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RE: Diesels for towing - UPDATE

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MissouriJen
Reg. Dec 2011
Posted 2017-11-29 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: Diesels for towing



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Katielovestbs - 2017-11-29 11:08 AM Thank you! I currently have an F150 gas that I LOVE. But I am needing an upgrade from that, because the towing capacity is not enough anymore. Bombproof trucks though! Just wanting to know if an 07 1 ton GAS will be enough of an upgrade? And how they tow and hold up compared to a diesel?

 My mom pulls a 3 horse with a small weekender with a 2008 F250 gas.  For the most part, the truck handles everything well.  I think she gets about 9-10 mpg pulling the trailer whereas I get 13-14 pulling my 4 horse gooseneck (no lq) with my '08 Duramax.  I believe the only time she has felt like she needed more truck is when she's going up really big/long hills.  
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reese_tx
Reg. Nov 2014
Posted 2017-11-29 3:43 PM
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In 2012 I bought a used 2010 F250 6.4 Diesel quadcab super duty w/35K miles. Now only 75K miles and ALMOST paid for. Love it but can't say the same for Ford House repair experiences ("covered" under extended warranty - I found that a lot of things were not covered so was nickle and dime'd there, but that's most likely the case with any dealership repair center). They even forgot to refill anti-freeze on last repair (even though they charged me for 3 jugs) - figured it out when it started running weird and heater stopped working. They just apologized - didn't even offer to refund me for the antifreeze they forgot to put in that they charged me for - let alone it could have blown up my engine had I driven it more).

I plan on keeping this thing until the wheels fall off - they are expensive! Good Luck!
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WYOTurn-n-Burn
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2017-11-29 4:20 PM
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Katielovestbs - 2017-11-29 11:08 AM Thank you! I currently have an F150 gas that I LOVE. But I am needing an upgrade from that, because the towing capacity is not enough anymore. Bombproof trucks though! Just wanting to know if an 07 1 ton GAS will be enough of an upgrade? And how they tow and hold up compared to a diesel?

I would think for a 3-4 horse (small LQ) you would be just fine suspension, braking, etc with a 1 ton. The difference would be with the power and fuel mileage. You'd have more power and better fuel with diesel, but those would be concessions I'd be willing to make depending on the price of the vehicle. 
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Stubsgirl
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2017-11-30 9:21 AM
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I think it really comes down to personal taste. We had a 6.0 and put in four injectors, but it pulled and drove nicely. Loved our 7.3. We had a '13 Duramax that we didn't like at all and currently drive a '15 Cummins, which we LOVE and has the best ride of any one ton we have had.

I think if you go gas (which I don't have much experience with except the 300 inline that they never should have dumped) you lose on mileage, power and perhaps resale. But if you find a good price on one you like and you don't pull through hard terrain it may be worth a try. There are people that are very brand loyal, but I think they all have their pros and cons, so go with what YOU like.


Also, just my two cents on a gas 3500 with over 100K...I would be more leary of a 3500 over 100K than a halfton at that mielage because I would assume the 3500 was bought to tow. where a half ton may never have pulled a trailer in its life. Of course there are a lot of half tons pulling things they shouldn't, but I hope that is not the norm. If over 100K at purchase I would be much more comfortable with a diesel.
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Katielovestbs
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2017-11-30 10:12 AM
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All very good insight! Thank you guys for your experiences and opinions. I am test driving the gas truck tomorrow! It's an 07 gmc sierra 3500. As for the type of driving I do, I have a commuter car, so I will only be using the truck on weekends, or for towing the horses and dirtbikes. I have 2 horses (at the moment, haha) and the trailer I'm getting is a 3 horse steel, stock type (bumper pull). So hopefully this truck will tow that around no problem =] I don't go super far to races, MAYBE a state over, but that's usually it. The passes here aren't super steep, but the roads do get gnarly this time of year. I'm in Washington state =]
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slipperyslope
Reg. Nov 2008
Posted 2017-11-30 9:32 PM
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I had a Chevy 3500 gas dually several years ago & loved the truck but could not pass a gas station. I usually got 5-6 mph pulling a 4H with medium sized LQ 4 Star.
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Racer4eva
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2017-12-01 7:59 AM
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slipperyslope - 2017-11-30 10:32 PM

I had a Chevy 3500 gas dually several years ago & loved the truck but could not pass a gas station. I usually got 5-6 mph pulling a 4H with medium sized LQ 4 Star.

