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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-12 9:47 AM
Subject: RE: Here we go again. . . .


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Well heck lets just look at the bright side of all this.  If we live thru it there may actually be money for social security since we are killing off all the old folks.  I hope some you self centered people who know everything, don't like your parents or grand parents very well.  My fear isn't dying from it, it would actually be paying all those hospital bills if I live, and I have insurance.

I think it's a sad state of affairs the President who rallied everyday sometimes 4x a day, and told you all it was just going to all go away after the election, is in hiding.  It appears he is being President by Tweet again and he's on a roll.  Many of you should go help him out on his tweet threads they are killing him with "You're Fired" and he could use the support.

If you look at the numbers it appears the states he held rallies in have very high numbers, followed by many red states.   With exception of IL & CA, they have lots of crazies.  To those who said every state should be like SD, please check out how many active cases SD & ND have per population.  They really don't look that good.

You all go rally around the Proud Boys and keep insisting he won, you may find out the silent majority is not as passive as you thought.  I think the longer he keeps acting like a toddler the more people realize how crazy he is.  My amazement is how many people think he's great, he has divided and turned this country into a bunch of crazy people.  I Think voting again is a great thing, since he's had so many rallies many could be sick or dead.  I think the man just loves to rally, seems to be the only part of the job he is interested in.

I thought Mike Pence changing his vacation plans wash rich..... did he change them because of the hurricane, to please Trump?  He sure didn't change it to work on that wonderful Task Force for the virus that was going to just go away.   Man that was a good plan.  Has he done any work lately beside rally?

Personally I am so happy he lost.  I think for the benefit of trying to raise children with him as President it's a wonderful thing.  I can't imagine trying to tell your kid not to be a bully when you have one on TV everyday calling people names and being an a$$, it's a real benefit.  The fact that she has a "Be Best" campaign is a roit.  JMO  

I also think the republicans not standing up to him is amazing.  Ever wonder how Lindsey Graham can go from saying he's "Bat $hit crazy" to support him?   I bet he hides cameras in his hotel rooms just like Putin.  I'm so proud of Mitt Romney it would have been so much better if he had won.

Flame away, it's a slow day.

 



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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2020-11-12 9:48 AM
Subject: RE: Here we go again. . . .



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Bear - 2020-11-11 9:10 PM


SC Wrangler - 2020-11-11 8:03 PM



1DSoon - 2020-11-11 6:43 PM


SC Wrangler - 2020-11-11 7:12 PM


caspersabelpip - 2020-11-11 5:00 PM


caspersabelpip - 2020-11-10 6:24 AM


Bear - 2020-11-09 11:07 PM


caspersabelpip - 2020-11-09 9:18 PM


Surgeries being cancelled because there are no beds available to recover in shows there is a problem that needs to be dealt with. I work as a public health nurse in utah and things are not looking good for our state. 



Absolutely, that is true,and it's been going on across the country since March.  Elective surgery has a huge backlog, and other elective procedures have been shut down.....including colonoscopies, stress testing, mammograms, etc..,  In many instances, elective operations, screenings, etc.... end up leading to life threatening situations.  Those elective gall bladder operations can go from having a mortality risk of under 1-2% to a mortality risk closer to 30-40%.  


The good news is we know much more than we did 8 months ago, and we have better therapeutics and a vaccine that should be available very soon.  We have to improvise, adapt, and overcome.  We will. 



Yes I agree our ability to treat COVID has improved. The last couple of weeks at work have been rough. The big numbers of positive COVID we are getting in my rural county are overwhelming my small health department. We are having a hard time keeping up with contact tracing and all the other additional duties COVID has created. It has also been hard on a personal level.  My neighbor I have bought hay from for the last 10 years just died of COVID. Another neighbor who is one of my best friends dad is also hospitalized and is on a ventilator from COVID. The last update I got on him was not good.  



Just found out about an hour ago my other neighbor hospitalized for COVID-19 passed away. ??



As much as some want to minimize the situation, this pandemic is is very, very real and raging.  It is easy to point out that most do not get really ill and recover with out incident.  I realize that many those who have died had underlying health issues, but the fact remains that they would have still been alive if they had not caught covid.  I doubt that the loved ones of nearly a quarter million fellow Americans find any solicev in any of those facts.  


