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Location: California | WiscoRacer - 2017-03-06 8:40 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-03-06 9:28 PM
I buy Bryant Alfalfa pellets because they are softer. I found the standlee pellets way too hard. Soaking isn't always possible so I choose to go with a softer pellet. I was using the Bluebonnet pellets but the Bryant ones are cheaper and are still great quality.
Good info, thank you! I'll have to see if they carry it around here. I'd like to not be able to soak.
I had a run in with the Standlee pellets once, fed them without soaking as I'd done many times before but this particular horse ended up choking at 10 o clock on a Sunday night. Definitely learned my lesson there.
My mother has an arabian gelding that will not eat the standlee and my paint gelding will choke every time they are fed even if they a moistened down. |
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Location: California | Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-06 9:01 PM
WiscoRacer - 2017-03-06 9:40 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-03-06 9:28 PM
I buy Bryant Alfalfa pellets because they are softer. I found the standlee pellets way too hard. Soaking isn't always possible so I choose to go with a softer pellet. I was using the Bluebonnet pellets but the Bryant ones are cheaper and are still great quality.
Good info, thank you! I'll have to see if they carry it around here. I'd like to not be able to soak.
I had a run in with the Standlee pellets once, fed them without soaking as I'd done many times before but this particular horse ended up choking at 10 o clock on a Sunday night. Definitely learned my lesson there.
Where do you get the info for Bryant alfalfa pellets, I googled but cant find anything on them. I wanted to see if theres any binding they use for them.
I'll see if we still have a bag so I can take a pic of the label. I buy them from a local feed store that also sells Bluebonnet. |
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| Serenity06 - 2017-03-07 3:55 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-06 9:01 PM
WiscoRacer - 2017-03-06 9:40 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-03-06 9:28 PM
I buy Bryant Alfalfa pellets because they are softer. I found the standlee pellets way too hard. Soaking isn't always possible so I choose to go with a softer pellet. I was using the Bluebonnet pellets but the Bryant ones are cheaper and are still great quality.
Good info, thank you! I'll have to see if they carry it around here. I'd like to not be able to soak.
I had a run in with the Standlee pellets once, fed them without soaking as I'd done many times before but this particular horse ended up choking at 10 o clock on a Sunday night. Definitely learned my lesson there.
Where do you get the info for Bryant alfalfa pellets, I googled but cant find anything on them. I wanted to see if theres any binding they use for them.
I'll see if we still have a bag so I can take a pic of the label. I buy them from a local feed store that also sells Bluebonnet.
If it's this company you're talking about, there's all kinds of other stuff in them besides alfalfa.
http://bryantgrainco.com/index.php/14-horse-pellet/
I did pick up a bag of standlee in the mean time. Had to wait a good 40 minutes for them to soak before I could feed them. I need to get to all the feed stores around here and document what they have for pellets. They're a bit more expensive too, $12.99 for a 40lb bag versus $9.99 for a 50lb. You'd think they'd be cheaper if there isn't all the added junk. Oh well. |
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Location: West Texas | Any concentrate that is under $10 a bag means it's got nothing but cheap junk food in it. Better off just to feed hay than that. Also, think of this: most pellets are cheaper than cubes, even within the same brand sometimes but it cost MORE to make pellets. Do you wonder how they get the cost down? Crap cheap hay is how it's done. Often times pellets are cheaper than the bale of hay you could buy, that means the hay in the pellet, you would take back to the feed store or never buy it in the first place. That is my issue with pellets, especially low cost ones. With forage, you generally get what you pay for.
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| Well I checked the bag last night and there is nothing on the bag and I know for sure it is not the Performance Complete. Pellets are smaller and I don't soak them as they seem to be a softer pellet. You could probably call Bluebonnet and find out. I also looked on their website but couldn't find them listed anywhere. I have tried the Standlee pellets before and just found them too hard. The Bluebonnet alfalfa pellets I get are more like their regular feed pellets. |
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Location: West Texas | These are probably what you are talking about.
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Location: California | WiscoRacer - 2017-03-07 9:49 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-03-07 3:55 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-06 9:01 PM
WiscoRacer - 2017-03-06 9:40 PM
Serenity06 - 2017-03-06 9:28 PM
I buy Bryant Alfalfa pellets because they are softer. I found the standlee pellets way too hard. Soaking isn't always possible so I choose to go with a softer pellet. I was using the Bluebonnet pellets but the Bryant ones are cheaper and are still great quality.
