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| CYA Ranch - 2015-02-10 9:43 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-02-10 8:47 PM Leo - 2015-02-10 9:39 PM SG. - 2015-02-10 8:30 PM Leo - 2015-02-10 8:27 PM This is freaking me out!! just saying.... We all need to be educated on this and speak up about seperate mills for our horses I know, it's just the thought that this could possibly be the culprit for all the 'colicy' horses over the years. Being poisoned and no one knowing any better. Just makes me sick to my stomach. I've lost one to colic and got a baby right now who has 'belly problems'. I recently switched to Nutrena SafeChoice and even though they assure me that my feed comes from an ionophore free mill, I can't help but wonder if I didn't just trade one evil for another. I used to feed TC, but had big issues with the consistency. Beginning to think Renew Gold with Chaffehay might just be the way to go. I need to buy feed tomorrow....I pretty much don't know what to buy and it's stressing me out...
I have not fed a grain in years but added safe choice this winter for my older retired hard keeper- (side note- he does not look near as good on grain as when he was on renew gold and beet pulp, he was leaving a lot of the beet pulp which is why I put him on grain for the winter). Again BHW has led to better education and better decisions. I am going to take him off the grain and try chaffhaye. Hope your feed was not the cause of his issues, but like others have said, I bet contamination has effected more horses than we will ever know. |
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 Poor Cracker Girl
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | In 20 pages of stuff, has anybody kept a list of ionophore-free mills/feed companies? How about a sticky with a list for quick reference?
I feed Seminole Wellness and Seminole Xcelerace all made in an ionophore free facility in lovely Ocala, Florida.  |
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Location: Florida.. | TrackinBubba - 2015-02-11 10:53 AM In 20 pages of stuff, has anybody kept a list of ionophore-free mills/feed companies? How about a sticky with a list for quick reference?
I feed Seminole Wellness and Seminole Xcelerace all made in an ionophore free facility in lovely Ocala, Florida.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Here is another article - we all need to keep sharing.
http://www.paulickreport.com/horse-care-category/nutrition/what-happened-here-causes-of-feed-contamination/ |
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Location: Here | Bibliafarm - 2015-02-11 10:01 AM TrackinBubba - 2015-02-11 10:53 AM In 20 pages of stuff, has anybody kept a list of ionophore-free mills/feed companies? How about a sticky with a list for quick reference?
I feed Seminole Wellness and Seminole Xcelerace all made in an ionophore free facility in lovely Ocala, Florida.
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| TrackinBubba - 2015-02-11 9:53 AM
In 20 pages of stuff, has anybody kept a list of ionophore-free mills/feed companies? How about a sticky with a list for quick reference?
I feed Seminole Wellness and Seminole Xcelerace all made in an ionophore free facility in lovely Ocala, Florida.
I emailed purina and they answered me that "most" of their mills were ionophores FREE. however there are 4 mills that do mix cattle feed with ionophores and horse feed is made there as well. I'm waiting for an answer back on which 4 mills do this practice. I don't feed purina but I have several friends that do. |
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 Cute Little Imp
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Location: N Texas | Sorry if this is a repeat: I spoke to Leah at the ADM facility in Comanche, Texas. She told me that they use the same machines for the medicated feed as they do the horse feed. Of course she assured me that they follow strict guidelines for cleaning the machines between processes, but we all know how reliable that can be. So it looks like I'll now be finding a different feed since I've been feeding the PrimeGLO that is manufactured in that facility. |
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| Someone mentioned it before that Mr. Hartley with ADM was following this thread. I know a few other feed manufacturers are to. When I talked to Triple Crown they already had read through all the pages. SOunds like we are causing a big stir! Good! |
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Cute Little Imp
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Location: N Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-11 11:43 AM
Someone mentioned it before that Mr. Hartley with ADM was following this thread. I know a few other feed manufacturers are to. When I talked to Triple Crown they already had read through all the pages. SOunds like we are causing a big stir! Good!
Good! I just sent them an email informing them that I will no longer be buying any of their products because they use the same machines for horse and medicated feed. It's really disappointing because I really liked their feed :( |
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Location: Here | Gunner11 - 2015-02-11 11:22 AM Sorry if this is a repeat: I spoke to Leah at the ADM facility in Comanche, Texas. She told me that they use the same machines for the medicated feed as they do the horse feed. Of course she assured me that they follow strict guidelines for cleaning the machines between processes, but we all know how reliable that can be. So it looks like I'll now be finding a different feed since I've been feeding the PrimeGLO that is manufactured in that facility.