A friend of 40+ years passed away last week.  She spent almost 2mos in the hospital. She was on a vent and ecmo bypass.  4 weeks in she rallied and actually came off the vent.  She seemed to be making progress and  then suddenly started to go down hill.  She declined to go back on the vent and passed within 24 hours.   Her husband who had many health issues only had a few days of cold type symptoms and recovered completely.  You just never know who will be effected how.  


 


 


 


 



for every anecdote like that there is the other side like mine. 

Everyone in my immediate family has had it and brushed it off like the common cold. 

My 80ish year old parents now have it and my dad was mowing and my mom was working her garden this afternoon. 


 


It's real, it's also no more serious than the flu. 


 


fact



In my world 250,000 dead folks is not anecdotal.  Nor is the flu mortality rate comparable to this pandemic.  Remind me when the flu has ever put ICU beds at or near capacity all over this country.



I can't speak for 1D, but you used an anecdote and he countered with his anecdote. He didn't say 250,000 deaths was anecdotal. In his family's experience, Covid was like having the flu.  Covid19 is more contagious than Swine flu, but Swine Flu was actually deadlier than Covid19 in kids.  Over 80% of the deaths from H1N1 were under 65, whereas over 80% of Covid19 deaths were in people over 65.  All I can say is if the vaccine is as effective as they claim, any credit will eventually be given to "Operation Warp Speed".  We've never ever even come close to developing an effective vaccine to a NOVEL ("new") virus this quickly at any time in history. 


If the vaccinne is as effective as they claim, will it be the "cure all" for lack of better words- to get the country opened back up and ditch the masks? 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 10:40 AM
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Palopony - 2020-11-12 9:47 AM


Well heck lets just look at the bright side of all this.  If we live thru it there may actually be money for social security since we are killing off all the old folks.  I hope some you self centered people who know everything, don't like your parents or grand parents very well.  My fear isn't dying from it, it would actually be paying all those hospital bills if I live, and I have insurance.


I think it's a sad state of affairs the President who rallied everyday sometimes 4x a day, and told you all it was just going to all go away after the election, is in hiding.  It appears he is being President by Tweet again and he's on a roll.  Many of you should go help him out on his tweet threads they are killing him with "You're Fired" and he could use the support.


If you look at the numbers it appears the states he held rallies in have very high numbers, followed by many red states.   With exception of IL & CA, they have lots of crazies.  To those who said every state should be like SD, please check out how many active cases SD & ND have per population.  They really don't look that good.


You all go rally around the Proud Boys and keep insisting he won, you may find out the silent majority is not as passive as you thought.  I think the longer he keeps acting like a toddler the more people realize how crazy he is.  My amazement is how many people think he's great, he has divided and turned this country into a bunch of crazy people.  I Think voting again is a great thing, since he's had so many rallies many could be sick or dead.  I think the man just loves to rally, seems to be the only part of the job he is interested in.


I thought Mike Pence changing his vacation plans wash rich..... did he change them because of the hurricane, to please Trump?  He sure didn't change it to work on that wonderful Task Force for the virus that was going to just go away.   Man that was a good plan.  Has he done any work lately beside rally?


Personally I am so happy he lost.  I think for the benefit of trying to raise children with him as President it's a wonderful thing.  I can't imagine trying to tell your kid not to be a bully when you have one on TV everyday calling people names and being an a$$, it's a real benefit.  The fact that she has a "Be Best" campaign is a roit.  JMO  


I also think the republicans not standing up to him is amazing.  Ever wonder how Lindsey Graham can go from saying he's "Bat $hit crazy" to support him?   I bet he hides cameras in his hotel rooms just like Putin.  I'm so proud of Mitt Romney it would have been so much better if he had won.


Flame away, it's a slow day.


 


Normally, I would be more than happy to dissect your rant and "flame away" as you put it. I just would like to know who, specifically, you were referring to when you said "some of you self-centered people".  Care to name names?  I'd like to know who these self-centered people are, and why you label them as such.  

