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Location: Idaho | ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-21 10:34 AM
So a lady down the road from us wants me dead now.....apparently her best three halter show mares have foals by our racebred stud....DNA proves it. Somehow back in March when I went away for a clinic for a few weeks they snuck over here and got bred through the fence. The owner had them bred to foal in early Feb to a top Halter stud so DNA was done and my boy is the sire....
She is extremely ****ed and wants me to take the foals off her hands because she swears they will be useless to her....so now I have three foals all fillies that have a very uncertain future.
The mares are the following, (Playgirls Conclusion x Sugar bars), (Clu Heir x Coolest), (Impressive x Sierra Te)
If there is any chance these babies have a future in some kind of performance event or something please let me know!!!
P.S. The stallion is (Corona Cartel x Takin On The Cash)
I can't say much for your situation, but I would say shame on her for breeding a N/H mare. That is what is wrong with the breeding world sometimes, but also I don't know if a stud can contract HYPP from just being bred? I might be wrong, I thought it was an inherited disorder.
But those bloodlines aren't anything special. On the Clu Heir x Coolest mare, you have some cow back there with Skippa Star (Skipper W), but then you have a double bred Impressive on the other side. I'm not a fan of Skipper W's.. but they are those horses that they either like you, or they don't.
I had a Sierra Te Gelding once and I LOVED him, he was so smart, fast, catty and willing. But he also had a lot of other bloodlines to add to the mix (Jet Deck, Go Man Go, Beduino) so that may have added to it. He was nice though.
With those Impressive horses they are a hit or miss. Those that I know who have had them love them. A lot say they are smart and willing. They won't make you a 1D horse, but they will get the job done.
If you take the babies then you may have a chance of getting some money out of them. They may surprise you. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I am sorry but something is not adding up here for me. I find it so hard to believe that THREE of her mares were bred & did not catch, then just happen to get out (WHILE YOU WERE GONE) and was bred through the fence  To top it off, she is blaming you and wants you to buy the fillies... And apparently pressuring you to the point of feeling you should take the fillies.... This is NOT against you...but something, on the other end, is NOT adding up!!! I would proceed with much caution because I don't want to see you taken advantage of. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | I would say that the owner of the mares had them bred first and didn't know if they stuck so when she found out that the neighbors that owned the stud were gone. She took her mares to the stud and had him breed them also. Probably thought no one would know the difference and sell the fillies as the original studs offspring. But got caught in the DNA test. Now is trying to cover her own A** with AQHA. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | BS Hauler - 2017-09-21 4:06 PM I would say that the owner of the mares had them bred first and didn't know if they stuck so when she found out that the neighbors that owned the stud were gone. She took her mares to the stud and had him breed them also. Probably thought no one would know the difference and sell the fillies as the original studs offspring. But got caught in the DNA test. Now is trying to cover her own A** with AQHA. This is the most logical post on here....
I'd take her to small claims court for 3 stud fees and breaking and entering. 
Also, get your stud tested for STDs from those Huzzies 
Edited by IRunOnFaith 2017-09-21 4:11 PM
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | Nateracer - 2017-09-20 1:31 PM Personally, I'd just take them, register them, get them 5 panel tested and sell them. She's out a years worth of foals, but hey, she could do the same thing! ^^^^
N/H shouldn't be bred anyways, so shame on her for doing it! Piffs me off....
Not gonna lie, there's a real good chance those colts will be quite spiffy bred like that! I had an old Impressive mare (grandsire was Impressive, so close) and she was a great all around horse, halter, pleasure, jumping, and barrels. She was old foundation on the bottom.
I am with you Nateracer!
If her mares came to you; it is her fault. There are many halter people that breed HYPP mares that shouldn't.
BUT...there are many Impressive/halter bred horses that are very nice performance horses. I wouldn't be scared of them if the price was right. I have rode many of them over the years. With your stallion being the lines and the performance background; you could come out not to bad. If you really don't want to deal with the foals there are others who may want to.
But never the less she needs to sign out so you can register the foals.
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Location: Running my kids somewhere. | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-21 4:09 PM BS Hauler - 2017-09-21 4:06 PM I would say that the owner of the mares had them bred first and didn't know if they stuck so when she found out that the neighbors that owned the stud were gone. She took her mares to the stud and had him breed them also. Probably thought no one would know the difference and sell the fillies as the original studs offspring. But got caught in the DNA test. Now is trying to cover her own A** with AQHA. This is the most logical post on here....