I had a 2500 chevy gas burner before i traded in for a 3500 chevy diesel. It couldnt pass a gas station either and it got about 8 mph pulling a 2 horse all aluminum bp.
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emricmacy
Reg. Sep 2016
Posted 2017-12-01 8:05 AM
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We have a 2016 Ram 3500 diesel and that pulls our two horse bumper bull easily. Can't even feel the trailer and horse behind it. It gets about 10mpg. We have a 2008 Ford F-350 diesel that also pulls around our trailer easily. We have another Ford F-350 diesel that pulls it great, and we have a Ford F-450 diesel that we haven't pulled the trailer with yet. A couple of these trucks have a dump body on them. We run all diesels.
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travish
Reg. Dec 2017
Posted 2017-12-25 9:51 PM
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MissouriJen - 2017-11-29 11:31 AM
Katielovestbs - 2017-11-29 11:08 AM Thank you! I currently have an F150 gas that I LOVE. But I am needing an upgrade from that, because the towing capacity is not enough anymore. Bombproof trucks though! Just wanting to know if an 07 1 ton GAS will be enough of an upgrade? And how they tow and hold up compared to a diesel?
 My mom pulls a 3 horse with a small weekender with a 2008 F250 gas.  For the most part, the truck handles everything well.  I think she gets about 9-10 mpg pulling the trailer whereas I get 13-14 pulling my 4 horse gooseneck (no lq) with my '08 Duramax.  I believe the only time she has felt like she needed more truck is when she's going up really big/long hills.  

I would opt for Duramax either especially for uphill roads. One guy brought his Duramax for the new set of tires and kmc wheels installation. 150k miles on the clock and still runs like a champ averaging 18mpg.
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aqhabarrelchic1
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2017-12-26 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: Diesels for towing


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I had a 2007 2500hd gas and I got 12 city and 14-15 highway with a trailer unless I was going up hills lol... I loved that truck but traded my dad for his 06 diesel..
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Shushi
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2017-12-27 3:30 PM
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FLITASTIC - 2017-10-31 11:23 AM

I'm a dodge guy myself. Just for the cummins engine. Nothing else.. If I could get the cummins in a ford, I would do it.

MY SO's son just put a cummins in a ford, because the work guys kept blowing up the PowerStroke. They make a kit for it.
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Shushi
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2017-12-27 3:34 PM
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BS Hauler - 2017-10-31 5:24 PM I have a Ford 6.0 and 7.3. There is nothing wrong with the 6.0 from it engineering standpoint. It is that ford put in the wrong antifreeze in them. That is what started all the problems with them. And let me tell you. ALL Diesel trucks have their problems. And they are all expensive to fix. You will never recoup the cost of owning a diesel if you don't know how to mantain them.  For what most people do with their trucks and for as few miles as they use them for pulling trailers they would be far better off with a big gas engine. Horsepower is horsepower.  But stopping a lot of weight is everything. Get your trailer first then figure out what you need for a truck.

I am not necissarily a Ford fan...until the past few years. My SO had a '04 6.0, and it ran like a champ. He did all the upgrades and maintenance to make it great. 

We just bought the '17 Ford diesel (6.7 I think) and I have never been in anything with more power right out of the factory. 

My brothers have worked for Chrysler, so I am of course a Dodge fan too. COme from a Chevy family but wouldn't buy a duramax if you gave it to me.  
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Katielovestbs
Reg. Dec 2014
Posted 2018-01-26 4:56 PM
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Thank you guys SO much for all your insight and experience! I just thought I should update and say that I ended up going with a Ford F350!! And I absolutely LOVE it! Thank you guys =] Now to upgrade the horse trailer, hehe
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sorrel horse ranch
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2018-01-26 9:23 PM
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Glad you like your new truck. 
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