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| aqhabarrelchic1 - 2017-12-11 12:48 AM *almost there* - 2017-12-11 10:01 PM jake16 - 2017-12-10 9:19 PM UGLY GROUND TONIGHT!!!!!TO MANY HORSES DOWN:( Yes!!!!! And the announcers keeping saying how great the ground is this year, and I’ve seen horses slip, fall or what not every round!!! Wonder how much they’re getting paid to say it’s great ground! The ground was bad last night too.... there were a lot of slips before tonight
Agree, I wonder if that is why Hailey’s Sister is pulling off the 3rd, feels the iffy ground and won’t get down. I like a smart horse. |
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| Your going to have horses slip and fall at EVERY BARREL RACE.... You have to look at the big picture. Until round 4, there were some slips, but nothing that indicated the ground was really that bad. ROund 4, the vast majority of horses had issues so there was a change at some point. You can only do so much with a concrete basketball court and dirt that has been there for decades.. Maybe they did change the dirt last year, but last I heard it was the same dirt every single year. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-12-12 7:15 AM
Your going to have horses slip and fall at EVERY BARREL RACE.... You have to look at the big picture. Until round 4, there were some slips, but nothing that indicated the ground was really that bad. ROund 4, the vast majority of horses had issues so there was a change at some point. You can only do so much with a concrete basketball court and dirt that has been there for decades.. Maybe they did change the dirt last year, but last I heard it was the same dirt every single year.
Did you watch the prior rounds? There were some littl slips and some big ones.... poor tianys horse from last night practically did the splits on the first and trotted around the second |
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Location: Louisiana | FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 9:15 AM
Your going to have horses slip and fall at EVERY BARREL RACE.... You have to look at the big picture. Until round 4, there were some slips, but nothing that indicated the ground was really that bad. ROund 4, the vast majority of horses had issues so there was a change at some point. You can only do so much with a concrete basketball court and dirt that has been there for decades.. Maybe they did change the dirt last year, but last I heard it was the same dirt every single year.
I feel like the ground is really packed....which while some horse will have issues, it's also what's helping along these super fast times.
Just think about stubbing the toe of your boot on concrete versus sand...and trying to run in both...
Edit: To clarify LOL...Yes, I totally agree the ground is crappy. But it's also why they're clocking faster, IMO.
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Location: Somewhere around here | I was actually very surprised to see so many horses falling last night, especially with having such a great new arena record run made last night. I hope they really work it good today.
On another note, I'm a little surprised to see the times of Tiany, Stevie, and Kassy. I don't know if the horses and rides are just trying to take care of themselves or something else. I'm not bashing them by any means, but this NFR has different runs than I was expecting! |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | Congrats to her! Ground is firm and fast this year. Many have complained in the past for being to loose so they firmed it up this year. Looks like the ladies need to have their farriers replace the nails in the horse shoes with "Ice nails" JMHO! |
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Location: California | then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO. |
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Location: California | Douglas J Gordon - 2017-12-11 9:44 AM
Congrats to her! Ground is firm and fast this year. Many have complained in the past for being to loose so they firmed it up this year. Looks like the ladies need to have their farriers replace the nails in the horse shoes with "Ice nails" JMHO!
Curious what this means? Thanks :) |
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Location: Ky | *almost there* - 2017-12-11 11:58 AM Douglas J Gordon - 2017-12-11 9:44 AM Congrats to her! Ground is firm and fast this year. Many have complained in the past for being to loose so they firmed it up this year. Looks like the ladies need to have their farriers replace the nails in the horse shoes with "Ice nails" JMHO! Curious what this means? Thanks : )
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| *almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM
then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO.
Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I always wonder if some of the slips and near wrecks come from the simple fact that every one of them is going ALL OUT, holding nothing back every night. Horses get tired/sore, maybe a little burned out. It's an endurance contest in some ways.
I'm not skilled enough to say wether or not the ground is the issue or not...Just thoughts I have as things progress. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 12:26 PM *almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO. Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO.
