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| Southtxponygirl - 2019-03-14 5:04 PM
I didnt read all the posts on here and dont keep up with tracks, but what was the time frame of these 22 horses dying? Did they all die within months of each other or did this happen over like say a 5 year period? Like I'm saying I dont watch racing so really dont know..
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| Santa Anita released an open letter today announcing a ban on race-day medications. It seemed to make PETA very happy, however it doesn't address or solve the issue of the main track surface. Sadly, another horse was euthanized today after exercising on the main dirt track, but the article states that 75 horses worked out this morning, and 112 worked yesterday morning, so they're thinking the track itself wasn't the issue with the filly, but it's unclear what the issue was- most likely a horribly timed and terrible fluke. https://www.santaanita.com/press-releases/an-open-letter-about-the-future-of-thoroughbred-racing-in-california/#.XIrkZKBlCrM https://www.chron.com/sports/article/22-horses-dead-Santa-Anita-13689581.php
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Okay...WTH...is wrong if they had a filly put down today? Dont get it... they should be able to figure this out since they have brought some of the best in to figure it out. Dang. |
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| you can only seal a track hard so many times with out having to rip the base up... it has rained more in two months here than it has in at least five years.. they need to fire the guy who is in charge of the ground. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | SKM - 2019-03-07 11:02 AM
Seriously people...just stop. Many of you are voicing opinions that have no merit. It’s not about running 2 year olds. In most cases at Santa Anita...something appears to be off with the surface. They’ve had a lot of rain. The main surface guy left in December. The surface has been there for 9 years. All of the sudden, horses are breaking down left and right. Something is clearly wrong with the surface. Horses aren’t breaking down on the training track. They aren’t breaking down on the turf. It’s pretty much happening on the main dirt track.
A similar thing happened at Arapahoe Park years ago. New surface, record times, following season...lots of horses breaking down. They re-evaluated the surface, changed it, break downs stopped.
We are talking about a horrible situation at Santa Anita that could cost the livelihood of numerous people. The deaths of these horses are horrible and tragic. People losing their incomes is also just as tragic.
I did see where Dr Allred at Los Al has offered his track to help out. For those of you that don’t follow racing, Allred has the toughest drug policies of just about any track in the nation. If a trainer gets suspended an some other track, they aren’t welcome at Los Al.
https://www.speedhorse.com/spotlights/m.blog/101/allred-offers-to-run-santa-anita-race-dates-at-los-alamitos?platform=hootsuite
I have to agree with SKM here. There is something going on with the main track surface. They need to peel that track back and take a really close look at the base. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2019-03-14 5:20 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2019-03-14 5:04 PM
I didnt read all the posts on here and dont keep up with tracks, but what was the time frame of these 22 horses dying? Did they all die within months of each other or did this happen over like say a 5 year period? Like I'm saying I dont watch racing so really dont know..
10 Week span.
Wow that is horrible and now another one was added to that list.. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Just wondering did some trainers have multiple horses that broke down during this time frame of 10 weeks? Just a question so dont flame me for asking..
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Location: Weatherford, TX | total performance - 2019-03-15 7:01 AM SKM - 2019-03-07 11:02 AM Seriously people...just stop. Many of you are voicing opinions that have no merit. It’s not about running 2 year olds. In most cases at Santa Anita...something appears to be off with the surface. They’ve had a lot of rain. The main surface guy left in December. The surface has been there for 9 years. All of the sudden, horses are breaking down left and right. Something is clearly wrong with the surface. Horses aren’t breaking down on the training track. They aren’t breaking down on the turf. It’s pretty much happening on the main dirt track. A similar thing happened at Arapahoe Park years ago. New surface, record times, following season...lots of horses breaking down. They re-evaluated the surface, changed it, break downs stopped. We are talking about a horrible situation at Santa Anita that could cost the livelihood of numerous people. The deaths of these horses are horrible and tragic. People losing their incomes is also just as tragic. I did see where Dr Allred at Los Al has offered his track to help out. For those of you that don’t follow racing, Allred has the toughest drug policies of just about any track in the nation. If a trainer gets suspended an some other track, they aren’t welcome at Los Al. https://www.speedhorse.com/spotlights/m.blog/101/allred-offers-to-run-santa-anita-race-dates-at-los-alamitos?platform=hootsuite I have to agree with SKM here. There is something going on with the main track surface. They need to peel that track back and take a really close look at the base. SKM...I totally, completely agree with you. Something has happened to the surface at some point in time. My point was they need tp try and figure it out before more horses go out there. I know they brought someone (doctorate) in from KY to figure it out too. I completely understand they are trying. Dr. Allred is great from Los Al too. Los Al is a great track and they have standards to adhere to. The more professional help SA can get, the better. I really respect your opinions and didn’t want you to take me wrong at all as I really didn’t know who were addressing. 
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Another horse (#22) was put down yesterday after breaking both front legs while training on that track. |
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| NJJ - 2019-03-15 4:44 PM
Another horse (#22) was put down yesterday after breaking both front legs while training on that track.
It doesn't add up. Why only this track? It it was drugs or meds or training or breeding or whips, it would be more widespread. |
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Location: Arkansas | NJJ - 2019-03-15 4:44 PM
Another horse (#22) was put down yesterday after breaking both front legs while training on that track.
Was this 22nd one on the training track? |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2019-03-15 10:09 PM NJJ - 2019-03-15 4:44 PM Another horse (#22) was put down yesterday after breaking both front legs while training on that track. Was this 22nd one on the training track? It was on the main dirt track, just like the other ones but they’ve had a bunch of horses exercising on it, so I’m not sure what the issue was with this filly. 75 horses worked on it that morning, and one broke down. It seems like they’re deflecting the real issue at hand (the quality of the track) by choosing to ban the race-day medications. I disagree with them banning Lasix, that’s like making an asthmatic run without allowing them the use of their inhaler. That’s a respiratory issue that has nothing to do with broken legs.
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Location: Arizona | San Diego Tribune Article A good article on the situation, IMO. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I just read that they were re-opening the track next Friday (22nd)!
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Since diuretics are known to affect the bone remodeling process...I'd say it is fully relevant to start looking at reducing the administration of such drugs as lasix (and others) to these horses. There are other effects than just what is intended by giving lasix. And in what frequency/dosage they are given. This may not be a popular opinion...but if a horse requires medication to be able to run and win...and the winners are the ones being bred...are we then not just further perpetuating the need for running on drugs? Cut out the medications and perhaps the stronger and more sound individuals will be the ones in the breeding shed and strengthening the breed. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | And the deaths continue ...... 26th racehorse dies at Santa Anita track in 5 months |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2019-05-30 10:34 AM
And the deaths continue ......
26th racehorse dies at Santa Anita track in 5 months
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2019-05-30 10:44 AM
NJJ - 2019-05-30 10:34 AM
And the deaths continue ......
26th racehorse dies at Santa Anita track in 5 months
Holy cow!!! So sad, poor babys
When you say babies that's a fact. My biggest problem with horse racing is asking horses that are not even two years old yet to struggle with the rigors of the track. Many are crippled early and many die. There are also a lot of contagious diseases at the track that youngsters don't handle well. |
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| Most are fully matured horses like this last one was 9 years old and had run an avg of 7 races over 7 years. I hope they are using some very sensitive equipment to see if there are some rubber legged drugs still present ... There are sure a lot of real estate developers wanting that over looking the ocean piece of property!! |
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