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-12 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: Here we go again. . . .


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I will answer..... people who think it's a hoax,

people who think wearing a mask is taking away their freedoms

people who attend rallies & protests, celebrations to infect other people.

people who harass others for what they think about the virus

people with no respect for other peoples space

I could go on but I think this will do

ETA:  People who are asymptomatc and choose to go out and to work because after they don't feel bad so why should they care about other people.

I really don't care if you do all the above things IF you stay to yourself and don't go around infecting other people.  If you are a hermit and want to protest and go home alone to stay or die.  I'm fine with that, just don't go to work, school or the grocery store.  JMO



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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2020-11-12 11:33 AM
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Palopony - 2020-11-12 11:48 AM


I will answer..... people who think it's a hoax,


people who think wearing a mask is taking away their freedoms


people who attend rallies & protests, celebrations to infect other people.


people who harass others for what they think about the virus


people with no respect for other peoples space


I could go on but I think this will do


ETA:  People who are asymptomatc and choose to go out and to work because after they don't feel bad so why should they care about other people.


I really don't care if you do all the above things IF you stay to yourself and don't go around infecting other people.  If you are a hermit and want to protest and go home alone to stay or die.  I'm fine with that, just don't go to work, school or the grocery store.  JMO


have you ever really thought what would happen shutting down country

 

no food in several days  no truck drivers to pu del as then they have to have fuel etc  talk about killing and riots

 oh power goes off no line men

 

get really its here lesn to live with it  we tried that shut down crap  look what that did  nothing

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-12 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: Here we go again. . . .


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I never said a word about shutting down the country.  I do see that other countries that did follow the shut down (instead of only 1/2 the country believeing it was real) doing a lot better than we are.  I know the Canadians seem to be doing better.  Also in reading RV forums the prices of pretty good medical care in Mexico is unreal, no wonder so many Canadians vacation there, they can afford care.  Is that why so many people in TX don't need health insurance?  Do they just go to Mexico?

I don't have the answers, just seems we have a problem no one is very concerned about.

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Reg. Jul 2005
Posted 2020-11-12 12:17 PM
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Palopony - 2020-11-12 11:58 AM


I never said a word about shutting down the country.  I do see that other countries that did follow the shut down (instead of only 1/2 the country believeing it was real) doing a lot better than we are.  I know the Canadians seem to be doing better.  Also in reading RV forums the prices of pretty good medical care in Mexico is unreal, no wonder so many Canadians vacation there, they can afford care.  Is that why so many people in TX don't need health insurance?  Do they just go to Mexico?


I don't have the answers, just seems we have a problem no one is very concerned about.


Canadians have socialized medicine. So I guess they're going to Mexico so they don't have to wait 3 years for an elective surgery.

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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-11-12 12:32 PM
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Imho it is extremely naive and irresponsible to downplay the pandemic at this point.  I hope the vaccine/vaccines are everything they are purported to be, but we are months and months from seeing any benefit from them.  In the meantime public health strategies need to be employed in an attempt to mitigate this out if control situation.  

I never cease to be amazed at all the people who pay lip service to the sanctity of life yet cannot be inconvenienced to wear a mask or social distance in an attempt to save a few.  Nobody likes masks but seriously suck it up and get over it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 12:45 PM
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Palopony - 2020-11-12 10:48 AM


I will answer..... people who think it's a hoax,


people who think wearing a mask is taking away their freedoms


people who attend rallies & protests, celebrations to infect other people.


people who harass others for what they think about the virus


people with no respect for other peoples space


I could go on but I think this will do


ETA:  People who are asymptomatc and choose to go out and to work because after they don't feel bad so why should they care about other people.


