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Location: Beggs, OK | I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort.
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| rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM
I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort.
What do you use the Clenbuterol for? I see this one mentioned a lot, but know nothing about it. | |
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| Sounds like some people need to have some educational discussions with their vets and not assume that an IV shot means a bad thing.
Sorry to burst your bubble but, if you think the key to winning comes from a needle, you're wrong. More than likely, you're just getting outrun by people who know what these horses need and how to keep them going.
Carry on with bringing false negative light to our sport..... great job....
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| barrelracinbroke - 2018-10-23 2:37 PM
Sounds like some people need to have some educational discussions with their vets and not assume that an IV shot means a bad thing.
Sorry to burst your bubble but, if you think the key to winning comes from a needle, you're wrong. More than likely, you're just getting outrun by people who know what these horses need and how to keep them going.Â
Carry on with bringing false negative light to our sport..... great job....Edited for grammar
Lots of times you don’t see it- you hear them talking about it in the stands or waiting in the consession line. And it is hardly ever at a rodeo, but the middle to large barrel races/futurities. And it’s usually not the big dogs but the middle or lower end who think that needle can make them a 1D contender. It’s out there, always has been and always will be. You just have to do what you think is right. I am not talking about Lasix or bute/banamine. I am talking about the “cocktails” some idiots use. | |
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| rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM
I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort.
I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication. | |
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Location: Beggs, OK | stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
In a perfect world....all things being equal....and if our horses could talk, then yes that would be a fantastic plan.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot. Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch. | |
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| GLP - 2018-10-23 2:06 PM barrelracinbroke - 2018-10-23 2:37 PM Sounds like some people need to have some educational discussions with their vets and not assume that an IV shot means a bad thing.
Sorry to burst your bubble but, if you think the key to winning comes from a needle, you're wrong. More than likely, you're just getting outrun by people who know what these horses need and how to keep them going.
Carry on with bringing false negative light to our sport..... great job....
Edited for grammar Lots of times you don’t see it- you hear them talking about it in the stands or waiting in the consession line. And it is hardly ever at a rodeo, but the middle to large barrel races/futurities. And it’s usually not the big dogs but the middle or lower end who think that needle can make them a 1D contender. It’s out there, always has been and always will be. You just have to do what you think is right. I am not talking about Lasix or bute/banamine. I am talking about the “cocktails” some idiots use.
I am by no means saying it isn't out there. I've played in this game for many many years, from futurities to pro rodeos and I don't disagree with you. I've seen some things that I completely do not agree with but, they're not overly common (I actually feel like it was worse in the 90s).
Yet, the original post had quite an assumptive tone that "any" drugs given IV are bad things. That's just not the case. | |
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| Whiteboy - 2018-10-23 5:11 PM
What about drugs like Reserpine? There are some big trainers that have advocated for it and admit use. Â
Some people need Xanax
Some horses need it as well
Also I want to be clear the types of Clenbuterol or alberterol that barrel racers are using I have absolutely no problem with...
The south of the border race track water "aka compounded clenbuterol" is what I was referring to....
Resperine, Cholorpromazine, Guanzabenz, and Ace (okay so maybe not this one but basically same as a glass of wine) are all forms of human meds that are actually the most prescribed drug with any health care provider these days. We put performance horses under tremendous pressure, some hold up and some need help. Just like people some hold up and some like me need wine. Like when I read these threads *pours self another glass*
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stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot.  Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch.
Bingo^^^
We also don't have thousand pound body's on 4 little stick legs, nor do we carry around an extra animal on our backs, or go galumphing around the pasture and get a rock in our shoe that we can't get out... I could go on. Not comparable imo. | |
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stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot.  Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch.
Bingo^^^
We also don't have thousand pound body's on 4 little stick legs, nor do we carry around an extra animal on our backs, or go galumphing around the pasture and get a rock in our shoe that we can't get out... I could go on. Not comparable imo.