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| When it comes to using the same machines for horse feed and ionophores...these companies need to realize the "safeguards" are only as good as their worst employee. People screw up. It happens. I'll be ****ed if I trust my horses health to their so called "safeguard" practices. |
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Warrior Mom
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| SKM - 2015-02-11 12:07 PM
When it comes to using the same machines for horse feed and ionophores...these companies need to realize the "safeguards" are only as good as their worst employee. People screw up. It happens. I'll be ****ed if I trust my horses health to their so called "safeguard" practices.
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Location: Here | SKM - 2015-02-11 12:07 PM When it comes to using the same machines for horse feed and ionophores...these companies need to realize the "safeguards" are only as good as their worst employee. People screw up. It happens. I'll be ****ed if I trust my horses health to their so called "safeguard" practices.
I won't either I am moving on to another feed.... I really don't like the attitude of ADM either at this point. I am getting the feeling these feed companies have known the potential for a problem and just decided oh well, horse people are just dumb. |
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Hugs to You
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Another person I know had a conversation with an ADM representative. He assured her that all of this was being blown out of proportion by FB and web pages...................................
They still don't get it. Her response to him was - if you knew that you were feeding your kid posion, would you continue to do so even though it hadn't killed him so far? No answer -
There is only one answer - that is to demand and tell our horse feed suppliers that we as consumers want separate facilities.
It does not matter if the horse is worth $100 or $100K - I will not play the hit and miss with my animals when I as a consumer can make an informed decision. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | Just a fyi again because there are so many pages - Kent Feeds (Blue Seal, Sentinel) all safe! Fantastic grain along with RG!! |
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| Triple crown told me they send samples out for testing on each batch. I wonder if we could request to see the results from each batch? But knowing most peofit companies they would only publish the ones that are negative, even if they had a few test positive. Persuasive statistics. |
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Location: Here | 3canstorun - 2015-02-11 12:43 PM Another person I know had a conversation with an ADM representative. He assured her that all of this was being blown out of proportion by FB and web pages...................................
They still don't get it. Her response to him was - if you knew that you were feeding your kid posion, would you continue to do so even though it hadn't killed him so far? No answer -
There is only one answer - that is to demand and tell our horse feed suppliers that we as consumers want separate facilities.
It does not matter if the horse is worth $100 or $100K - I will not play the hit and miss with my animals when I as a consumer can make an informed decision.
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Poor Cracker Girl
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | OK I started a list - please edit me as there is a lot of info on this thread and I'm likely to get my wires crossed 
Ionophore Free
Seminole
Blue Bonnet
Renew Gold
Kent Feeds (Blue Seal, Sentinel)
Big V
Woodys
Buckeye
Standlee
Manna Pro
Ametza
Medicated feed made in a separate facility/production line
Total Equine
Tribute
Kalmbach
MFA
Purina
Location-dependent
Cargill/Nutrena/Triple Crown/Southern States
Free mills: Seguin, TX (81), OKC, Alabama, Kentucky, Byhalia, MS
Not free: Merced, CA, Sterling, CO, Stockton, CA, Casa Grande, AZ
Valdosta?
Not Ionophore-Free
Producers Coop
ADM
Hubbard?
Thomas Moore
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| I just looked at BLUE BONNET. THere is one store that carries it all the way out here in CA. Store is only 20 miles from my house but second ingredient is CORN. Shoot! I might need to go renew gold route, its readily available here. Its everywhere cheap actually. lol I had an issue with it few years ago with different horses. Might be worth a second look. |
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The Advice Guru
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| TrackinBubba - 2015-02-11 1:26 PM
OK I started a list - please edit me as there is a lot of info on this thread and I'm likely to get my wires crossed Ionophore FreeSeminole Blue Bonnet Renew Gold Kent Feeds (Blue Seal, Sentinel ) Big V Woodys Buckeye Standlee Manna Pro Ametza Medicated feed made in a separate facility/production lineTotal Equine Tribute Kalmbach MFA Purina "Most" Mills Ionophore FreeCargill/Nutrena/Triple Crown/Southern States Free mills: Seguin, TX (81 ), OKC, Alabama, Kentucky, Byhalia, MS Not free: Merced, CA, Sterling, CO, Stockton, CA, Casa Grande, AZ Valdosta? Not Ionophore-FreeProducers Coop ADM Hubbard? Thomas Moore
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