Good info, thank you! I'll have to see if they carry it around here. I'd like to not be able to soak.
I had a run in with the Standlee pellets once, fed them without soaking as I'd done many times before but this particular horse ended up choking at 10 o clock on a Sunday night. Definitely learned my lesson there.
Where do you get the info for Bryant alfalfa pellets, I googled but cant find anything on them. I wanted to see if theres any binding they use for them.
I'll see if we still have a bag so I can take a pic of the label. I buy them from a local feed store that also sells Bluebonnet.
If it's this company you're talking about, there's all kinds of other stuff in them besides alfalfa.
http://bryantgrainco.com/index.php/14-horse-pellet/
I did pick up a bag of standlee in the mean time. Had to wait a good 40 minutes for them to soak before I could feed them. I need to get to all the feed stores around here and document what they have for pellets. They're a bit more expensive too, $12.99 for a 40lb bag versus $9.99 for a 50lb. You'd think they'd be cheaper if there isn't all the added junk. Oh well.
No that's not what I'm feeding. Bryant has an a flat a pellet. It's not a concentrated feed it's alfalfa pellets.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Tdove - 2017-03-08 7:17 AM Any concentrate that is under $10 a bag means it's got nothing but cheap junk food in it. Better off just to feed hay than that. Also, think of this: most pellets are cheaper than cubes, even within the same brand sometimes but it cost MORE to make pellets. Do you wonder how they get the cost down? Crap cheap hay is how it's done. Often times pellets are cheaper than the bale of hay you could buy, that means the hay in the pellet, you would take back to the feed store or never buy it in the first place. That is my issue with pellets, especially low cost ones. With forage, you generally get what you pay for.
Doesn't it also have something to do with the ability to ship and store larger amounts of cubes/pellets for longer than a bale of hay? Economy of scale and all that. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Sandok - 2017-03-08 8:43 AM Well I checked the bag last night and there is nothing on the bag and I know for sure it is not the Performance Complete. Pellets are smaller and I don't soak them as they seem to be a softer pellet. You could probably call Bluebonnet and find out. I also looked on their website but couldn't find them listed anywhere. I have tried the Standlee pellets before and just found them too hard. The Bluebonnet alfalfa pellets I get are more like their regular feed pellets.
I have been looking too on Bluebonnets website, now that T-Dove posted a lable I see what you are talking about, I even googled the Alfa nibblets but hardly any info on them. So strange that Bluebonnet dont have them on their website, sure would be nice if they did have them on their site, I may have to call them and tell them they need to post this Alfa Nibblets for us to read about, lol.. |
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| Next time I am in there getting feed I will ask. I just work about 2 blocks from them in Ardmore, OK so it is easy for me to get feed and etc. So far I have been very happy with the Bluebonnet feed and horses seem to like it. |
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| No idea what's in your pellets. I'm going to be on the search for a new brand. I usually feed Standlee but the last couple bags my horses won't eat! I contacted them and they pretty much told me o well. I just had contacted them to see if there was other complaints or if they changed something. They were less than helpful. Not going to keep wasting my money on their products. |
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Location: Oklahoma | TDOVE I was feeding the omnis cubes when I first started over a year ago they was green. The last 2-3 times I got the cubes they was brown. Not just a little but brown. I am no longer feeding the omnis cubes for a different reason but the color change didn't help either. No I didn't call the company and complain What I am saying is the consistentcy changes no matter what you buy or how much you spend on a bag. |
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| Tdove - 2017-03-08 7:17 AM
Any concentrate that is under $10 a bag means it's got nothing but cheap junk food in it. Better off just to feed hay than that. Also, think of this: most pellets are cheaper than cubes, even within the same brand sometimes but it cost MORE to make pellets. Do you wonder how they get the cost down? Crap cheap hay is how it's done. Often times pellets are cheaper than the bale of hay you could buy, that means the hay in the pellet, you would take back to the feed store or never buy it in the first place. That is my issue with pellets, especially low cost ones. With forage, you generally get what you pay for.
I don't mind spending good money on quality pellets. I just don't think Standlee are any better quality than the Ametza, which is why I don't care to shell out more money for it.