I'd take her to small claims court for 3 stud fees and breaking and entering.
Also, get your stud tested for STDs from those Huzzies
Well said.
You are not the one in trouble! She is! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wheres the OP I would love to hear a update to all this. Please dont leave us hanging to long.  |
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
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Location: Kansas | DashNDustem - 2017-09-21 1:15 PM ktbeasleyze - 2017-09-21 10:34 AM So a lady down the road from us wants me dead now.....apparently her best three halter show mares have foals by our racebred stud....DNA proves it. Somehow back in March when I went away for a clinic for a few weeks they snuck over here and got bred through the fence. The owner had them bred to foal in early Feb to a top Halter stud so DNA was done and my boy is the sire.... She is extremely ****ed and wants me to take the foals off her hands because she swears they will be useless to her....so now I have three foals all fillies that have a very uncertain future. The mares are the following, (Playgirls Conclusion x Sugar bars), (Clu Heir x Coolest), (Impressive x Sierra Te) If there is any chance these babies have a future in some kind of performance event or something please let me know!!! P.S. The stallion is (Corona Cartel x Takin On The Cash) I can't say much for your situation, but I would say shame on her for breeding a N/H mare. That is what is wrong with the breeding world sometimes, but also I don't know if a stud can contract HYPP from just being bred? I might be wrong, I thought it was an inherited disorder. But those bloodlines aren't anything special. On the Clu Heir x Coolest mare, you have some cow back there with Skippa Star (Skipper W ), but then you have a double bred Impressive on the other side. I'm not a fan of Skipper W's.. but they are those horses that they either like you, or they don't. I had a Sierra Te Gelding once and I LOVED him, he was so smart, fast, catty and willing. But he also had a lot of other bloodlines to add to the mix (Jet Deck, Go Man Go, Beduino ) so that may have added to it. He was nice though. With those Impressive horses they are a hit or miss. Those that I know who have had them love them. A lot say they are smart and willing. They won't make you a 1D horse, but they will get the job done. If you take the babies then you may have a chance of getting some money out of them. They may surprise you.
Ummmm noooo.....it's not like an STD lol |
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| cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM
Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | want2chase3 - 2017-09-22 12:02 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
I remember that!
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Location: In the back forty | Sometimes Grannies under a tree have lived long enough to have some pretty educational true tall tales to tell, JMO |
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| cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM
Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
OP did this on a different post. . . talked about a trainer who starved a filly and never came back with an update.  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WrapN3MN - 2017-09-22 2:13 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
OP did this on a different post. . . talked about a trainer who starved a filly and never came back with an update.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | WrapN3MN - 2017-09-22 2:13 PM cowgalsissy - 2017-09-22 11:49 AM Is this a Grandma under a tree tall tale????
OP did this on a different post. . . talked about a trainer who starved a filly and never came back with an update.
I remember that post!!
Ugh... Someone should message the OP and ask her to come back.
Better yet, lemme use my sweet google skills and find her on Facebook. That should get the ball a rollin'  |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
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Location: LA Lower Alabama | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
less than 10 minutes new record ma'am??? |
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Location: Arizona | This is a crazy story. Who paid for the DNA tests? Why should the OP pay for anything, it was her mares that got out...makes no sense to me. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | IRunOnFaith - 2017-09-22 3:08 PM Found her!
But it won't let me message her... boooo
The stud she has is beautiful tho....
So if she took the owner of the mares to court based on the 2016 breeding fee advertised, she would get $4,500 for the breeding fees, Plus court costs, attorney fees, breaking and entering, and emotional damages (Because it's 2017, hello) for the stud since the mares were "forced" on him.
I hate it when someone makes a thread like this and then wont do any updating, I'm still wondering what type of fencing that this stud bred these mare threw all at one time and if there were any injurys? Lots of good questions on here, not saying we are againt her if this all is true, just curious how this could have happen.. Did the mares run back home after their little party?  |
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| This is where hidden well placed cameras come in handy! I remember a very long time ago a neighbors stud horse got out and came onto my in laws place and was running my father in laws mares around, he didn't get the chance to reproduce, thank goodness! They got him caught and returned him home and called the law... the owner wasn't home but she denied the whole story about "her baby" getting out... they showed the sheriff the pics and she got busted for not having proper fencing! And I believe she got a hefty fine. |
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