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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Boy United really screwed up on how they handled that man, the other air lines are using this to their advantage.. |
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| I have a totally different view. If the airline has this policy of a lottery to vacate seats and he was drawn at random to give his up , bad luck , get up and follow the rules. It should never have come to that. He acted like a baby having a tantrum and basically brought that on himself. Many have a severe sense of entitlement. Also, there were 3 others who had to get off that plane. Why did they not raise an issue and act like babies and fall to the ground??
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | FLITASTIC - 2017-04-12 10:35 AM I have a totally different view. If the airline has this policy of a lottery to vacate seats and he was drawn at random to give his up , bad luck , get up and follow the rules. It should never have come to that. He acted like a baby having a tantrum and basically brought that on himself. Many have a severe sense of entitlement.
Of course he brought it on himself. However, he will now not have to work another day in his life. So, to him, what's a little cuts and bruises? |
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FLITASTIC - 2017-04-12 10:35 AM I have a totally different view. If the airline has this policy of a lottery to vacate seats and he was drawn at random to give his up , bad luck , get up and follow the rules. It should never have come to that. He acted like a baby having a tantrum and basically brought that on himself. Many have a severe sense of entitlement.
Of course he brought it on himself. However, he will now not have to work another day in his life. So, to him, what's a little cuts and bruises?
I totally agree!!!!!! He is no different than those people who intentionally cause traffic accidents so they don't have to work. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | FLITASTIC - 2017-04-11 10:35 AM
I have a totally different view. If the airline has this policy of a lottery to vacate seats and he was drawn at random to give his up , bad luck , get up and follow the rules. It should never have come to that. He acted like a baby having a tantrum and basically brought that on himself. Many have a severe sense of entitlement. Also, there were 3 others who had to get off that plane. Why did they not raise an issue and act like babies and fall to the ground??
Agree.........
Here are the rules.........
United's contract of carriage states that passengers to be forcibly taken off a flight in the event of overbooking will be 'determined based on a passenger's fare class, itinerary, status of frequent flyer program membership, and the time in which the passenger presents him/herself for check-in without advanced seat assignment.'
That means that if you have a certain type of fare class, checked in early, have a flier status such as gold, or even just own a barely used frequent flier card, you are less likely to be bumped.
But passengers taking advantage of budget seats appear to be of less value to the airline.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4403660/United-not-likely-a...
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Location: Windoming | FLITASTIC - 2017-04-12 8:41 AM 3canstorun - 2017-04-12 7:37 AM FLITASTIC - 2017-04-12 10:35 AM I have a totally different view. If the airline has this policy of a lottery to vacate seats and he was drawn at random to give his up , bad luck , get up and follow the rules. It should never have come to that. He acted like a baby having a tantrum and basically brought that on himself. Many have a severe sense of entitlement. Of course he brought it on himself. However, he will now not have to work another day in his life. So, to him, what's a little cuts and bruises? I totally agree!!!!!! He is no different than those people who intentionally cause traffic accidents so they don't have to work.
From a news source, International Business Times:
Less than three years before a passenger was forcibly removed from one of its aircrafts, United Airlines assured federal regulators that all ticketed passengers are guaranteed seats on flights. The promise was delivered in federal filings reviewed by International Business Times.In September 2014 comments to federal officials, the Chicago-based airline outlined its op position to proposed rules that sought more disclosure of the fees airlines charge to customers. One of the rules at issue was designed to compel airlines to more explicitly disclose fees charged for reserving specific seats.
Later in the filing, United Airlines expanded on its promise to regulators that it guarantees every ticketed passenger a seat. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | Based on my personal experience United's service sucks. Baring some extreme emergency I will never fly with them again. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Bear - 2017-04-11 3:05 PM OK everyone agrees on this, basically, but people don't always think of things from the airlines point of view either. You can say what you want about overbooking, but what happens if you have even a non-refundable ticket and you decide to cancel the day before, for whatever reason? Most of the time, even with a cheap, non-refundable ticket, you can get credit and apply it to a future flight, maybe for a small re-booking fee. Those last minute cancellations might not be replaced, and the airlines take a hit in those cases.
I agree with this. I was able to call and cancel my flight 20 minutes before it was to take off when we got stuck on the interstate because of flooding and I couldn't get to the airport. It would have sucked to have lost over $400.00. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Social media is overwhelmed with memes poking ridicule at UAL.
That is not going to help their bottom line.
They lost $1.4 Billion in the Dow yesterday.....that's roughly their profit for 2016.
Sure makes a few hundred more look like small potatoes to me.
They f*cked up royally...big time. Plain and simple. |
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Location: Kansas | Bear - 2017-04-12 8:30 AM Frodo - 2017-04-12 7:05 AM Putting myself in that passenger's place, I believe I would have stood up and handled it much better from the get-go. He had to have reacted childishly in order for this scene to reach such a chaotic level. Not defending Security but come on........live to fight another day.
Heck no. This guy hit the mother lode by squealing and resisting.
I know I'm just saying I couldn't have stooped to that level and if he weren't trolling for a lawsuit he wouldn't have either. Human parasite.
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| Just read this and found it interesting. Lots of info I wasn't aware of, including that the passenger ran back onto the plane.
https://thepilotwifelife.wordpress.com/2017/04/11/i-know-youre-mad-at-united-but-thoughts-from-a-pilot-wife-about-flight-3411/
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Location: Where I am happiest | So I wonder if United's ticket sales have plumeted? |
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It is not true that he ran back on the plane. If he had boarded illegally they would not have been offering vouchers to get him to leave the plane. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Silly Filly - 2017-04-12 9:52 AM FLITASTIC - 2017-04-12 8:41 AM 3canstorun - 2017-04-12 7:37 AM FLITASTIC - 2017-04-12 10:35 AM I have a totally different view. If the airline has this policy of a lottery to vacate seats and he was drawn at random to give his up , bad luck , get up and follow the rules. It should never have come to that. He acted like a baby having a tantrum and basically brought that on himself. Many have a severe sense of entitlement. Of course he brought it on himself. However, he will now not have to work another day in his life. So, to him, what's a little cuts and bruises? I totally agree!!!!!! He is no different than those people who intentionally cause traffic accidents so they don't have to work. From a news source, International Business Times:
Less than three years before a passenger was forcibly removed from one of its aircrafts, United Airlines assured federal regulators that all ticketed passengers are guaranteed seats on flights. The promise was delivered in federal filings reviewed by International Business Times.
In September 2014 comments to federal officials, the Chicago-based airline outlined its op position to proposed rules that sought more disclosure of the fees airlines charge to customers. One of the rules at issue was designed to compel airlines to more explicitly disclose fees charged for reserving specific seats.
“Including advance-seat-assignment charges among the ‘basic ancillary service’ fees that must be disclosed as part of initial fare displays makes no sense,” the airline wrote to the Department of Transportation. “Every ticket, of course, guarantees a passenger a seat on the plane, with no additional mandatory seat-assignment charges."
Later in the filing, United Airlines expanded on its promise to regulators that it guarantees every ticketed passenger a seat.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | ThreeCorners - 2017-04-12 1:50 PM
So I wonder if United's ticket sales have plumeted?
They lost $1.4 billion yesterday. The company is getting its ass kicked. I highly doubt ticket sales have rebounded yet. |
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Great read. I am sorry, but this has gotten to much play.
If United goes Tits Up you thought flying was difficult before, well you ain't seen nothing yet. |
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