https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/the-stewards-were-right-but-the-system-is-wrong/

Here is the article I was talking about yesterday. I thought it was interesting in that it explained the Level 1 vs Level 2 rules. 

Not saying I agree with the author of this article that the 'system is wrong,' I'm only sharing for the explanation of the rules.

What the eff are you talking about?  Where was President Trump mentioned anywhere in this?  I have experienced "politics" at the racetrack. It happens.  When you have a rich askhole whose horse can run all over the track but a nobody's horse gets taken down for "intimidating the field" for crossing paths way ahead of anyone else.  That's political.  It happens all the time.  

not true   the best horse lost by his own error of moving over     he fouled its over and done with no politics involved

dam sounds li hilary complaining she had the election stolen from her 2 years ago.

"The election was stolen from me.  It was Trump's fault."  (her latest whine)

I was thinking the exact same thing vjls.

Oh now Nancy calm down

I was wondering where the President was mentioned, or had anything to do with this, myself....

Trump put out a tweet claiming that, in his opinion, the call to DQ Maximum Security was a bad one.  Of course Mecon had to jump on that because that's what libs do.......it's a full time job.  

Well MOST people who haven't been around the track don't know that that type of interference by one horse on another can cause a catestrophic accident.  All those horses could have fallen, horses and riders being hurt or killed.  Just go on social media and you will get lots of armchair jockeys saying this was not a correct call. Those who know say otherwise. 

I can understand Baffert's frustration.  We've had horses on the track too and there's nothing more exciting then having your horse declared the winner...... to have that call taken back would be miserable.  Baffert's in the business.  He knows the ups and downs and probably knows this was a fair call but he also knows his owners don't want him to concede.  It would be a sure way to lose these high-dollar owners especially if they plan to pursue a lawsuit.  Not sure I understand pulling out of the Preakness.  Jump back in there guys.   

Ahhh gotcha. I mean, I guess he's entitled to his opinion - right or wrong - like the rest of the world's couch jockeys out there, eh? 

But yeah, of course Mecon had to make it political.

i am surprised no one has brought the  video of kids in phill

It is briefly mentioned in the article but needs to be stated more- Baffert is also biased; he trains another one of the West's horses (and probably more). He's the only one of the Derby trainers that have been interviewed to say that it was a wrong call.

But there’s no inquiry. I talked to the stewards about three minutes after the race and I asked - this is word for word - I said `sir, I just have a couple of questions because I’ve got an owner asking questions.’ I said `who claimed foul?’ They said the 20, who finished second. I said, `how did I get put back to 18th?’ They said `because you bothered the 17 horse.’ I said `OK, and there was just one foul claim?’ And they said yes. I said `who am I speaking with, sir?’ He said `you’re on the speakerphone and you’re speaking to all three of us.’ I said `thank you.’
"Then during the press conference it comes out that there were two foul claims. I could see one of them making a mistake, but all three? They told me there was one foul claim, the horse that finished second. There were some things that happened. Why wasn’t there an inquiry? Why did they say there was only one foul claim. Maybe they called Court, `you want to claim foul, maybe you were bothered?’ or something. I don’t know. There are too many things that were unsettling.’’   

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/trainer-still-furious-about-maximum-security-dq-in-kentucky-derby-belmont-stakes-next/ar-AAB58r7?ocid=spartanntp  

I have read so many accounts of this and who raised the objection, I've heard that both War of Will and the one with Toddy in the name raised the objection and Country House didn't...I have also heard Country House did as well. Does it really matter, as others have said?

Why the horse fouled, I don't know. But only those who don't know horse racing would disagree with the stewards call on this. Rewatching the race, it is evidently clear to me that the horse interfered. The wreck that could have been caused would have been tremendous and devastating. I see no politics involved in this call at all...only good sense. 

As per the stewards of Churchill Downs, the jockeys of 18 (Long Range Toddy), Jon Court, and 20 (Country House), Flavien Prat made the objections.

I'm not saying it was a good or bad call, but I do trust the judgment of the stewards who made it. I was at a party where a lot of people were upset by it, I wasn't thrilled by it but I can also see from a safety perspective. And the second he started moving out that jockey made a solid effort to keep him from going farther and to get back to the rail. What I heard from the upset people were two things #1: It was an accidental thing & wasn't anyones fault or intentional & the jockey tried to minimize it the best he could...and #2 that its not fair they can bounce off each other like ping pong balls on other parts of the track, but not on others. If that had happened 50 feet from the starting gate no one would have said a word. And I did see one interview with either the owner or trainer of country house, who said if it was any other race no one woul have contested it. I really don't think he cared either way what the outcome was and even said he didn't feel his horse was affected by the move. Heck given dry track none of those horses probably would have even been anywhere near the front with Maximum Security & they probably realized that & arguing it was their only way to get the highest placing  

LOUISVILLE COURIER JOURNAL ANALYZES 2019 KENTUCKY DERBY WITH NEW HEADON AND SIDE VIEWS AND SHOW PLAINLY MAXIMUM SECURITY WAS NOT AT FAULT ... 

THE TWO CULPRITS ARE WAR OF WILL RUNNING UP ON MS AND COUNTRY HOUSE CROWDING THE FIELD TO PUT EVERYONE IN JEOPARDY  ... 

MEANWHILE MAXIMUM SECURITY MOVED OUT OF THE TROUBLE ZONE AND CONTINUED TO RACE FOR HOME .. 

VERY GOOD VIDEO AND ANALYSIS ... WITH CAPTIONS AND REWINDS AND EVEN TRACK ANNOUNCER RACE CALL IS SHOWN .. 

I have slow internet and my wifi cuts on and off so hoping you guys get a real good constant viewing of the entire race ... the good part is right before the 4th turn to run home .. 

This is what the lazy stewards should have taken the time to do rather than showing their favortisim for certain riders, owners and trainers .. 

https://www.courier-journal.com/videos/sports/horses/kentucky-derby/2019/05/10/kentucky-derby-2019-video-disputed-disqualification-luis-suez/1165620001/    

LET'S TRY TO GET A LIVE LINK ...   https://www.courier-journal.com/videos/sports/horses/kentucky-derby/...  

I read that they suspended MS's jockey today???

You are so right!!

This is beginning to really stink like DC politics ... just keep dishing out distractions instead of dealing with the cause and effect that created the incident .. 

Keep in mind the chief steward is a political appointee and the other two mice are not going to blow any whistles and lose their jobs by disagreeing with the powers that be .... 

I'm sure each of us have been in situations that no matter what you said, evidence or witnesses or videos you produced you were ignored because the ruling authorities were not going to be challenged even after making  the wrong decisions ...