Horses are designed yes much different than humans. However, athletes are athletes and all things train and adjust to their "job." Horses have 4 legs instead of two to carry a much bigger body. Obviously its not the same but conditioning is. You train for the job. Some cant handle it. No different than human athletes. My horses stomach health is a lot more important to me than to overload with bute regularly because they "might" be sore. I know my horses very well and can tell when something is off... if something is off or they are on concrete all weekend, I will give a gram of bute but that's it. Pull them if needed.
To each their own but I am also a believer that drugs can cause more harm than good and some serious long-term effects. I focus a lot more on the old school method of good diet and exercise. Make sure they are fit, not overworked, rest when they need it, rub downs after long hauls or something funny in a run. I don't want to rely on meds. I personally don't. | |
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Whiteboy - 2018-10-23 5:11 PM
What about drugs like Reserpine? There are some big trainers that have advocated for it and admit use. Â
Some people need Xanax
Some horses need it as well
Also I want to be clear the types of Clenbuterol or alberterol that barrel racers are using I have absolutely no problem with...
The south of the border race track water "aka compounded clenbuterol" is what I was referring to....
Resperine, Cholorpromazine, Guanzabenz, and Ace (okay so maybe not this one but basically same as a glass of wine ) are all forms of human meds that are actually the most prescribed drug with any health care provider these days. We put performance horses under tremendous pressure, some hold up and some need help. Just like people some hold up and some like me need wine. Like when I read these threads *pours self another glass*
I am not aware that Reserpine was prescribed so often for people, hmmmmmm. Are you sure about that? My sister is a pharmacist so I have access to some pretty solid numbers. | |
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stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot.  Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch.
Bingo^^^
We also don't have thousand pound body's on 4 little stick legs, nor do we carry around an extra animal on our backs, or go galumphing around the pasture and get a rock in our shoe that we can't get out... I could go on. Not comparable imo.
Horses are designed yes much different than humans. However, athletes are athletes and all things train and adjust to their "job." Horses have 4 legs instead of two to carry a much bigger body. Obviously its not the same but conditioning is. You train for the job. Some cant handle it. No different than human athletes. My horses stomach health is a lot more important to me than to overload with bute regularly because they "might" be sore. I know my horses very well and can tell when something is off... if something is off or they are on concrete all weekend, I will give a gram of bute but that's it. Pull them if needed.
To each their own but I am also a believer that drugs can cause more harm than good and some serious long-term effects. I focus a lot more on the old school method of good diet and exercise. Make sure they are fit, not overworked, rest when they need it, rub downs after long hauls or something funny in a run. I don't want to rely on meds. I personally don't.
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stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot.  Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch.
Bingo^^^
We also don't have thousand pound body's on 4 little stick legs, nor do we carry around an extra animal on our backs, or go galumphing around the pasture and get a rock in our shoe that we can't get out... I could go on. Not comparable imo.
Horses are designed yes much different than humans. However, athletes are athletes and all things train and adjust to their "job." Horses have 4 legs instead of two to carry a much bigger body. Obviously its not the same but conditioning is. You train for the job. Some cant handle it. No different than human athletes. My horses stomach health is a lot more important to me than to overload with bute regularly because they "might" be sore. I know my horses very well and can tell when something is off... if something is off or they are on concrete all weekend, I will give a gram of bute but that's it. Pull them if needed.
To each their own but I am also a believer that drugs can cause more harm than good and some serious long-term effects. I focus a lot more on the old school method of good diet and exercise. Make sure they are fit, not overworked, rest when they need it, rub downs after long hauls or something funny in a run. I don't want to rely on meds. I personally don't.
