Antonio got that one together and they started off by surrounding the Alamo and then moved on through downtown. They ended up with about 200 people and most were very young.
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | My question is are the majority of millenials in other countries big cry babies like the ones in the US? Could you imagine them having to defend this country? LOL
Thank God there are still some real parents out there that raised great kids right but it seems to be in the minority. What a stark difference between rural kids and city kids in general. The plan of the progressives is to move everyone into the cities so we can be controlled. |
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I smell George Soros and his henchmen, community organizers behind these hooligans. They want to give the viewing public the illusion that there's widespread chaos and anarchy in the streets.
Some of them don't even know what it is they're protesting.
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    Location: Colorado | Nevertooold - 2016-11-12 10:42 AM Anniemae - 2016-11-12 1:40 AM Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon. They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin. I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well? Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Really proud of our LEO. They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Praying it continues to be peaceful here.
The Austin protestors were bussed in.
There was a peaceful protest last night in San Antonio. The so called head of the BLM in San Antonio got that one together and they started off by surrounding the Alamo and then moved on through downtown. They ended up with about 200 people and most were very young.
Sorry but the Buses were confirmed to being used at the electronics convention in Austin. This rumor was started by some idiot on Twitter.
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Stitch4k9 - 2016-11-12 10:35 PM
Nevertooold - 2016-11-12 10:42 AM Anniemae - 2016-11-12 1:40 AM Nevertooold - 2016-11-11 7:03 PM Turner1 - 2016-11-11 7:53 PM The protesters say they won't support Trump. I say they aren't supporting America. Just wonder how many of them even voted. Are these protests just in blue states? Hope they come to their senses soon.   They are protesting in Texas. Someone posted a picture of all the busses that brought them into Austin. I heard the Texas protests were in Dallas. Did Austin have protests as well?  Mostly college kids right?
L.A. protests have been largely peaceful, minor vandalism (culprits are surrounded and extracted from the crowd). A couple thousand, they did shut down freeways on Wednesday and Thursday nights. Â I'm grateful they have been mostly peaceful here. Â Other areas of the country have seen more violence, property damage. Â Really proud of our LEO. Â They are showing huge restraint, and keeping everyone calm and peaceful. Â Praying it continues to be peaceful here. Â
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The Austin protestors were bussed in.
There was a peaceful protest last night in San Antonio. The so called head of the BLM in San Antonio got that one together and they started off by surrounding the Alamo and then moved on through downtown. They ended up with about 200 people and most were very young.
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Sorry but the Buses were confirmed to being used at the electronics convention in Austin. Â This rumor was started by some idiot on Twitter. Â Â
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Nevertheless, the peaceful demonstrations have been an excellent demonstration of class. I'm sure they have not been organized by powerful people, adroit on capitalizing on the vast ignorance so pervasive amongst the young gallant progressive lemmings. Lord knows we have no evidence of any sinister forces acting in such a way as to be deliberately disruptive over the past year. Nah! |
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| Thank goodness I didn't raise snowflakes! As a former educator THIS coddling is the main reason I left education. As a mother trying to raise responsible, accountable children it was too exhausting try to battle the system being put into place.
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    Location: Colorado | Nevertheless.... it was a LIE.
I am honestly sorry that you can not understand people of all ages, backgrounds, color, etc., being able to come together and protest. Many of them are as educated as you are. Most have jobs and voted. They are truly concerned about the "changes" that are about to happen. Fact is not everyone in the USA believes the way you do. It does not make them less than. I am amazed at those claiming to be good christians who so quickly call names and degrade those who feel differantly. The numerous horse barns in TX, OK, etc., who have used illegal mexican help for years. Now they blame the illegals for every ill of the country. No blame for the employer. How about the illegals who have picked crops in this country for decades. Buying products from Mexico and China is okay because it was legal? No personal responsability for making the choice to buy product made in the USA. The list goes on.
Fact is the popular vote and e.c. split this election. Had it gone the other way I doubt seriously it would have been any less frustrating to your side.
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