Amberleigh said she rode her different because of the ground, kept ahold of her more to be sure she stayed underneath her and less chance of slipping. I know that is part of the rodeo trail, horse and rider both knowing how to handle bad ground, but as an avid fan and at the biggest rodeo of all, I want to see good, safe ground where all 15 can lay down the best runs they have without fear of getting hurt because of the ground. A high percentage of complete falls and slips when you consider there are only 15 runs, ground should hold for 15. What I am seeing seems to be caused by ground not worked right as opposed to it getting torn up or stepping in a hole. Many of the contestants have said it is chunky, last year seemed to have more sand and the horses could grip and slide through it. |
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| I have to agree with what some of the others have said. The ground is hard and fast, which is why your getting fast times, however that doesn't mean its good ground.
I have to wonder.... Didn't they bring in special people to fix the ground last year? Maybe they brought the same ground back this year but not the same people to work the ground. I think maintenance is a huge factor in keeping good ground.
Edited to add... I see a few slips in the team roping too. Just some food for thought.
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | cecollins0811 - 2017-12-11 11:43 AM
I was actually very surprised to see so many horses falling last night, especially with having such a great new arena record run made last night. I hope they really work it good today.
On another note, I'm a little surprised to see the times of Tiany, Stevie, and Kassy. I don't know if the horses and rides are just trying to take care of themselves or something else. I'm not bashing them by any means, but this NFR has different runs than I was expecting!
It looks like it’s also the way she runs, she runs on the top of the ground, she’s very light footed, she has the advantage with that type of ground I believe. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 12:26 PM
*almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM
then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO.
Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO.
It’s HOW the horses run, like I just said, the ones running on the top of the ground aren’t having as much trouble as the heavier footed ass-dragging horses |
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| cecollins0811 - 2017-12-11 11:43 AM
I was actually very surprised to see so many horses falling last night, especially with having such a great new arena record run made last night. I hope they really work it good today.
On another note, I'm a little surprised to see the times of Tiany, Stevie, and Kassy. I don't know if the horses and rides are just trying to take care of themselves or something else. I'm not bashing them by any means, but this NFR has different runs than I was expecting!
I'm curious about what surprises you with their times - what do you mean?
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| cecollins0811 - 2017-12-11 11:43 AM I was actually very surprised to see so many horses falling last night, especially with having such a great new arena record run made last night. I hope they really work it good today. On another note, I'm a little surprised to see the times of Tiany, Stevie, and Kassy. I don't know if the horses and rides are just trying to take care of themselves or something else. I'm not bashing them by any means, but this NFR has different runs than I was expecting!
Tiany is having a tough time clocking but Kassie has placed 2nd in 2 rounds and Stevie ran good times but hit, she placed when she was clean. |
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Location: on the fine line between insanity and geniusness | RnRJack - 2017-12-11 1:57 PM
FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 12:26 PM
*almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM
then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO.
Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO.
It’s HOW the horses run, like I just said, the ones running on the top of the ground aren’t having as much trouble as the heavier footed ass-dragging horses
THIS. I don’t believe the ground is dangerous by any means. It took a .6 last night to place!! The straighter, roll back type of horses are having trouble with it, but if you watch all of them- they throw their body inside and their feet outside. The ones that run in there collected with their feet UNDER them not BESIDE them are having no issues. No Tiany didn’t have the run everyone was expecting last night- but she’s very open with the fact that Show Mance is an outside horse!! |
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| Ashley Lynn - 2017-12-11 3:12 PM RnRJack - 2017-12-11 1:57 PM FLITASTIC - 2017-12-11 12:26 PM *almost there* - 2017-12-11 9:56 AM then I must be watching a different rodeo than some people on this board. Yes you will have slips and what not, but there have been different riders almost falling off since day 1 from the ground not holding their horses, and really bad slips. Yes you except rodeo ground to not be good, but there’s a difference between bad ground and dangerous ground, IMO. Ground can't be that dangerous when 13th out wins the round JMHO. It’s HOW the horses run, like I just said, the ones running on the top of the ground aren’t having as much trouble as the heavier footed ass-dragging horses THIS. I don’t believe the ground is dangerous by any means. It took a .6 last night to place!! The straighter, roll back type of horses are having trouble with it, but if you watch all of them- they throw their body inside and their feet outside. The ones that run in there collected with their feet UNDER them not BESIDE them are having no issues. No Tiany didn’t have the run everyone was expecting last night- but she’s very open with the fact that Show Mance is an outside horse!!
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