 I trained for my job too. Ergonomics have been stuffed down my throat, yet I come home certain days after practicing hygiene all day and my back hurts, my shoulder hurts. I will take an ibuprofen. I also disagree bec some older horses need help. They are 17 and stuck in a concrete stall all weekend. Not giving some some sort of pain relief is kind of mean. Horses don't always tell us they are in pain... Some are very stoic. No different then my 60 year old mom getting out of a car after a 6 hour drive. Does her taking an ibuprofen make her a handicap and ineligible to run a marathon.... No. When I rodeoed a couple years ago my horses got bute or previcox. 12 hours or more in a trailer per weekend is harder on them then the run itself. | |
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| stayceem - 2018-10-24 8:04 AM WiscoRacer - 2018-10-23 8:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 4:58 PM stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot. Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch. Bingo^^^ We also don't have thousand pound body's on 4 little stick legs, nor do we carry around an extra animal on our backs, or go galumphing around the pasture and get a rock in our shoe that we can't get out... I could go on. Not comparable imo. Horses are designed yes much different than humans. However, athletes are athletes and all things train and adjust to their "job." Horses have 4 legs instead of two to carry a much bigger body. Obviously its not the same but conditioning is. You train for the job. Some cant handle it. No different than human athletes. My horses stomach health is a lot more important to me than to overload with bute regularly because they "might" be sore. I know my horses very well and can tell when something is off... if something is off or they are on concrete all weekend, I will give a gram of bute but that's it. Pull them if needed. To each their own but I am also a believer that drugs can cause more harm than good and some serious long-term effects. I focus a lot more on the old school method of good diet and exercise. Make sure they are fit, not overworked, rest when they need it, rub downs after long hauls or something funny in a run. I don't want to rely on meds. I personally don't.
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stayceem - 2018-10-23 4:07 PM rachellyn80 - 2018-10-23 12:07 PM I personally feel that Bute and Banamine aren't utilized enough.... Posts like this only perpetuate the reasoning that "if they need that to run they shouldn't be running"....Why wouldn't an animal need NSAIDs for recovery after what we ask them to do for us??Â
At any given time we might be seen with a syringe drawn up with Bute, Banamine, B-Complex, Clenbuterol, or Lasix....because I CARE about my horse's soundness and comfort. I do disagree with this. As an athlete (when I was younger ), I relied on good diet and exercise to play sports. Now not to stay something didn't happen that I needed an ibuprofen now and again but it wasn't consistent. I don't see my horses as athletes any different. I workout regularly and use a good electrolyte/muscle recovery supplement (similar to the post workout pastes ) after hard lift days but otherwise I eat well, slowly build myself up before I ask to do anything that's gonna create injury or need for medication.
As it stands, saddles don't always fit, farriers aren't perfect, a little slip can cause great pain, and I like to be a little proactive when I know I've asked them for a lot.  Standing on concrete, running in trashy ground, and hauling around an unbalanced load can cause a lot of soreness that the less observant aren't going to catch.
Bingo^^^
We also don't have thousand pound body's on 4 little stick legs, nor do we carry around an extra animal on our backs, or go galumphing around the pasture and get a rock in our shoe that we can't get out... I could go on. Not comparable imo.
Horses are designed yes much different than humans. However, athletes are athletes and all things train and adjust to their "job." Horses have 4 legs instead of two to carry a much bigger body. Obviously its not the same but conditioning is. You train for the job. Some cant handle it. No different than human athletes. My horses stomach health is a lot more important to me than to overload with bute regularly because they "might" be sore. I know my horses very well and can tell when something is off... if something is off or they are on concrete all weekend, I will give a gram of bute but that's it. Pull them if needed.
To each their own but I am also a believer that drugs can cause more harm than good and some serious long-term effects. I focus a lot more on the old school method of good diet and exercise. Make sure they are fit, not overworked, rest when they need it, rub downs after long hauls or something funny in a run. I don't want to rely on meds. I personally don't. I trained for my job too. Ergonomics have been stuffed down my throat, yet I come home certain days after practicing hygiene all day and my back hurts, my shoulder hurts. I will take an ibuprofen. I also disagree bec some older horses need help. They are 17 and stuck in a concrete stall all weekend. Not giving some some sort of pain relief is kind of mean. Horses don't always tell us they are in pain... Some are very stoic. No different then my 60 year old mom getting out of a car after a 6 hour drive. Does her taking an ibuprofen make her a handicap and ineligible to run a marathon.... No. When I rodeoed a couple years ago my horses got bute or previcox. 12 hours or more in a trailer per weekend is harder on them then the run itself.