I really don't care if you do all the above things IF you stay to yourself and don't go around infecting other people.  If you are a hermit and want to protest and go home alone to stay or die.  I'm fine with that, just don't go to work, school or the grocery store.  JMO


Covid19 was no hoax.  China is to blame one way or another.  You need to refresh your selective memory regarding the MSM's initial response to it.  You also need to refresh your memory about leading Democrat's initial stances on the pandemic.....Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo, et al.  Democrats eventually seized upon it and used it as a political weapon throughout the campaign, even though the only thing they would have done differently was more strict restrictions/shutdowns and mask mandates.   You are quick to blame Trump rallies for spreading Covid, but you omit the fact that hundreds of thousands of BLM and Antifa protesters were elbow to elbow rioting, looting, burning Democrat governed cities. You also turned a blind eye to maskless crowds in post election celebrations in those same cities across the country...."to infect other people" (your words).  You have a selective foolhardy contempt for "people who harass other for what they think about the virus", but no mention of the loons rioting, burning, calling for defunding the police, and tearing down statues. 
You made a comment about Governor Noem in SD and tried to suggest her leadership is to blame for Covid in SD.  Again, your cherry picking is laughable.  Have you looked at the states with the highest death rates, per capita?  NY and NJ have had some of the strictest lockdowns and mask policies, yet they have THREE times the death rate of SD per capita.  Trump pulled out all the stops and mobilized the military to provide thousands of hospital beds to NY last April-May.  And another thing....what's with this twisted remark about elderly dying and social security?  It was Cuomo who condemned thousands of elderly to die with his nursing home mandate.  Instead of using all those beds we provided to NY at amazing speed, he forced Covid19 patients into nursing homes.  Explain that one.....you won't.  You can't. All you can come up with is the predictable "whataboutism". 
As to Canada, you are comparing apples and oranges.  


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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 12:47 PM
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Palopony - 2020-11-12 11:58 AM


I never said a word about shutting down the country.  I do see that other countries that did follow the shut down (instead of only 1/2 the country believeing it was real) doing a lot better than we are.  I know the Canadians seem to be doing better.  Also in reading RV forums the prices of pretty good medical care in Mexico is unreal, no wonder so many Canadians vacation there, they can afford care.  Is that why so many people in TX don't need health insurance?  Do they just go to Mexico?


I don't have the answers, just seems we have a problem no one is very concerned about.



Canadians have socialized medicine. So I guess they're going to Mexico so they don't have to wait 3 years for an elective surgery.


perfect answer

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 12:49 PM
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SC Wrangler - 2020-11-12 12:32 PM


Imho it is extremely naive and irresponsible to downplay the pandemic at this point.  I hope the vaccine/vaccines are everything they are purported to be, but we are months and months from seeing any benefit from them.  In the meantime public health strategies need to be employed in an attempt to mitigate this out if control situation.  


I never cease to be amazed at all the people who pay lip service to the sanctity of life yet cannot be inconvenienced to wear a mask or social distance in an attempt to save a few.  Nobody likes masks but seriously suck it up and get over it.


 


 


 


 


 


 


Oh you needn't worry.  Once the Biden administration takes over, the media will swoon over his leadership in conquering Covid.  Bank on it.

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 12:54 PM
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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-12 1:08 PM
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Bear - 2020-11-12 1:45 PM


Palopony - 2020-11-12 10:48 AM


I will answer..... people who think it's a hoax,


people who think wearing a mask is taking away their freedoms


people who attend rallies & protests, celebrations to infect other people.


people who harass others for what they think about the virus


people with no respect for other peoples space


I could go on but I think this will do


ETA:  People who are asymptomatc and choose to go out and to work because after they don't feel bad so why should they care about other people.


I really don't care if you do all the above things IF you stay to yourself and don't go around infecting other people.  If you are a hermit and want to protest and go home alone to stay or die.  I'm fine with that, just don't go to work, school or the grocery store.  JMO