I already feed free choice alfalfa, I just wanted a little extra something for my one horse as he gets worked harder. He's picky and will only eat the leaves and not the stems of the alfalfa. |
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| TDove-I would also like you take on the Omnis cubes being a different color. I picked up a bash Saturday and my dealer said that there was a mal-function in the bagging part and that the strip on the bag was not sewn on therefore would probably have to use scissors to cut the bag. Not a big deal but you do have to watch for and of the bag strings coming off and into the cubes. With this bag that I just opened and had to cut I noticed that the cubes were brown. Horses were not please with them either. |
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Location: Willows, CA | GLP - 2017-03-07 3:04 PM
Tdove - 2017-03-07 2:45 PM
GLP - 2017-03-07 11:45 AM
Tdove - 2017-03-07 11:20 AM
I have no idea what it is. Generally, all cubes, pellets, or any feed for that matter will have pieces of things getting into the feed. It could be a number of things, maybe some plastic that was baled into the hay or something similar to that scenario. There are a lot of choices for pellets out there. Generally, most pelleting mills use hay that isn't fit for sale as hay itself. Cubes are generally higher in quality, although some cubes are grinder hay and a few pelleting mills might use unspoiled hay, although I feel the latter to be very rare. I don't personally know about Standlee, so I am not commenting one way or the other. I have fed their pellets and they usually look to be high quality.
On a side note, Danco Forage is introducing a super premium pellet to the market soon. It is minimal 17% protein with actual protein being more around 19-20%. This will use only premium hay and will also contain more nutrition than other pellets. It is designed as an high energy, nutrient dense, partial forage, or partial concentrate replacement. The reason it is so potent and nutrient dense is that it is a dehy pellet. This means it is not dried in the field, losing energy and nutrients from the air and sun. It is cut and taken to a dehydrator to be quickly dried and then pelleted, with minimal nutrient loss.
Will it be a straight alfalfa pellet, or more like an Omni pellet?
Danco doesn't use GMO alfalfa do they? I know that there is not alot of proof out there concerning GMO vs. non-GMO, but I like to stay away from as much GMO as I can, just my personal preference.
Yes, the alfalfa used are not grown from genetically modified seeds and an all alfalfa pellet. The name for them will be AlfaLux
Thank you Tdove.
When will these be available in Texas? I have liked the overall quality that I hear from customers who have used the cubes. This can be a nice balancer for coastal programs along with RG. I look forward to seeing more about the new pellets. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Personally I think it's almost impossible not to ever find junk in our horse feed. I have found all kinds of interesting stuff and just picked out what looks like part of a tarp in my Mustang Sally Cubes. Luckily my horse didn't eat it. |
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| Nevertooold - 2017-03-09 5:45 PM
Personally I think it's almost impossible not to ever find junk in our horse feed. I have found all kinds of interesting stuff and just picked out what looks like part of a tarp in my Mustang Sally Cubes. Luckily my horse didn't eat it.
I agree, I bought some Standlee cubes recently and found 3 separate strands of baling twine in the bottom of the bag. I have found stuff in hay that we produced in our own fields. You never know what a high wind will send into a pasture. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Whiteboy - 2017-03-07 8:59 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it. I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say. Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is.
Yep, right by the freeway going into salt lake. Went by there 2 weeks ago and saw the hay sitting outside. Who knows, maybe that was filtered out? But after seeing the OP's pics it sure fit what I saw sitting outside the building. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2017-03-10 5:16 AM
Whiteboy - 2017-03-07 8:59 AM Southtxponygirl - 2017-03-07 8:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2017-03-07 4:28 AM There is a Standlee factory/mill whatever you want to call it by me. If you saw the hay they use you would never feed it.  I'm sure the inside of the bales are good, but the outside sure as heck isnt. We are talking black slime mold. Where is this mill at? You must be really close to this mill to beable to see the hay they haul in to make their pellets, I would like to call Standlee and see what they have to say.  Since I'm new to their products I sure want to make sure its what they say it is.Â
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Just to clarify, whatever I found in my alfalfa pellets was not found in a bag of Standlee pellets, Ametza was the brand I found whatever that was in. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Drove by the Standlee mill again yesterday and the hay stacked outside this time looked good and a new load was there being downstacked and it looked good. So perhaps the moldy stuff was set adide a reject. Who knows but yesterdays hay looked pretty nice. |
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