I think we are having an argument and yet agreeing to some degree. I agree that if a horse is stalled on concrete all weekend, seems tight in his muscles or has some indication of pain or discomfort then I help where needed. I have a big gelding with various issues and I rub him down with sore no more, he gets massage work before big events and we do a lot of walking. If he seems to be tightening up (usually smaller stall or crappy weather where he gets walked less) then I will give a gram of bute. I practice the same for myself. However, I can also say I can get sore stiff or have some aches and pains and I go for a walk or get moving and I feel LOADS better. After a long day at work where I am seated more than usual, my back will get sore. I don't immediately pop an ibuprofen... I usually get up and go for a walk, do some stretching and ironically enough a workout at the gym or riding makes it literally disappear!!!
Once in awhile, under the right circumstances are not what I am talking about. But those who medicate because they MAY be sore or they COULD have discomfort, I don't believe in over-medicating. A horse doesn't have to be lame to tell you he is sore. I can tell if he is tighter in his muscles, his movement if he is stiff, etc. This is no different than the brutal cold winters where they stand at the roundbale for hours on end. I take them out and walk them 20-30 min, they aren't stocked up anymore and they are moving much better. It may not be obvious to see but I can tell a difference. If I gave bute for every time they could be, might be sore.... they would have some serious gut health issues.
I also believe in building tolerance to medications. So when I take an ibuprofen... it works immediately and I don't need 4 of them. From the science I understand behind any anti-inflammatory drug, they are the same in that way. I had a friends mare battling a very serious DDFT tear and near the end, she was so tolerant to bute, she was having gut issues and they had to keep increasing her dose. I use it as needed. | |
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| oija - 2018-10-24 9:40 AM
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Whiteboy - 2018-10-23 5:11 PM
What about drugs like Reserpine? There are some big trainers that have advocated for it and admit use. Â
Some people need Xanax
Some horses need it as well
Also I want to be clear the types of Clenbuterol or alberterol that barrel racers are using I have absolutely no problem with...
The south of the border race track water "aka compounded clenbuterol" is what I was referring to....
Resperine, Cholorpromazine, Guanzabenz, and Ace (okay so maybe not this one but basically same as a glass of wine ) are all forms of human meds that are actually the most prescribed drug with any health care provider these days. We put performance horses under tremendous pressure, some hold up and some need help. Just like people some hold up and some like me need wine. Like when I read these threads *pours self another glass*
I am not aware that Reserpine was prescribed so often for people, hmmmmmm. Are you sure about that? My sister is a pharmacist so I have access to some pretty solid numbers.
It's prescribed as an autistic, seizure, and bi-polar/ mood evaluating drug. For human purposes there are usually a much better alternatives that are easier on a human's GI tract but they are all the same class or family.
Also I'm not trying to prove Resperine is the most prescribed drug or compare numbers but I worked in health care admin as a insurance quality analyst (we ran reports on personnel and out of 3,500 plus employees the number one prescription drug our healthcare insurance had to pay for were mood stabilizers, bi-oplar meds, depression meds etc.... same stats for police officers or teachers in most urban areas. Point I am making is some humans need mood stabilizers some horses do as well....especially those under pressure to behave perfectly, as we ask our horses to do. I feel like most people never think about the fact that we ask our horses to do everything perfectly. Walk into the arena, always be balanced, always give, no kickng, bolting, rearing, etc...
I feel like most barrel racers always assume pain but by gosh sometimes horses are just horses and they fret being "perfect"
I'm not gonna argue about "natural" and that bull. Barrel racing a horse is not natural....a horse carrying itself balanced and having flexion with us on their back is not natural. They didn't get a choice in those things either for those that feel that they don't have a choice to say no to drugs.
For the lord's sake people horses are not in the DARE program and they don't know it is red ribbon week. *pops Xanax along with wine tonight and shakes head*
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