Covid19 was no hoax.  China is to blame one way or another.  You need to refresh your selective memory regarding the MSM's initial response to it.  You also need to refresh your memory about leading Democrat's initial stances on the pandemic.....Pelosi, Schumer, Cuomo, et al.  Democrats eventually seized upon it and used it as a political weapon throughout the campaign, even though the only thing they would have done differently was more strict restrictions/shutdowns and mask mandates.   You are quick to blame Trump rallies for spreading Covid, but you omit the fact that hundreds of thousands of BLM and Antifa protesters were elbow to elbow rioting, looting, burning Democrat governed cities. You also turned a blind eye to maskless crowds in post election celebrations in those same cities across the country...."to infect other people" (your words).  You have a selective foolhardy contempt for "people who harass other for what they think about the virus", but no mention of the loons rioting, burning, calling for defunding the police, and tearing down statues. 
You made a comment about Governor Noem in SD and tried to suggest her leadership is to blame for Covid in SD.  Again, your cherry picking is laughable.  Have you looked at the states with the highest death rates, per capita?  NY and NJ have had some of the strictest lockdowns and mask policies, yet they have THREE times the death rate of SD per capita.  Trump pulled out all the stops and mobilized the military to provide thousands of hospital beds to NY last April-May.  And another thing....what's with this twisted remark about elderly dying and social security?  It was Cuomo who condemned thousands of elderly to die with his nursing home mandate.  Instead of using all those beds we provided to NY at amazing speed, he forced Covid19 patients into nursing homes.  Explain that one.....you won't.  You can't. All you can come up with is the predictable "whataboutism". 
As to Canada, you are comparing apples and oranges.  



Apparently you didn't read the highlighted part, I thought I said it pretty plain.

Most people on here seem OK (you included) with the old people dying, after all you said they have preexisting conditions.

I sure feel sorry for those young people with preexisting conditions.

 

As for the high death rate up east most of it happened in the very beginning when we got nothing but conflicting information, if we got any at all from the powers that be.  As for Nancy partying in Chinatown she was trying to convince people that eating in places owned by immigrants from China was OK.  Was it?  I don't know it was pretty early everyone was still going everywhere.  I really don't care.  I think if the President would have taken the virus seriously so would many others.  However having watched a lot of his rallies he did not at all.

You know he made fun of reporters wearing masks, said he couldn't hear them.  Mark Meadows refused.... karma.  I feel sorry for Ben Carson but he was a Trump fan.

I think when you know better you do better and I don't think this President did that at all.

As for all those temp beds in NY, better send them down to TX.  I hope your Govenor fusses so much he does something because I hear El Paso is getting pretty full.  I guess we can wait and see on the Dakotas they are climbing daily.

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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2020-11-12 1:16 PM
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Bear - 2020-11-12 12:49 PM


SC Wrangler - 2020-11-12 12:32 PM


Imho it is extremely naive and irresponsible to downplay the pandemic at this point.  I hope the vaccine/vaccines are everything they are purported to be, but we are months and months from seeing any benefit from them.  In the meantime public health strategies need to be employed in an attempt to mitigate this out if control situation.  


I never cease to be amazed at all the people who pay lip service to the sanctity of life yet cannot be inconvenienced to wear a mask or social distance in an attempt to save a few.  Nobody likes masks but seriously suck it up and get over it.


 


 


 


 


 


 



Oh you needn't worry.  Once the Biden administration takes over, the media will swoon over his leadership in conquering Covid.  Bank on it.


One thing about it, we can count on you to keep it political.  Right now the world's most advanced country has results worse than a third world country.  Obviously it is not going away " like things just go away" so the stick your head in the sand strategy is failing.

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 1:26 PM
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SC Wrangler - 2020-11-12 1:16 PM


Bear - 2020-11-12 12:49 PM


SC Wrangler - 2020-11-12 12:32 PM


Imho it is extremely naive and irresponsible to downplay the pandemic at this point.  I hope the vaccine/vaccines are everything they are purported to be, but we are months and months from seeing any benefit from them.  In the meantime public health strategies need to be employed in an attempt to mitigate this out if control situation.  


I never cease to be amazed at all the people who pay lip service to the sanctity of life yet cannot be inconvenienced to wear a mask or social distance in an attempt to save a few.  Nobody likes masks but seriously suck it up and get over it.


 


 


 


 


 


 



Oh you needn't worry.  Once the Biden administration takes over, the media will swoon over his leadership in conquering Covid.  Bank on it.



One thing about it, we can count on you to keep it political.  Right now the world's most advanced country has results worse than a third world country.  Obviously it is not going away " like things just go away" so the stick your head in the sand strategy is failing.


Bless your heart.  You need to have your memory refreshed as well, I see.  It was your party that seized on the political opportunities due to this pandemic.  

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-12 1:39 PM
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Bear - 2020-11-12 1:47 PM


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Palopony - 2020-11-12 11:58 AM


I never said a word about shutting down the country.  I do see that other countries that did follow the shut down (instead of only 1/2 the country believeing it was real) doing a lot better than we are.  I know the Canadians seem to be doing better.  Also in reading RV forums the prices of pretty good medical care in Mexico is unreal, no wonder so many Canadians vacation there, they can afford care.  Is that why so many people in TX don't need health insurance?  Do they just go to Mexico?


I don't have the answers, just seems we have a problem no one is very concerned about.



Canadians have socialized medicine. So I guess they're going to Mexico so they don't have to wait 3 years for an elective surgery.



perfect answer


Well someone please enlighten me on Canada's medical care.  Seems they have lost 10,745 people to COVID and are 31st on the list on countries.  Where as we are sure winning and TX has lost 19,573.  Is Canada bigger than TX?   I guess Canadian healthcare is better than what you have in TX.

Or do you just have sicker people?

Please explain..........

At least they won't lose their house or life savings over it.

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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 1:41 PM
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Palopony, you said, "Most people on here seem OK (you included) with the old people dying, after all you said they have preexisting conditions."  What makes you come to this conclusion?  That's just ugly.  You are saying most people on BHW are OK with the old people dying.  Shame on you.  Seriously.  

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Palopony
Reg. Feb 2006
Posted 2020-11-12 1:48 PM
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Bear - 2020-11-12 2:41 PM

Palopony, you said, "Most people on here seem OK (you included) with the old people dying, after all you said they have preexisting conditions."  What makes you come to this conclusion?  That's just ugly.  You are saying most people on BHW are OK with the old people dying.  Shame on you.  Seriously.  

I did NOT say that.   I said most people on here...... You and 1dsoon, STXpony, are the ones who keep saying it's no big deal.  Seems like most on here know someone who has had it and was not big deal.  I know people who have gotten really sick and died.

 

Don't put words in my mouth.  I have begged people to take this seriously since they cancelled Houston all because of that Liberal Democrat mayor you all said not me.

Answer my question about Canada vs TX please?

ETA:  I am old people and I'm not ok with.   



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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2020-11-12 2:05 PM
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Palopony - 2020-11-12 1:39 PM


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Palopony - 2020-11-12 11:58 AM


I never said a word about shutting down the country.  I do see that other countries that did follow the shut down (instead of only 1/2 the country believeing it was real) doing a lot better than we are.  I know the Canadians seem to be doing better.  Also in reading RV forums the prices of pretty good medical care in Mexico is unreal, no wonder so many Canadians vacation there, they can afford care.  Is that why so many people in TX don't need health insurance?  Do they just go to Mexico?


I don't have the answers, just seems we have a problem no one is very concerned about.



Canadians have socialized medicine. So I guess they're going to Mexico so they don't have to wait 3 years for an elective surgery.



perfect answer



Well someone please enlighten me on Canada's medical care.  Seems they have lost 10,745 people to COVID and are 31st on the list on countries.  Where as we are sure winning and TX has lost 19,573.  Is Canada bigger than TX?   I guess Canadian healthcare is better than what you have in TX.


Or do you just have sicker people?


Please explain..........


At least they won't lose their house or life savings over it.


Comparing healthcare in Canada vs the US is a huge topic, and we've gone there over the years.  If you want to know why their death rates from Covid19 is lower than the US, one reason is that the US has many many more densely populated urban areas. Overall, the US is ten times more densely populated. 

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Palopony
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Posted 2020-11-12 2:10 PM
Subject: RE: Here we go again. . . .


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I realize that which is why I compared them to TX.  I find it amazing that Canada has less cases and deaths than either FL or TX over the last 2 days.  Makes me not want to go look at how other countries are doing compared to us.  IMO that really says something about our medical care and that Canada's is not as crappy as we are told.  I wish some Canadians would speak up.  I realize he usually won't let you.  I really don't hear many Canadians fuss about it or people on medicare.  



Edited by Palopony 2020-11-12 2:13 PM
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